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[Cyne]

I found a recent article regarding DA3, check it out:

Is Dragon Age III The Game EA Just Delayed?
It's time to solve a mystery, or at least come up with a viable
theory. Yesterday, executives mega-publisher Electronic Arts announces a
bunch of financial numbers. They also say that they've delayed a "key
game" from fiscal year 13 to fiscal year 14, which, for those who prefer
to speak English, means they've delayed a "key game" from coming out by
March 31, 2013 to some time after.
Which game could it be?
Dragon Age III is the favorite candidate of one Michael
Pachter, financial analyst who is sometimes right, sometimes a master of
research and math and sometimes—let's be honest—just educated-guessin'.
His theory has a delicious wrinkle in it, to mix metaphors. The Dragon Age III delay would be happening so that BioWare developers working on the game could help out on BioWare's Star Wars: The Old Republic.
In a note to financial-minded folks this morning, Pachter explains his theory:
"When we spoke with the [EA] CEO, he added the color that the game
was expected to slip because the team had been pulled away to work on
another important project. While we don't know what the game is, the
only game that makes sense is Dragon Age 3, as it is developed by BioWare, the same studio that produced the Star Wars MMO. It seems obvious to us that the BioWare team responsible for Dragon Age 3
was asked to place development of that game on hold and work on Star
Wars, to ensure that the latter game launched before the holidays."
We've got a second fact in there indicating that the team of the mystery delayed game was pulled off to help another game.
Who has a better solution to this mystery?
The best devil's-advocate alternate theory I could cook up for this was a possible Dead Space 3 team being yanked to help with the new Medal of Honor, but that doesn't seem as likely. Or maybe Pachter's only half-right. Maybe DAIII is the delayed game, but was delayed so the devs could help with Mass Effect 3. At least in that theory, we'd be talking about one BioWare Montreal Edmonton team helping another, rather than an Edmonton Dragon Age team pitching in on a BioWare Austin Star Wars project.
A BioWare rep did not return a request for comment by press time. I'll update this story if and when I hear back.
For the record, BioWare was trying to hire for Dragon Age III as far back as last May and has publicly discussed the future of the Dragon Age series with fans as recently as April's PAX East expo.
Considering that one of the chief complaints fans had about Dragon Age II was that it felt rushed and was full of recycled content, maybe a delay wouldn't be the worst thing.

http://kotaku.com/5908522/is-dragon-age-iii-the-game-ea-just-delayed

[Welsh Inferno]

Just rumours isn't it?

I should be happy that the game gets more development time, which would be great. But the fact that they are pulling devs AWAY from DA3 to help swtor or ME3 is worse...

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 08 mai 2012 - 05:29 .

[BubbleDncr]

I hope not. But I also have my doubts on his theory, as well.

SWTOR is made entirely by Bioware Austin. Dragon Age/Mass Effect are made by Edmonton. As best I understand things, they don't share staff between the two.

[brushyourteeth]

This would be amazing news. Especially if the DA team won't be too spread out over other projects to make good use of the extra time it would give them.

I'm definitely not a "do things this way or I won't buy your game" type of person, but I have wondered what the higher-ups would think if a bunch of us banned together to let them know that if the project was finished in less than three years we wouldn't be interested in buying.

I want more DA like, yesterday as much as the next person. But I also love the franchise and our team of devs and I'd do pretty much whatever I reasonably could to help make sure that they're given the time they need to make something they can be really, really proud of.

Thanks for the article share!

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 08 mai 2012 - 05:41 .

[AkiKishi]

It's a risky time for long projects because of the next generation straddle. Unless they bite the bullet and make it for the next generation of consoles.
Worst thing that could happen is that DA3 comes along when everyone has traded in consoles and is looking forward rather than back.
You have maybe a year during which transistion takes place.

[Reznore57]

I'm not sure it's good news (if it's even true..) DA team is given more time so they can work on another game...Sounds more like DA isn't a priority .
Well , they do what they want , what matters is DA 3 is well done ...

[Nerdage]

Michael Pachter, financial analyst who is sometimes right

Best bit.

It is pretty much guesswork though, not exactly gospel, even if it makes sense from this side of the fence. Too bad if it means DA3 is a year or more away, a year with no DA2 content to fill the gap.. An expansion would sure hit the spot right about now..

[deuce985]

BubbleDncr wrote...

I hope not. But I also have my doubts on his theory, as well.

SWTOR is made entirely by Bioware Austin. Dragon Age/Mass Effect are made by Edmonton. As best I understand things, they don't share staff between the two.

Bioware still shares devs across their projects. They have 5 studios. Bioware Mythic, Bioware Austin, Bioware San Francisco, Bioware Edmonton(main team) and Bioware Montreal(satellite team to Edmonton).

Mythic and Austin do SWTOR. But it's known other studios did share some devs too. This isn't a big deal, IMO. Bioware will share devs until DA3 goes into full development swing. They likely have stages where the team gets bigger and bigger. Considering ME3 was just wrapped up...they probably have some manpower they can spare. I doubt we'll see another ME game this gen anyway.

Modifié par deuce985, 08 mai 2012 - 06:02 .

[rapscallioness]

Hmm, but yet this really doesn't tell me much. Yet.

It could be that one game C&C? that they're slowing down on...hard to say really.

[deuce985]

rapscallioness wrote...

Hmm, but yet this really doesn't tell me much. Yet.

It could be that one game C&C? that they're slowing down on...hard to say really.

I think the Montreal team is working on that now. San Francisco team does social gaming like Dragon Age Legends.

