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What is best Weapon for Geth engineers in Gold?


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mekabar77 wrote...

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I use the GPSMG, fast reload and nice when you spam overload.

Really? You know every time you use overload your ROF windup gets reset? The Geth SMG is probably the worst weapon to use when spamming powers.

I would take the Claymore or GPS depening on wether you plan on speccing Hunter mode or not.


Yes I know my ROF windup gets reset but trust me, spam chain overload + GPSMG headshots is pretty nice. Btw, I'm power specialised. Well... If I'm doing so wrong I dunno how I easily get high scores (especially with a full heal turret).

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Ciam wrote...

Yes I know my ROF windup gets reset but trust me, spam chain overload + GPSMG headshots is pretty nice. Btw, I'm power specialised. Well... If I'm doing so wrong I dunno how I easily get high scores (especially with a full heal turret).

I did not doubt that you are doing good, but I can assure you it's not because of your choice of weapon. ;)

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GPR... because it's made by Geth, for Geth.

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I've gimped my GE into a kind of Geth Heavy Soldier - no Overload on it so I don't really need to worry about cooldowns. I don't think Hunter Mode is affected by cooldown so you can sort of toggle it; switch it on to look for targets, run that way and chuck a flamer turret ahead of you.

If the enemy is few or fairly weak, leave Hunter Mode on and let them get distracted by the turret while you GPS them to smithereerns.

If there's a whole mob of them or something that might screw you up (Geth Rocket Troopers for instance) switch Hunter Mode off for the extra shielding and again, while they're distracted by your turret GPS them to smithereens (though no having hunter mode on will reduce your weapon damage).

If you start to take fire just chuck out a new turret and it'll quickly replenish your shields.

I've got a GPSMG as secondary with extra ammo; if there's a whole mob of low level stuff you can just hold the trigger down and aim at heads while they're being cooked by your turret.

Is this an optimal teamplay build - probably not - but it IS versatile and for a Geth, quite tanky.

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mekabar77 wrote...

Ciam wrote...

Yes I know my ROF windup gets reset but trust me, spam chain overload + GPSMG headshots is pretty nice. Btw, I'm power specialised. Well... If I'm doing so wrong I dunno how I easily get high scores (especially with a full heal turret).

I did not doubt that you are doing good, but I can assure you it's not because of your choice of weapon. ;)


I insist to say my disagrement, GPSM is really underastimated.
Headshot ennemies and spam overload + ur turret firing, u will get a stun lock.
I enjoy my choice of weapon and easily get 20 more headshots.
I dunno, maybe u r doing wrong with it or u just dont like it, a weapon isn't basically good or bad, it's more the use of it. This gun gives me all I want, accuracy to headshot, stunlocks by high fire rate and fast reload.

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WizeMan305 wrote...

Has anybody really used the falcon with great results? Just curious to know I was thinking of running my Engineer since my Falcon has become higher leveled over alot of my other rares.


Falcon with disruptor or incendiary ammo owns on any class with overload or energy drain, it kind of requires you to host the lobby or be on a good connection though. If you're host I'd say it's a toss up between the GPS and the falcon for best engineer weapon, except vs reapers were the falcon kind of fails a bit vs all the armor.

The only problem if you are using a falcon engineer are heavy armored units. Everything else doesn't stand a chance.

The falcon is also great on the Justicar, drell adept, geth infiltrator and even the human vanguard. It's one of the best weapons for a lot of classes on gold as it allows you to easily deal with enemies like phantoms and hunters even if you don't have good powers for killing them, becuase you can stagger/stunlock them in place. That's part of the reason why the GPS is so good too.

Video example of falcon engineer owning on gold:
www.youtube.com/watch

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Ciam wrote...
I insist to say my disagrement, GPSM is really underastimated.
Headshot ennemies and spam overload + ur turret firing, u will get a stun lock.
I enjoy my choice of weapon and easily get 20 more headshots.
I dunno, maybe u r doing wrong with it or u just dont like it, a weapon isn't basically good or bad, it's more the use of it. This gun gives me all I want, accuracy to headshot, stunlocks by high fire rate and fast reload.

I don't know which difficulty you are talking, for instance the Pheaston is a really great weapon on bronze and silver, but it's poop on gold. The same goes for the GSM by my experience, it's damage just doesn't cut in on gold even when headshotting, even less when spamming powers at minimum CD. A Carnifex is a whole differnt story, still gives you 200% CD, and overload doesn't interfere much with its ROF.

I actually have seen quite a few GEs's that had very high scores on gold, which is pretty remarkable seeing that it's supposed to be a support class. Most of them were using a GPS, but I suppose that's because few people figured out how broken Claymore w/ Hunter Mode is.

Modifié par mekabar77, 09 mai 2012 - 11:42 .


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mekabar77 wrote...

