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[incinerator950]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

OP: You do realise that people tend to buy the game before they play it? How can sales figures possibly reflect the customers' dissatisfaction? It just proves that many people liked ME2 well enough to buy ME3 on launch and that EA advertising worked.

The eight hundred thousand Pre-Orders on one console alone was evident enough.

[M0keys]

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

don't lose your mind.

that revenue is based on expectations from mass effect 1 and 2. it's not based on the quality of ME3.

if ME4 comes out, its profits are going to definitely end up below ME3.

[balance5050]

M0keys wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

don't lose your mind.

that revenue is based on expectations from mass effect 1 and 2. it's not based on the quality of ME3.

if ME4 comes out, its profits are going to definitely end up below ME3.

Maybe, but the EC might help somewhat. it COULD be awesome.

[Ridwan]

balance5050 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

The article didn't mention if it was 200 million dollar in profit. You have to consider development costs (voice acting included) and shipment.

Regardless, the game won't have long legs. Pre orders and initial sales is the only profit they made out of Mass Effect 3.

By the way, folks that are happy about the 200 million dollar. That number won't get much bigger any time soon. A game having long legs, will always > a game that sells strong to begin with, before everyone figures out that they've been had, by the useless critics, who are in the pocket of the publishers.

Every week for ME3 is still higher than for ME2
(XBOX360)

ME3 sales for week 8 - 54,072

ME2 sales for week 8 - 16,825 

And? That's absolutely laughable. Like I said, they made their profit the first two weeks. The rest is miniscule. ME3 legs are incredible short. Let's take a competitor like Skyrim.

ME3 for 360
1st week
1,371,048
4th week
100,758
6th week
63,427

Now let's look at Skyrim, also on 360.

1st week.
1,859,285
4th week
287,214
6th week
540,418

Skyrim actually saw an increase in sales, that's a sign of strong legs and positive consumer feedback (word to mouth).
ME3 probably won't ever break 4,5 million in total. Certainly not in this year.
Skyrim however has broken 11,7 million so far.
Who says you need CoD like games to sell?


Oh and just for fun, the ultimate game with strong legs. New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

1st week
1,344,201
4th week
1,445,384
6th week
1,810,368
10th week
347,898
128th week
29,860


Now consider how much it cost to develop New Super Mario Bros. Wii and how much it costs to develop ME3.

Modifié par M25105, 08 mai 2012 - 10:14 .

[Sohlito]

balance5050 wrote...

Back in middle school, kids seemed to dislike a lot more than they like. It's like a peer pressure thing or wanting to fit in. It's easier to say you DON'T like something without being made fun of than to say you DO like sometihng.

Kinda like how it's easier to destroy than to create, or how it's easier to criticise than correct.

You do realize it works the same if you reverse it right?

[M0keys]

The Mario franchise has nigh-infinite legs with pretty much everything.

there's a huge "Grandma" factor. think about all the "old fashioned" folks who call video games "nintendo," and buy nintendo and mario things for all their grandchildren for Presents Day.

well.. also that mario is of generally high quality and wii's are cheap and easy to buy/get. but that's a given..

[Ridwan]

M0keys wrote...

The Mario franchise has nigh-infinite legs with pretty much everything.

there's a huge "Grandma" factor. think about all the "old fashioned" folks who call video games "nintendo," and buy nintendo and mario things for all their grandchildren for Presents Day.

well.. also that mario is of generally high quality and wii's are cheap and easy to buy/get. but that's a given..

Nintendo and Mario are the true masters in consumer trust. Though I'm pretty sure the old generation got pretty upset at Mario going 3D. Hell both Galaxy games combined still can't touch the numbers of New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

There's is something special about 2D sidescrollers.

[Aurica]

Paxcorpus wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

I'd post a reply to this, if I wasn't spending so much time playing multiplayer and buying packs with BioWare points.

What do you think you're proving by announcing you're wasting money on something so substanceless, other than the fact that you're irresponsible with your finances?

This is something hipster-gamers need to get through their thick skulls. There are much worse things you could waste your money on. If someone wants to fund developers and unlock cool things in a videogame, which they enjoy and will gain more enjoyment from, shut up and mind your business.