I just saw a news article that SWTOR went from 1.7 million subs in February to 1.3 million right now. That would make sense they need more manpower on the project to churn content out faster. They do have two devs already working on it...not sure how much more manpower they'd need though. They could hire more but considering EA isn't doing good financially right now and SWTOR is losing subs...probably not a smart thing to do. So yea, you're going to stretch some projects thin for now I guess. Luckily, ME3 team isn't doing much but DLC right now.

Thing that has me a little worried though is Mike said he wants DA3 to be a little more open. So it's obvious they're going to need more manpower for a bigger game. And we have no idea if DA2 lost manpower because of SWTOR to begin with.

[goofyomnivore]

I don't think Dragon Age 3 will be pushed back unless EA knows(they do) for sure the next gen consoles aren't coming out till Christmas 2014 instead of 2013. They will want a healthy amount of time to maximize DLC sales.

Post March 31st 2013 release would give them roughly 8 months of DLC time to work with if the new consoles are released that holiday season. I don't think they are going to be released in 2013 since Xbox said they will not speak of their next console at this year's E3. However Lionhead Studios reported they've already gotten their hands on the next gen console hardware and are developing games for it.

My guess is they pushed back a Mass Effect related game(full blown MP?), due to the EC knocking their DLC schedule out of whack.

Modifié par strive, 08 mai 2012 - 06:20 .

[brushyourteeth]

I'd be fine with waiting till next-gen consoles come out.

[rapscallioness]

Tell ya the truth, I do wish they had made a SWTOR for an SP campaign. I would have bought that so fast. In fact, I wanted to get it...then I found out it was for PC/MP.

I was disappoint.

The thing about this article, though is that EA puts out quite a few games other than BW. All those sports games and what not. That are very "key" in EA's opinion.

It could be anything. All we have are the musings of this EA lackey Pachter....who keeps telling everyone to buy EA stock; they're a good investment, while all they're doing is losing money.

So, I don't really trust his musings anyway.

Idk, we'll see. I seem to be saying that alot lately. I wouldn't mind if DA3 was "delayed" to make sure they did it right. But if it is put on the back burner so they can work on some mmo.......oooh...that would make me simmer.

[rapscallioness]

Edit: double post madness...I'm having connectivity issues with this forum. Is it just me?

I can't even...idk. Navigating is like walking through mud....I wonder if my PC is jacked up..I...dammit

Modifié par rapscallioness, 08 mai 2012 - 06:49 .

[deuce985]

I didn't realize Bioware had another studio...Victory Games? How is Bioware getting so big?

Geez. They shouldn't have any problems with manpower these days...

In any event, I hope they take their time. Part of me wants to see DA3 on new consoles to see what they can do with their tech. And HOPEFULLY Bioware builds their own engine next-gen.

[rapscallioness]

sweet jesus in the morning. sorry guys for all the posts

Modifié par rapscallioness, 08 mai 2012 - 06:52 .

[rapscallioness]

When is all this next gen stuff supposed to be out anyway? I keep hearing about it, but it seems to be over years I've been hearing it's coming.

[Face of Evil]

We were expecting DA3 to come out before March? I'm hoping for a 2013 release and even I think that's unrealistic.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 08 mai 2012 - 07:06 .

[Dakota Strider]

When I first started reading, I thought that EA had come to their senses and was going to allow the Bioware DA dev team to have the time and space to make DA3 right. Then as I proceeded deeper into the story, it no longer seemed such a positivie outcome. It may actually end up being even less manhours being given to DA3 overall, when this other project is finished. That would be a disaster.

IF what is being speculated at is true, the best we can hope for, is that a skeleton crew will be left to work on DA3, and will be able to build the framework as well as work out all possible storylines/plotpaths. I would guess that the writers of DA3 would not be taken away. Perhaps whatever will be left with Dragon Age, will be enough to build the foundation. If they gain more time, that would be a good thing. But if DA3 is left hanging completely, we can anticipate another rush job, once they finally decide to start working on it again.

Modifié par Dakota Strider, 08 mai 2012 - 07:29 .

[Atakuma]

Pachter is rarely ever right about anything. His opinion is only useful to glorified gossip columns like Kotaku.

[Zexiv]

It's speculation but in general if it's been put on the back burner cause something else has been given a higher priority I'd not look at it as a positive event. I'm used to moving from project to project for SQA due to a shifts in priority and in general the time isn't recovered. For the two companies I've worked with if you're doing maintenance releases due to hardware obsolescence or a software release for a new device the old project is not being worked on until the higher priority project is completed.

Unfortunately if that was the case with DA3 I'd tend to think the schedule was being pushed out because it was waiting for resources to get back to it and that wouldn't yield a result of additonal time to work on DA3. More often than not being pulled and then coming back to a project results in a tighter schedule once back to the first project.  The other thing I'd wonder, if it was DA3 that slipped, is how commited they are to having a DA4?

Take it easy

Modifié par Zexiv, 08 mai 2012 - 08:13 .

[deuce985]

Avejajed wrote...

Pulling people off DA3 to work on SWTOR wouldn't give them more time to work on DA3. I don't know how you guys figured the math on that one. If they are working on SWTOR, they aren't doing anything on DA3.

Because they're not pulling the entire Dragon Age team off the project...

Development teams aren't huge early on. They get bigger as the process goes along. The core team will probably remain the same, regardless who gets pulled to SWTOR, if that is even happening. I seriously doubt they'd just decide we're going to take the entire Dragon Age team over to SWTOR development. Take Mike Laidlaw, David Gaider and all the project leads over to SWTOR. Especially considering Bioware has 5-6 studios now. Two of them work exclusively on SWTOR.

They might pull a few programmers or something off the team. Maybe guys that aren't as needed until later in the process. For all we know, it's still in conceptual stages...

[astreqwerty]

if it is da3 im happy