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Lord Phoebus wrote...

Branka


OMG, yes, how could I forget her!

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TastyLaksa

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Naxarrath wrote...

I would have to say Howe, really disliked him after playing human origin.

Sten is not baddest but he went rather high on my list, he murdered a family of farmers and dont really feel sad about it, this becomes clear when you find his sword, apparently that was all he really cared about, what about that family he murdered because of the same sword? Who cares he got his sword back right.


Not to mention his spastic answers to all your questions.

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TastyLaksa

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fkirenicus wrote...

Lord Phoebus wrote...

Branka


OMG, yes, how could I forget her!


Am i the only person who keeps giggling when they say "Branka" and i'm thinking of street fighter?

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Varenus Luckmann

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Behlen or Howe, definately.

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1. Howe
2. Harrowmont
3.Bhelen(in a good way)
4.Vaughan
5. Every single Dwarf Noble
6. Jowan, Isolde and Anora

Edit: I'd say Branka and Uldred aswell, however they were deluded and demented nutjobs, one being possessed by a demon and the other had her brain turn to mush by the anvil..

Modifié par interesting03, 10 décembre 2009 - 11:00 .


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Vaughn, definitely Vaughn. I am hoping there is a fade sequence in the sequel so I can kill him again.

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Anora doesn't belong on any list unless Branka is also listed.



Seriously. They aren't even on the same level at all.



Being a power hungry wench like Anora is one thing.



Branka is a power hungry insane wench who sold her entire noble house to the Darkspawn just to have more bodies to try and circumvent some crappy traps.



I know Anora has a lot of haters but i'm starting to think it's some kind of weird jealousy. Branka is seriously just... damn... takes the cake of female dirtbags in the game.

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Pigeons.


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Lotion Soronarr

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Howe, Vaughn and Branka..
Oh, And I jsut figured why Loghained flet so familiar:
http://tvtropes.org/...n/GeneralRipper

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Branka, no question in my mind.

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How is Duncan a douche? I don't think he's incredible or anything but he's just a duty bound geezer with a pretty cool fake beard.

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TastyLaksa wrote...

Am i the only person who keeps giggling when they say "Branka" and i'm thinking of street fighter?


The character in Street Fighter was Blanka so perhaps yes, you might be the only one making such association.

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kevinwastaken wrote...

How is Duncan a douche? I don't think he's incredible or anything but he's just a duty bound geezer with a pretty cool fake beard.


I think it's because he conscripts you even if you say you don't want to be a Gray Warden.  My Human Noble tried that; she didn't want to be a Warden, she wanted to go hunt down Howe, kill him, rescue her brother, and come home again.  But noooooo...  Of course, in the end she became Princess Consort and the hero of Ferelden, so she forgave Duncan.  Even if she does only have another 28 years to live or so.

Vaughn is my choice for biggest dirtbag, followed closely by Loghain with Howe hot on his heels. 

Vaughn for using the elven alienage like a grocery store for rape victims.  "I'll take one of those, that one over there, two of these, and I guess the bride."

Loghain for killing anyone who died at Ostagar after he pulled his troops out (some would have died anyway, but with no way to know who would have died and who would have survived, he gets all the blame) including Duncan and Cailan; for selling people into slavery; for poisoning Arl Eamon; for hiring assassins because he was too much of a **** to come after me himself.

Howe for taking everything, killing everyone, and still thinking he deserved more.  The man literally had no soul, just a vast sucking void.

But Loghain before Howe because without Loghain's backing and support, Howe would never have been able to do a fraction of what he did.  Howe had limited power until he became Loghain's right-hand man.  All the people he slaughtered, all the horrible things he arranged, only came to fruition because Loghain gave him the nod.  So the buck stops on Loghain's head... which I have removed from his shoulders every time I got to Landsmeet.

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Eonassassin wrote...

cglasgow wrote...

I'm amazed nobody nominated Flemeth.

As annoying as Morrigan is sometimes (even to me), getting to really know her reveals just how monstrously abusive her upbringing was. Now multiply that by hundreds of children down the centuries. Now add in that she did all that to dispossess the souls and steal the bodies of all those children, just to keep her ass alive longer. Now add in that she's an abomination, and all the legends of her monstrous behavior and depravity on down the centuries...

