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[Cptnodegard]

I think the reason why people hate it is that they take full auto as a challenge. If you fire it in burst you essentially have a headshot machine. Throw some nice headshot and sniper bonuses on that and you really have something. Not that I use it though, I prefer the Widow simply because it's more fun to occasionally take down two mobs with one shot than the rapid fire of the indra or the valiant ever provides.

[spirosz]

People are hating on that great weapon? News to me.

[Relix28]

Are we talking about efficiency here, or something else?

Because, after seeing this video I would hardly call the Indra an efficient weapon (to put it very mildly).


Oh, and please stop with the "I solo'd gold with this weapon, so that makes it good" argument. A skilled player can solo gold with the N7 Eagle, but that wouldn't make it suck any less. All that proves, is that the player is skilled and most likely a hipster.

[Atheosis]

Stardusk wrote...

CarparkC wrote...

ViciousDesires wrote...

Seriously, have u even tried that?

Yes.

ViciousDesires wrote...

Indra will cut down atlas as a geth infiltrator, this is WAY faster then what I could do with my Black Widow.

That doesn't say much. Especially because you admit you don't do well with Black Widow. Regardless, how long does it take you to kill Atlas with Indra on Gold? I can reliably take down Atlas in about 20-24 seconds with my Black Widow II, and that's not optimal time at all.

ViciousDesires wrote...

I think i need to look up on a video making software to demonstrate the perks of Indra, hopefully not humiliating myself in the process.

I wouldn't mind seeing it actually. If you are on PC you can just use Fraps, provided your PC is good enough. It is still not going to make Indra look better than Black Widow. I'm a bit of a fan of math and all the data speaks against it. You can't make a low DPS weapon into a high DPS one no matter how good you are.

Stardusk wrote...

Maybe it is just me but the thing appears to be the best auto weapon in the game.

Hurricane and even Revenant make it seem worthless, specifically on Turians.

Revenant is not as good over all, in terms of reload time, recoil, accuracy, etc.

Yet a Revenant X has over twice the DPS of an Indra I, and can be set up to be relatively accurate at long range with certain classes.

[corvette3]

Relix28 wrote...

Are we talking about efficiency here, or something else?

Because, after seeing this video I would hardly call the Indra an efficient weapon (to put it very mildly).


Oh, and please stop with the "I solo'd gold with this weapon, so that makes it good" argument. A skilled player can solo gold with the N7 Eagle, but that wouldn't make it suck any less. All that proves, is that the player is skilled and most likely a hipster.

True enough, but if a gun truly did "suck" (i believe few of them really do) i really doubt they could have had its help in their victory, an adept would probably just ignore it and use Warp-throw on everything.

[Stardusk]

Cptnodegard wrote...

I think the reason why people hate it is that they take full auto as a challenge. If you fire it in burst you essentially have a headshot machine. Throw some nice headshot and sniper bonuses on that and you really have something. Not that I use it though, I prefer the Widow simply because it's more fun to occasionally take down two mobs with one shot than the rapid fire of the indra or the valiant ever provides.

You mean after you have stripped the shields? because the Widow cannot one shot anything with protection.

[PrebuiltTub]

corvette3 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Tried it with the GPR. Doesn't work, even on GI.

Planning on making a vid for the GPR Geth Engineer...with the right specs, that thing is great!

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Even i barely believe that... oh well at least it "hoses them down" rather nicely.

GPR does do workwith geth eng. With the right build, youll get the hunter mode damage buff, plus you have the benefit of being able to reliably pour just about every bullet into the enemies' heads. I throw on the AP mod for a bit of a buff against the armored foes, plus the ext barrel mod. so my build is 6,6,6,5,3, everything specced for power damage(which affects turret dmg) and speed. between the GPR doing constant headshots plus ovrld, shields and barriers melt away, then pop the flamethrowing turret out to the armored bosses to expedite their demise. If you want to be an absolute powerhoouse, slap disruptor rounds on the GPR and you be able to set off a tech burst about every 2 seconds, 3 at the most. GPR gets hate, but at X it keeps youat 200% rchrg, and only does 25 DPS less than the Phaeston, but that doesnt matter cus 90% or your shots will be headsots. Its a bit weak on armor, granted, but because of its accuracy you can forgoe other more popular AR mods for the AP one.