Ciam wrote...
I insist to say my disagrement, GPSM is really underastimated.
Headshot ennemies and spam overload + ur turret firing, u will get a stun lock.
I enjoy my choice of weapon and easily get 20 more headshots.
I dunno, maybe u r doing wrong with it or u just dont like it, a weapon isn't basically good or bad, it's more the use of it. This gun gives me all I want, accuracy to headshot, stunlocks by high fire rate and fast reload.

I don't know which difficulty you are talking, for instance the Pheaston is a really great weapon on bronze and silver, but it's poop on gold. The same goes for the GSM by my experience, it's damage just doesn't cut in on gold even when headshotting, even less when spamming powers at minimum CD. A Carnifex is a whole differnt story, still gives you 200% CD, and overload doesn't interfere much with its ROF.

I actually have seen quite a few GEs's that had very high scores on gold, which is pretty remarkable seeing that it's supposed to be a support class. Most of them were using a GPS, but I suppose that's because few people figured out how broken Claymore w/ Hunter Mode is.


GE > GPSMG > Gold > already made 130000+ personal exp

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Phalanx isn't a bad choice either. Especially for being so light, too.

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The GPR outclasses the GPSMG in every way and even that sucks. Yeah I can pull top scores on Gold with a GPSMG too, and have, but there are better weapons out there. It only becomes a good weapon once its rate of fire accelerates to a good speed, which gets interrupted every time you cast Overload, as has been stated. People can make the Eagle work too; doesn't mean it's an optimal weapon. Please nobody listen to his poor recommendation.

Geth Engineers excel against shields as is, and therefore do not need rapid-fire weaponry.

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I usually use the Carnifex/Paladin and the GPSMG.

I will have to try out the GPS on this class sometime.

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No Snakes Alive wrote...

The GPR outclasses the GPSMG in every way and even that sucks. Yeah I can pull top scores on Gold with a GPSMG too, and have, but there are better weapons out there. It only becomes a good weapon once its rate of fire accelerates to a good speed, which gets interrupted every time you cast Overload, as has been stated. People can make the Eagle work too; doesn't mean it's an optimal weapon. Please nobody listen to his poor recommendation.

Geth Engineers excel against shields as is, and therefore do not need rapid-fire weaponry.


Still mad? Gosh!

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Ciam wrote...

No Snakes Alive wrote...

The GPR outclasses the GPSMG in every way and even that sucks. Yeah I can pull top scores on Gold with a GPSMG too, and have, but there are better weapons out there. It only becomes a good weapon once its rate of fire accelerates to a good speed, which gets interrupted every time you cast Overload, as has been stated. People can make the Eagle work too; doesn't mean it's an optimal weapon. Please nobody listen to his poor recommendation.

Geth Engineers excel against shields as is, and therefore do not need rapid-fire weaponry.


Still mad? Gosh!


Still bad?

Didn't even realize it was you. Should have known, though; who else would give such terrible advice? Lmao.

P.S. That's your defense of your weapon choice? Can we consider that conceding the argument?

Modifié par No Snakes Alive, 09 mai 2012 - 12:25 .


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MolaXXL wrote...

I also use GPSMG and it works pretty good

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

GPS and GPSMG or GPR....i play the Geth engineer as support, so i dont expect to get lot of kills but ill take care of the fodder and send a turret to help your shields

dday3six wrote...

Depends on how you want to play it. If you want to spam Tech Bursts with Disruptor Ammo and Chain Overload a fast spray weapon like the Geth Pulse Rifle, Geth Plasma SMG or even the Tempest work well. Crowd Control weapons like the Falcon, Scorpion or Striker can also be used in the same fashion. If you prefer to single out one target at a time with your weapon the Geth Plasma Shotgun, Carnifex, Paladin or Manits X with Extended Barrel and Armor Piercing all do well.

nuculerman wrote...

Anything with a low weight is fine. You should equip the GPSMG no matter what you choose though, since ULM actually work with it and it's therefore almost a free weapon (X adds 2-3% cooldown) that does decent damage in a Geth's hands. It's also killer fun with disruptor ammo.

SilentCO1 wrote...

Geth SMG our Eagle. Consisting you have Hunter mode specced for weapons.

SGC Reaper SV wrote...

I usually use the Carnifex/Paladin and the GPSMG.

I will have to try out the GPS on this class sometime.


Seems many ppl thinks like me, u should read more before to talk...

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Phalanx or Carnifex (with armor piercing and extended barrel) + Tempest. I like to keep my cooldowns low so I can drop offensive turrets behind an enemy to create crossfire while being able spam overload.

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Ciam wrote...

MolaXXL wrote...

I also use GPSMG and it works pretty good

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

GPS and GPSMG or GPR....i play the Geth engineer as support, so i dont expect to get lot of kills but ill take care of the fodder and send a turret to help your shields

dday3six wrote...

