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[americanLegion1]

In Mass Effect 2, there's a dead female Turian. It's the mission where you first get to Mordin and you go into an apartment where there's human looters. Look carefully, it's a dead female. Female Krogan are just male Krogan with a sort of mask that covers everything except a line on the face. They added male Quarian in the same places female Quarian is already at; but yes, there needs to be more of everything.

[LiarasShield]

lionjesus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm just saying despite gender equality you screaming lore to automaticlly add a decent dlc for some of us female players who wouldn't mind playing as a female krogan seems down right silly another one is that not only this but we have people ****ing about more humans being added but you know what the vorcha working with the alliance in mp is already breaking lore and youll use the lore card to stop any dlc wether interesting or not from ever being made because it doesn't follow your taste of lore

okay , the vorcha being in mp doesnt break lore. In sp , sheprd can unite the mercs under aria as a war assett...bam, makes sense some of those merc vorcha are in n7 forces in mp...if it makes sense with lore, ya can have it fem...so have turians,drell,batarians whatever...its just salarians and krogans that dont make sense with lore...

Still doesn't work because  the vorcha as a whole are not friendly towards other races and we don't even know how many or if their is enough of them in the red suns the vorcha have never really allied themselves with thee alliance before and they mostly still don't know they only really serve aria not thee alliance

[NinthGeorgesw]

LiarasShield wrote...

lionjesus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm just saying despite gender equality you screaming lore to automaticlly add a decent dlc for some of us female players who wouldn't mind playing as a female krogan seems down right silly another one is that not only this but we have people ****ing about more humans being added but you know what the vorcha working with the alliance in mp is already breaking lore and youll use the lore card to stop any dlc wether interesting or not from ever being made because it doesn't follow your taste of lore

okay , the vorcha being in mp doesnt break lore. In sp , sheprd can unite the mercs under aria as a war assett...bam, makes sense some of those merc vorcha are in n7 forces in mp...if it makes sense with lore, ya can have it fem...so have turians,drell,batarians whatever...its just salarians and krogans that dont make sense with lore...

Still doesn't work because  the vorcha as a whole are not friendly towards other races and we don't even know how many or if their is enough of them in the red suns the vorcha have never really allied themselves with thee alliance before and they mostly still don't know they only really serve aria not thee alliance

But when Aria tells the Blood Pack (not the Red Suns, there is no merc group called the Red Suns) to help the Alliance, they will work with the Alliance.

[LiarasShield]

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

lionjesus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm just saying despite gender equality you screaming lore to automaticlly add a decent dlc for some of us female players who wouldn't mind playing as a female krogan seems down right silly another one is that not only this but we have people ****ing about more humans being added but you know what the vorcha working with the alliance in mp is already breaking lore and youll use the lore card to stop any dlc wether interesting or not from ever being made because it doesn't follow your taste of lore

okay , the vorcha being in mp doesnt break lore. In sp , sheprd can unite the mercs under aria as a war assett...bam, makes sense some of those merc vorcha are in n7 forces in mp...if it makes sense with lore, ya can have it fem...so have turians,drell,batarians whatever...its just salarians and krogans that dont make sense with lore...

Still doesn't work because  the vorcha as a whole are not friendly towards other races and we don't even know how many or if their is enough of them in the red suns the vorcha have never really allied themselves with thee alliance before and they mostly still don't know they only really serve aria not thee alliance

But when Aria tells the Blood Pack (not the Red Suns, there is no merc group called the Red Suns) to help the Alliance, they will work with the Alliance.

But how many vorcha are in the blood pack and do you think it would really be enough for everyone across the galaxy to be them and it still doesn't make sense since the vorcha are extremely hostile and have never been friendly before up to this point

[lionjesus]

LiarasShield wrote...



Still doesn't work because  the vorcha as a whole are not friendly towards other races and we don't even know how many or if their is enough of them in the red suns the vorcha have never really allied themselves with thee alliance before and they mostly still don't know they only really serve aria not thee alliance

the vorcha are dumb..they do what theyre told basically..theyre afraid of aria..aria is working with the alliance and shepard...so vorcha work with alliance...and one of the largest merc groups in the universe....pretty sure theres enough vorcha that it makes sense for mp...

[Vespervin]

The bulk of the Blood Pack is made up of Vorcha, with Aria leading them. They'll do what they're ordered too.

About the ex-Cerberus characters. I believe at least one of them should be female. Probably the Adept.

Modifié par Vespervin, 29 mai 2012 - 02:30 .

[americanLegion1]

LiarasShield wrote...

Still doesn't work because  the vorcha as a whole are not friendly towards other races and we don't even know how many or if their is enough of them in the red suns the vorcha have never really allied themselves with thee alliance before and they mostly still don't know they only really serve aria not thee alliance

Vorcha are still prevelant in the campaign overall and there was plenty of them in Mass Effect 2. Female Geth is just silly because Geth have no gender, they're robots. Prothean would make sense providing that more pods were found and relating to a previous post, it doesn't just have to be Cerberus that finds them, it could be colonists from other races as well. Ha! It'll be hilarious to see the previous Shadow Broker race included since the Salarian were "considering uplift" and this is a war that would require more than just a couple races.