[DiebytheSword]

I tend to think of the Indra as a scoped light machine gun rather than a sniper rifle, and its probably better to compare it to the revenant.

[Stardusk]

PrebuiltTub wrote...

corvette3 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Tried it with the GPR. Doesn't work, even on GI.

Planning on making a vid for the GPR Geth Engineer...with the right specs, that thing is great!

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Even i barely believe that... oh well at least it "hoses them down" rather nicely.

GPR does do workwith geth eng. With the right build, youll get the hunter mode damage buff, plus you have the benefit of being able to reliably pour just about every bullet into the enemies' heads. I throw on the AP mod for a bit of a buff against the armored foes, plus the ext barrel mod. so my build is 6,6,6,5,3, everything specced for power damage(which affects turret dmg) and speed. between the GPR doing constant headshots plus ovrld, shields and barriers melt away, then pop the flamethrowing turret out to the armored bosses to expedite their demise. If you want to be an absolute powerhoouse, slap disruptor rounds on the GPR and you be able to set off a tech burst about every 2 seconds, 3 at the most. GPR gets hate, but at X it keeps youat 200% rchrg, and only does 25 DPS less than the Phaeston, but that doesnt matter cus 90% or your shots will be headsots. Its a bit weak on armor, granted, but because of its accuracy you can forgoe other more popular AR mods for the AP one.

I spec my Geth engi for max damage hunter mode 25% bonus, and 15% ROF. Then maxed geth weapons and weapon damage, that means the GPR gets a 57%+ damage bonus. Makes it very good.

[ViciousDesires]

CarparkC wrote...

ViciousDesires wrote...

Seriously, have u even tried that?

Yes.

ViciousDesires wrote...

Indra will cut down atlas as a geth infiltrator, this is WAY faster then what I could do with my Black Widow.

That doesn't say much. Especially because you admit you don't do well with Black Widow. Regardless, how long does it take you to kill Atlas with Indra on Gold? I can reliably take down Atlas in about 20-24 seconds with my Black Widow II, and that's not optimal time at all.

ViciousDesires wrote...

I think i need to look up on a video making software to demonstrate the perks of Indra, hopefully not humiliating myself in the process.

I wouldn't mind seeing it actually. If you are on PC you can just use Fraps, provided your PC is good enough. It is still not going to make Indra look better than Black Widow. I'm a bit of a fan of math and all the data speaks against it. You can't make a low DPS weapon into a high DPS one no matter how good you are.

Stardusk wrote...

Maybe it is just me but the thing appears to be the best auto weapon in the game.

Hurricane and even Revenant make it seem worthless, specifically on Turians.

Taking out atlas - 10 - 15 seconds MAX, basically 3 cloak cycle, only hard part is shield, once that's out, 25 bullet will take care of a full bar armoured Atlas.

Uploaded a video, dosen't show killing atlas, just a phantom - can you kill a Phantom that fast with a Black Widow? I sure as hell know I can kill a phantom in gold with 2 headshot easily, but how consistent is your headshot, every single time? even on close quarter? . I'm playing at work so don't expect too much of a effort/attention to making this video to prove a pointless fact.

I admit i didn't do well with Black Widow because the Indra tops my black widow time to take down enemy. Oh, did I forget to mention it's Black Widow X, not just I or II?

Basically i use Indra as an assault rifle, prox mines every time + full auto, it works well in helping out your team, it's like they got a soldier - except with a higher burst damage.

Indra and Black Widow is two different gun. Maybe when i get back home i'll search how to get a video recording software for more then 30seconds to show how the whole match goes, I can tell you it's a good weapon - just not refined.

edit: video still uploading 
 
2gb for a 30 second clip? damn

Modifié par ViciousDesires, 08 mai 2012 - 03:36 .