IMO, Flemeth is the single most evil being we encounter during the entire game, including the archdemon. At least the archdemon did not voluntarily go out and seek its state change into what it became.


The reason Flemeth isn't on most peoples list is because she hasn't done anything to the player directly, everything we know about her is through Morrigan or legends..... and who knows if she is even the same flemeth or not. 
Bottomline she hasn't done anything bad to us so shes not on the list, in fact she saved us from certain death (even if it was for her own selfish reasons) 

PS: according to Morrigan Flemeth's parenting was better than other normal peoples parenting as it made her (morrigan) "stronger"


Exactly, the above accusations of Flemeth are all going on heresay, tales and legends. I am guessing some people have either just gone to kill her outright and didn't bother paying attention to anything she said in the first encounter or wasn't paying attention at all to the things she said.

One of her responses to you stating that Morrigan knows how she extends her lifespan is "Yes she does, the question is, do you?"

As selfish as her reasons for saving you maybe, the fact is, she did save you and whilst you may believe hers and morrigans intentions regarding the ritual maybe bad, the fact is, they are once again ensuring your survival. If they were really the evil you think that they are, surely they would ensure you are dead and thus can't tell anyone how you survived the ritual?

As much as I agree with some of the others with regards the definition of dirtbag ruling some of the 'evil' characters out, I still think Howe falls into the dirtbag category as he is someone whom has wormed his way to where he has got and takes great delight in twisting the knife in his victims. Shoe will be well and truly on the other foot everytime I play as a Human Noble. Going to constantly take great delight in pounding him into dust.

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Fergus.



That jerk spent the war boozing and whoring while the rest of our family were being murdered!



Then he thinks I'm just gonna let him be the new Arl of Highever?



Well, he's gonna be REAL disappointed!


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This man was engineered to be the biggest, most despicable entity this side of the fade.
But honestly? I think the biggest dirtbag... hang with me on this one... is... THE MAKER!
An anthropomorphic deity so whimsical and despondent, that regardless of the actual truth, he falls well short of being worthy of worship.
Never mind that he is allegedly frolicking with one of his own creations, it is his incompetent tinkering with creation that gave birth to spirits, and since he messed THEM up, he came up with mortals (by the way, though the chantry would have you believe the maker is a he, is there really any proof of this??).
Then as a result of the actions of overambitious mortals (which is the VERY reason he created humans after spirits: emotion, ambition etc) nearing his "perfect" city, he flips the switch and leaves US to deal with HIS mess, but then is hypocritical enough to justify his seduction of an ALREADY married mortal. Honestly the Maker is the single cause for all harm in Thedas, including all the aforementioned dirtbags (howe,branka, vaugh) since... we were made in his image lol. If anything, all the beauty and brilliance that exists in Thedas, does so in SPITE of him.Image IPB

Modifié par Noxxxious, 10 décembre 2009 - 06:50 .


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Branka and Anora joint top for me

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th3warr1or

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Howe. The biggest motherf*cking scumbag.

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The Shaperate. He tells me he's going to give me a gift, but he is lying and he just stands there smiling and acting so solemn. What a dick!

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th3warr1or wrote...

Howe. The biggest motherf*cking scumbag.


how could i forget that man I hate him too branka second anora can go third he is top of my list that backstabbing son of a 

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The Warden hands down... especially when being a jerk to Alistair.

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Howe, easily.



At least Branka was insane. Howe has no excuse. I only wish there was an execution cutscene for him. I'd watch it again too.



Betrayal is in the Ninth Circle of Hell for a reason.

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Staylost wrote...

The Shaperate. He tells me he's going to give me a gift, but he is lying and he just stands there smiling and acting so solemn. What a dick!


Omg yes, Shaperate's Blessing. He rubs it in your face and even updates your codex for the 2h sword.


Also, I wish we got to really kill Howe.. Howe just died of his wounds after cursing the player.. We should have done something really satisfying like

Howe: Maker spit on you..
PC: "You first" *stabs/decapitate*

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Lotion Soronarr

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Good idea fora mod



*add it to his to-do list.

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Biggest D-bags have to be that family of robbed elves in lothering. Stinking lying elves. They were probably never robbed and were just taking the opportunity to get free stuff. Can never trust those elves, especially when they claim to have owned anything.....since they excel at poverty.