[LiarasShield]

well I don't see lore being taking account into horde mode where you fight the same enemies a billion times over again if were going to make this work lore wise not after completeing a map or defeating a enemy just automaticlly move down the chain or unlock another place or new objectives after defeating said enemies instead of them being recylced a thousand times

[lionjesus]

LiarasShield wrote...

well I don't see lore being taking account into horde mode where you fight the same enemies a billion times over again if were going to make this work lore wise not after completeing a map or defeating a enemy just automaticlly move down the chain or unlock another place or new objectives after defeating said enemies instead of them being recylced a thousand times

 

yes , because giant armies would never try to reclaim a base....<_<

[LiarasShield]

americanLegion1 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Still doesn't work because  the vorcha as a whole are not friendly towards other races and we don't even know how many or if their is enough of them in the red suns the vorcha have never really allied themselves with thee alliance before and they mostly still don't know they only really serve aria not thee alliance

Vorcha are still prevelant in the campaign overall and there was plenty of them in Mass Effect 2. Female Geth is just silly because Geth have no gender, they're robots. Prothean would make sense providing that more pods were found and relating to a previous post, it doesn't just have to be Cerberus that finds them, it could be colonists from other races as well. Ha! It'll be hilarious to see the previous Shadow Broker race included since the Salarian were "considering uplift" and this is a war that would require more than just a couple races.

yeah but javik is the only survivor and their may be other pods but it goes against how javiks is seeking revenge for his people that is how the lore people will counter your suggestion

[LiarasShield]

lionjesus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

well I don't see lore being taking account into horde mode where you fight the same enemies a billion times over again if were going to make this work lore wise not after completeing a map or defeating a enemy just automaticlly move down the chain or unlock another place or new objectives after defeating said enemies instead of them being recylced a thousand times

 

yes , because giant armies would never try to reclaim a base....<_<

Yeah giant armies will just keep refighting in the same damn place and yeah the enemy they'll never run out of forces or you'll never get any new objectives while fighting said enemies or doing different things with these enemies so no lore doesn't work here to much unless the multiplayer mode as a whole was changed to something else instead of horde mode

[ThirdChild ZKI]

LiarasShield wrote...

You want to know what breaks ****ing lore The vorcha have never fought for thee alliance they have only been in merc bands or causing chaos where ever they are seen including on Omega they always been scum bags or hateful towards other races and The vorcha never really allied themselves to the alliance so why the hell would they do that in mp cause once again

Lore doesn't always need to follow mp espically in HORDE MODE their is nothing loreish about fighting the same enemies on the same maps several times over again

Exactly! Not to mention the Batarians (however few are left) generally don't seem to like. . . well, anybody.

Multiplayer has a bit of a tie in with the story, and that's cool. But as a standalone part of the game, they do need to consider what people want in order to keep it fresh and entertaining. If people want to choose the gender of their character - IN A GAME BUILT ON CHOICES - why should this be the one area where they don't have choices?

[Cyonan]

You're just being silly now LiarasShield.

The pro-lore people aren't saying nothing can change or be added in the name of lore.

Vorcha mercs are a thing in the lore. Vorcha mercs that are being told to go fight for the alliance by Aria are a thing in the lore. They may or may not be limited number but game mechanics trump having to say that only 1000 people can play the race and everybody else is SOL.

Game mechanics are allowed to trump lore because they are game mechanics.

Unfortunately for you, adding a Krogan female is not a game mechanic.

[lionjesus]

LiarasShield wrote...

Yeah giant armies will just keep refighting in the same damn place and yeah the enemy they'll never run out of forces or you'll never get any new objectives while fighting said enemies or doing different things with these enemies so no lore doesn't work here to much unless the multiplayer mode as a whole was changed to something else instead of horde mode

yeah, they would...if a place is valuable, you're not just going to peace out and be like "YOU WIN THIS TIME ALLIANCE!!!" while shaking your fist...you have an army...you try to take it back...so yes lore makes sense...you're just attacking everything else because female krogans dont make sense , which is a bummer,but oh well....deal wit it 

[LiarasShield]

ThirdChild ZKI wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

You want to know what breaks ****ing lore The vorcha have never fought for thee alliance they have only been in merc bands or causing chaos where ever they are seen including on Omega they always been scum bags or hateful towards other races and The vorcha never really allied themselves to the alliance so why the hell would they do that in mp cause once again

Lore doesn't always need to follow mp espically in HORDE MODE their is nothing loreish about fighting the same enemies on the same maps several times over again

Exactly! Not to mention the Batarians (however few are left) generally don't seem to like. . . well, anybody.