[Stardusk]

Air Quotes wrote...

I've just played with Xcalizor, and he was using a Turian Soldier with Indra and equipment on Glacier vs Cerberus. And while he was doing amazing (much better than a most of us could ever do) you could see that it just doesn't cut it.

He switched to Asari Vanguard with a Claymore next and wiped everything with ease.

LOL, Asari>Stasis>Claymore

You really can't compare the two.

It's like saying a Krogan Soldier solos gold just like an Infiltrator but only if he uses the right weapons.

[Dreadcall]

corvette3 wrote...

In the case of the indra its 12 more damage per shot around 25% 45 more spare rounds and 75% less weight

more like ~43% less weight (1.75 ->1.0) .

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@Stardusk: The indra is almost a better avenger with a built in scope. It does more damage, is quite a bit more accurate but othervise is very similar.
It's definitely viable on gold with the right setup, even takes down armored targets nicely on a GI with equipement, but there are weapons that are just a lot better.

The upside of it on a GI is that it's a weapon you can kill easily with when you feel too lazy to actually aim:) Just cloak, put the crosshair anywhere on the enemy hold the button and it will die. You might have to do it twice on a phantom, and bosses may take 4-5 clips but who cares.

It can of course kill faster with headshots but if you are actually aiming the valiant and black widow are just better:)

Modifié par Dreadcall, 08 mai 2012 - 03:56 .

[Wytchblades]

Relix28 wrote...

Are we talking about efficiency here, or something else?

Because, after seeing this video I would hardly call the Indra an efficient weapon (to put it very mildly).


Oh, and please stop with the "I solo'd gold with this weapon, so that makes it good" argument. A skilled player can solo gold with the N7 Eagle, but that wouldn't make it suck any less. All that proves, is that the player is skilled and most likely a hipster.

Looks fine but I guess if you strip the protection it goes down fast.. There are a few races who could make this shine  I would think.

[Grimy Bunyip]

there's nothing an indra can do that another gun can't do better.
most notably the raptor., which deals 1.63x more damage per shot, with only a marginally slower firing rate and is not fully auto

[AreleX]

a lot of your builds and ideas and statements strike me as being contrarian simply for the sake of it. while it's cool that you like to do things differently, this does not make whatever you're doing amazing or really better than anything else (or even good), and with the way you phrase things, that's how it comes off.

[Stardusk]

AreleX wrote...

a lot of your builds and ideas and statements strike me as being contrarian simply for the sake of it. while it's cool that you like to do things differently, this does not make whatever you're doing amazing or really better than anything else (or even good), and with the way you phrase things, that's how it comes off.

Never said I was amazing but it is true I like doing nonstandard builds.

[His Name was HYR!!]

I agree, this thing is hella fun to use on Krogan Sentinel as a machine-gun, its not far behind Raptor X anyway either.

[Indenter]

Overload.

Modifié par Indenter, 08 mai 2012 - 06:02 .

[Stardusk]

Indenter wrote...

Overload.

Yeah, but it is also good on the Turian Soldier, no Overload. Nothing wrong with combining powers and weapons.

[PluralAces]

what is that like an automatic sniper rifle??

[Stardusk]

PluralAces wrote...

what is that like an automatic sniper rifle??

More of an AR tbh.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Wait wait wait, wait. Your video is rendering and it's going to take hours to upload? Then what the hell is this that's been up for over the past hour?

www.youtube.com/watch

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Stardusk wrote...

So I was getting tired of all the people slamming on the Indra. It is a fantastic weapon in the hands of a Turian or Geth and very good in others' as well. I just did an experiment, spur of the moment solo Turian Sentinel run, instant killed on wave 8 but the video will prove that the Indra is a beast....still I am sure people will keep on complaining about it.

www.youtube.com/watch

As I'd thought, the Indra is as awesom in MP as it is in SP.

Too bad I haven't unlocked it yet. Got a damn Eagle II instead.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 08 mai 2012 - 06:08 .