Depends on how you want to play it. If you want to spam Tech Bursts with Disruptor Ammo and Chain Overload a fast spray weapon like the Geth Pulse Rifle, Geth Plasma SMG or even the Tempest work well. Crowd Control weapons like the Falcon, Scorpion or Striker can also be used in the same fashion. If you prefer to single out one target at a time with your weapon the Geth Plasma Shotgun, Carnifex, Paladin or Manits X with Extended Barrel and Armor Piercing all do well.

nuculerman wrote...

Anything with a low weight is fine. You should equip the GPSMG no matter what you choose though, since ULM actually work with it and it's therefore almost a free weapon (X adds 2-3% cooldown) that does decent damage in a Geth's hands. It's also killer fun with disruptor ammo.

SilentCO1 wrote...

Geth SMG our Eagle. Consisting you have Hunter mode specced for weapons.

SGC Reaper SV wrote...

I usually use the Carnifex/Paladin and the GPSMG.

I will have to try out the GPS on this class sometime.


Seems many ppl thinks like me, u should read more before to talk...


I read all that already. That's your argument? That other people are using it and it's working for them? Good job proving my point.

Again, does the Geth Engineer not obliterate shields and barriers with the strongest Overload in the game?

Automatic weaponry is strong against shields and barriers. The game tells you that in the hint-boxes even. You should pay attention when you play. You'll do better and stop embarrassing yourself.

So again, you can take a weapon that dominates against armor on a class that already destroys shields and barriers on its own or you can remain ignorant. I think I can guess which you'll choose!

If you feel like actually addressing the incredibly relevant points I made about which weapons are BEST for this class, not which ones work okay for people who are clueless, then go ahead. Otherwise stop trolling.

And I can find even more people essentially telling you your weapon choice sucks if you really think that makes for a logical basis for any argument (pro tip: it doesn't).

Modifié par No Snakes Alive, 09 mai 2012 - 12:59 .


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No Snakes Alive wrote...

I must to troll this guy to prove to myself I dont fail... fck I even fail at it...



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OP, I highly recommend you pay close attention to those who are treating this thread as it should be, and stating what they feel the BEST weapon for this class is with supporting logic, rather than those simply treating it as another "What Weapon Do You Use?" thread and just posting personal preferences with which they've found mild success.

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I just run a Avenger X + GPSMG VII and have maximum cooldown reduction, spamming my Overload and Heal turret forever. Doing weapon damage is overrated XD

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No Snakes Alive wrote...

OP, I highly recommend you pay close attention to those who are treating this thread as it should be, and stating what they feel the BEST weapon for this class is with supporting logic, rather than those simply treating it as another "What Weapon Do You Use?" thread and just posting personal preferences with which they've found mild success.


Personal preferences usually lead the player to becoming better.  GPS might not suit every player out there, so technically it may not be the "best" for a particular individual.  It's like asking a pro-CS player what sensitivity they use, just because they use that doesn't mean you'll be good like them, they got that sensitivity through personal preference.  I've always used the GPS, so that's why I choose it with my Geth Engineer.    

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Really Ciam? You base you claims purely on opinions and ignore the fact, which is easily proven by math, that the GSM is highly inferior to pretty much every other weapon in the game.

You even fail to deliver evidence that it's viable at all. I still would really like to see a video of you making 130K with it.

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Ciam wrote...

No Snakes Alive wrote...

I must to troll this guy to prove to myself I dont fail... fck I even fail at it...



I brought up a very valid point about the class being discussed excelling against shields and barriers and requiring assistance from a good weapon against armor, and this is your argument back? Reported.

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spiros9110 wrote...

No Snakes Alive wrote...

OP, I highly recommend you pay close attention to those who are treating this thread as it should be, and stating what they feel the BEST weapon for this class is with supporting logic, rather than those simply treating it as another "What Weapon Do You Use?" thread and just posting personal preferences with which they've found mild success.


Personal preferences usually lead the player to becoming better.  GPS might not suit every player out there, so technically it may not be the "best" for a particular individual.  It's like asking a pro-CS player what sensitivity they use, just because they use that doesn't mean you'll be good like them, they got that sensitivity through personal preference.  I've always used the GPS, so that's why I choose it with my Geth Engineer.    


That gun is easy-mode for any class on any difficulty under any circumstance though, really, so it's never a bad choice. You can do work against Armor with it so it's a better choce than a GPSMG by far.

Is it probably the best choice for the class in general? No, because it reduces your cooldowns by a lot. It could be the eat choice for you personally though. To an extent the best gun for a class is always going to be the best gun for YOU on that class, and personal preference will always be a factor, but there are simply some guns that are better suited for the class than others, preferences aside, for aforementioned reasons.

If you're taking an automatic weapon that sucks against armor you could be doing better. Period.

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Graal. It's easy to get targets immobilized with overload and Graal is great at placing headshots.

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1. Mattock X - AP/EB
2. Phalanx X - AP/EB
3. GPS X - EB/Ammo
4. Carnifex X - AP/EB

i primarily use mattock/phalanx. i'll switch to GPS for a while if i start to stack Shotgun amp