Multiplayer has a bit of a tie in with the story, and that's cool. But as a standalone part of the game, they do need to consider what people want in order to keep it fresh and entertaining. If people want to choose the gender of their character - IN A GAME BUILT ON CHOICES - why should this be the one area where they don't have choices?

Yup and the way the game mode for multiplayer is it can't really support or make lore make sense during playing it

[LiarasShield]

lionjesus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Yeah giant armies will just keep refighting in the same damn place and yeah the enemy they'll never run out of forces or you'll never get any new objectives while fighting said enemies or doing different things with these enemies so no lore doesn't work here to much unless the multiplayer mode as a whole was changed to something else instead of horde mode

yeah, they would...if a place is valuable, you're not just going to peace out and be like "YOU WIN THIS TIME ALLIANCE!!!" while shaking your fist...you have an army...you try to take it back...so yes lore makes sense...you're just attacking everything else because female krogans dont make sense , which is a bummer,but oh well....deal wit it 

Again all I can do is just facepalm and sigh at you Fighting the same enemies a billion times over when their forces are not infinite wether for thee alliance or the reapers, cerberus and geth and having pretty much nothing ever change from said encounters or how said encounters truely change or go towards the war effort it defeats any purpose of this supposedly being for lore

[lionjesus]

LiarasShield wrote...

Again all I can do is just facepalm and sigh at you Fighting the same enemies a billion times over when their forces are not infinite wether for thee alliance or the reapers, cerberus and geth and having pretty much nothing ever change from said encounters or how said encounters truely change or go towards the war effort it defeats any purpose of this supposedly being for lore

they may not be infinite but its not really dosclosed either how expansive their armies are...as for how that is for lore....its defending bases for the alliance so they can keep control of the area ...it makes perfect sense to the lore. also this whole thread was about females in mp till you took it off course attacking all other things..so i will bring it back....fem krogans and salarians...no...they dont make sense...but im definitely up for fem drell, turians , heck , even batarians or vorcha...because those make sense. <3

[LiarasShield]

your whole logic about it being for lore when none of these random dog battles change anything or how we keep repeating the same battles over again with the same enemies and having pretty much nothing ever change from these encounters and once again the alliance and thee other factions are not infinite so they'd would run out eventually horde mode does not work if you want to keep label sticking lore with it


And it just goes back to gender equality and the choice of playing so eh whatever *Shrugs

Modifié par LiarasShield, 29 mai 2012 - 02:53 .

[LiarasShield]

Or better yet lets agree to disagree I don't see lore effecting a mode like horde mode in multiplayer and I don't mind female krogans or other females being added to some of the other races because I am one so eh everybody has their own cup of tea my is just a bit different then yours

[lionjesus]

LiarasShield wrote...

your whole logic about it being for lore when none of these random dog battles change anything or how we keep repeating the same battles over again with the same enemies and having pretty much nothing ever change from these encounters and once again the alliance and thee other factions are not infinite so they'd would run out eventually horde mode does not work if you want to keep label sticking lore with it


And it just goes back to gender equality and the choice of playing so eh whatever *Shrugs

it has nothing to do with gender equality, it has to do with making sense..Same reason there will prolly never be playable elcor or hanar along with your fem krogan and salarian....it just doesnt make sense.

[LiarasShield]

lionjesus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

your whole logic about it being for lore when none of these random dog battles change anything or how we keep repeating the same battles over again with the same enemies and having pretty much nothing ever change from these encounters and once again the alliance and thee other factions are not infinite so they'd would run out eventually horde mode does not work if you want to keep label sticking lore with it


And it just goes back to gender equality and the choice of playing so eh whatever *Shrugs

it has nothing to do with gender equality, it has to do with making sense..Same reason there will prolly never be playable elcor or hanar along with your fem krogan and salarian....it just doesnt make sense.

Well elcor and hanar were never apart of the war effort they were for comedic effect just like the volus

[LiarasShield]

you and me won't see eye to eye on this so it is better to go our own ways lol

[lionjesus]

LiarasShield wrote...

Well elcor and hanar were never apart of the war effort they were for comedic effect just like the volus

That's not the point though...the point is it doesn't make sense for them to be in multiplayer battle.

[Cyonan]

LiarasShield wrote...
Well elcor and hanar were never apart of the war effort they were for comedic effect just like the volus

and neither were Krogan females.

Although I should point out that Elcor were used in the war effort. They basically strapped big guns to their backs and used targeting VIs to help them aim and shoot.

[LiarasShield]

lionjesus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Well elcor and hanar were never apart of the war effort they were for comedic effect just like the volus

That's not the point though...the point is it doesn't make sense for them to be in multiplayer battle.

The whole point is that they were never really apart of the war or fighting the reapers so of course they'd never be apart of the war but the krogans, turians and drell were and I don't mind see both genders from either one being shown in multiplayer but obviously you do hence why we keep going back fourth like so lol