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[Wickerman1972]

I think that IT, if true, will be completely awesome. But I think there needs to be some added gameplay in the DLC for it to work as well as possible. I'd like a scenario where if you chose synthesis or control perhaps you fight your squadmates, or maybe even they'd have to go up against Shepard and Harbinger at the same time (Heck, maybe even one of your sqaudmates, like Garrus, could be the character you control for a time), and after you're defeated they work to un-indoctrinate you, maybe with a lengthy dialog scene, and perhaps during that dialog your team could explain to you why everything you thought happened on the Citadel with the God-child doesn't make sense. And if you picked destroy that part could be skipped and you fight Harbinger. Well, I think something like that would be cool anyway.

I really don't buy the assertion that IT can't be right because Bioware isn't smart enough to come up with it. C'mon, it isn't space magic. Twist endings have been a staple of entertainment since forever. Bioware is just as capable as anyone.

I've heard that something to do with indoctrination was always considered but that they settled on something to do with dark energy. But that ending leaked so they scrapped it. If IT is true it could be that the DLC coming months later to conclude it might be because they ran out of time. They were going to do the dark energy thing but then had to switch course... perhaps too late. Whatever their rationale was I fail to see any reason to remain angry about it if the DLC turns out to be good... because it's free.

Modifié par Wickerman1972, 11 mai 2012 - 08:40 .

[CrazyBirdman]

If the IT would be true I probably would never play the end game of ME3 again. While I respect the people who made all those connections I won't accept it. The thing is as long as everybody has his own head canon everyone can interpret the ending so that that person can actually like it. That is why I am a little bit afraid of the Extended Cut, if everything is clear but it is bad nobody even has the chance to be happy with the ending.

[JBONE27]

OdanUrr wrote...

JBONE27 wrote...

Synthetic life is just that, "Synthetic," in other words, it can be recreated, and reprogramed.

It can be rebuilt, certainly, but you cannot re-create the same entity. You could not re-create Legion, with the same thoughts and personality, you would just be building a synthetic. Suppose Destroy didn't kill the Geth but, say, every Asari in the galaxy. Could you "rebuild" the Asari? With some DNA and the rights tools, sure. Does that mean you can re-create Liara? No, you could probably create a perfect physical copy of her through cloning but this Liara 2.0 would be completely different. In essence, you could re-create the biological species, but it would be a different civilization altogether.

You're comparing apples to oranges.  The difference is the software.  The DNA of a species is its hardware, it controls how they look, how much memory they have,etc, in much the same way that in a computer the harddrive and casing is the hardware.  Memories and connection to them, which is not controled by DNA (well not entirely) probably cannot be rewritten and cannot be saved to something else in case the hardware gets destroyed, whereas synthetic software is code.  Code can easliy be rewriten and saved to alternate locations.

Modifié par JBONE27, 11 mai 2012 - 09:05 .

[OdanUrr]

JBONE27 wrote...

Machines run on both hardware and software.

Everyone runs on hardware and software, only of a different kind.

[Wickerman1972]

CrazyBirdman wrote...

If the IT would be true I probably would never play the end game of ME3 again. While I respect the people who made all those connections I won't accept it. The thing is as long as everybody has his own head canon everyone can interpret the ending so that that person can actually like it. That is why I am a little bit afraid of the Extended Cut, if everything is clear but it is bad nobody even has the chance to be happy with the ending.

Well, this kind of viewpoint is a little baffling to me. But to each his own I suppose. Trick endings have been around forever and often they are cool. The ending of The Sixth Sense, for example, is largely what made the movie good. IT being true would be the same sort of thing, the only big difference being that first you're given clues and then confirmation comes a few months later. Sometimes I wonder if some of the people who say IT being accurate would dissapoint them (Not necassarily talking about you. Mean in general) feel the way they do simply because they chose the option to be indoctrinated. If that's the case for anyone that's not a good reason to dislike it... it's actually a great example of why it's so brilliant!

Modifié par Wickerman1972, 11 mai 2012 - 09:33 .

[JBONE27]

OdanUrr wrote...

JBONE27 wrote...

Machines run on both hardware and software.

Everyone runs on hardware and software, only of a different kind.

Please read my full post before you respond.

[OdanUrr]

JBONE27 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

JBONE27 wrote...

Machines run on both hardware and software.

Everyone runs on hardware and software, only of a different kind.

Please read my full post before you respond.

Well, you just changed it. How can you expect me to respond accurately to a post you edit after I reply?

[JBONE27]

OdanUrr wrote...

JBONE27 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

JBONE27 wrote...

Machines run on both hardware and software.

Everyone runs on hardware and software, only of a different kind.

Please read my full post before you respond.

Well, you just changed it. How can you expect me to respond accurately to a post you edit after I reply?

I honestly didn't mean to post it... that was more a rough draft than anything.

[Kabl0wzasan]

@ Repearized Miranda

Well I've said my peace in the matter.  I see your opinion and respect it, my opinion is not going to change. 

@ elecmanexe001

Already discussed it in my earlier post reguarding IT for anything else please check out: www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/ and or www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Kabl0wzasan, 14 mai 2012 - 03:58 .

[Repearized Miranda]

Kabl0wzasan wrote...

@ Repearized Miranda

Well I've said my peace in the matter.  I see your opinion and respect it, my opinion is not going to change.

 

That's fine. I wasn't trying to sway you. However, there's a verb in that sentence that seems to be lacking for folks who are against it.

Of all the Pro-IT threads/replies I've seen, none of them appear to be argumentative. However, it's the anti-IT ones, that are saying: "Sit down and shut up!"

I've also seen where IT is being forced down people throats. And while I don't disagree with the threads getting out of hand, it's no worse, than the "I hate the endings" or some likewise remarks towards the creators or what have you.

IOW, there's not alot of respect shown from either side no matter what the issue is, but it is what it is, I guess.

Modifié par Repearized Miranda, 14 mai 2012 - 04:05 .

[CARL_DF90]

Touchdown all the way. It would go a long way to explain the garbage we were left with.

[rexfoulk]

Mass effect 3 is the only one of all my rpg's I played once and then put down. Now that I have heard about the indoctrination theory (two days ago) I have trouble falling asleep and I am about ready to play through it again. I really hope this is true. It would be the greatest trick a video game has ever pulled off. This thing wouldn't be a touchdown, it would be a freaking hat trick in soccer. Having to possibly pay for the actual ending (which is bs honestly) would be worth it considering the actual mind f*ck they put us all through. They broke the 4th wall spectacularly and leaving us to freak out about it over the months wad genius.

Now on the other hand if this isn't the ending they better come up with something just as good or I'll never buy a new beware game ever. I'll wait till I can get much cheaper used (I already haven't bought Kingdoms of Amulur specifically because of this pseudo boycott).

[KillTheLastRomantic]

In comparison to the other alternative it is genius, but still leaves no actual resolution to any of the characters or plot. Still, at this point I would prefer IT confirmed in Extended Cut with a paid expansion to follow rather than "No, really. That is genuinely the ending. Sorry."