And this is why we gamers are our worst enemies.  Its because we tell them its okay to do this to us that they keep doing this.   As I have stated in other post.   If MP proves to be lucrative enough.   Then why put in substantially much more effort and resources to create an epic awesome Single Player  RPG?   What EA is going to do is to take re-allocate resources from making new single player DLC, Expansion packs or sequels and just focus on Multiplayer / Micro-transactions.  Or they will simply move people from single player projects into their other projects.

The awesome epic RPG series that we know and love will be a done deal and there will be no future epic awesome RPG titles coming from BW.  I know how this sounds like DOOM & GLOOM but I seen enough of what EA does to game studios and it does not look optimistic at all.

[shepdog77]

The Angry One wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Sorry, not everyone enjoys mediocre games with terrible endings. Especially if said games had the potential to be great, nay, epic.

Mediocre games with terrible endings?  You're in the wrong forum.  This is the right forum for you.

Troll confirmed, get outta here.

If anyone's a troll, it's you.  You LIVE on these forums bashing anything positive about ME3.  We get it, the ending wasn't great and there were a few flaws in the game mechanics, but for the love of baby jesus, just STFU.

[ShepnTali]

Yes, they could make all kinds of money in the future. The game is literally changing, attracting a new crowd, pushing out the old. If they are to be praised, then Activision deserves a big wet one. Make that money, honey.

[legion999]

shepdog77 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Sorry, not everyone enjoys mediocre games with terrible endings. Especially if said games had the potential to be great, nay, epic.

Mediocre games with terrible endings?  You're in the wrong forum.  This is the right forum for you.

Troll confirmed, get outta here.

If anyone's a troll, it's you.  You LIVE on these forums bashing anything positive about ME3.  We get it, the ending wasn't great and there were a few flaws in the game mechanics, but for the love of baby jesus, just STFU.

Jesus guy calm down.

[Torrible]

shepdog77 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Sorry, not everyone enjoys mediocre games with terrible endings. Especially if said games had the potential to be great, nay, epic.

Mediocre games with terrible endings?  You're in the wrong forum.  This is the right forum for you.

Troll confirmed, get outta here.

If anyone's a troll, it's you.  You LIVE on these forums bashing anything positive about ME3.  We get it, the ending wasn't great and there were a few flaws in the game mechanics, but for the love of baby jesus, just STFU.

She's angry all the time. That's her secret.

[babachewie]

Paxcorpus wrote...

That's one down, who's next?

haha! this

[balance5050]

shepdog77 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Sorry, not everyone enjoys mediocre games with terrible endings. Especially if said games had the potential to be great, nay, epic.

Mediocre games with terrible endings?  You're in the wrong forum.  This is the right forum for you.

Troll confirmed, get outta here.

If anyone's a troll, it's you.  You LIVE on these forums bashing anything positive about ME3.  We get it, the ending wasn't great and there were a few flaws in the game mechanics, but for the love of baby jesus, just STFU.

I know, angry one is king troll pretty much.

[Aurica]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Games are rarely made by dedicated game makers tbh. In a team you find a considerable number of people who do not play games but are good at what they do *shrugs*

BioWare used to be a developer full of people passionate about making games for gamers. That's what it was founded for.
Now it's about meeting EA's bottom line? You think that's good progress?

Plenty of people are competent at their jobs. Casey used to be exceptional.

If you can meet at deadline,make a profit and while on budget and have substantial reviews i do not see the problem. Also they might be bias cause i enjoyed every minute of the game but aside from that yep.

Gaming companies get away with it because we as the consumers let them do so.  If enough people would pay for a shoddy product, the company CAN and WILL do their DAMNEST to cut corners.  90% of the companies including ones that I work for is all about cutting cost.  

Is ME3 a shoddy product?  No.. but its not exactly stellar by any means either.  DA2 & ME3 is only the beginning where you start to see BW's quality start to drop.   Don't even get me started on what EA did to MAXIS.

[legion999]

babachewie wrote...

Paxcorpus wrote...

That's one down, who's next?

haha! this

Really commander?

[babachewie]

M0keys wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

don't lose your mind.

that revenue is based on expectations from mass effect 1 and 2. it's not based on the quality of ME3.

if ME4 comes out, its profits are going to definitely end up below ME3.

You dont know that. 

[Goaliebot]

As others have already said, ME3's problems won't directly impact overall sales of ME3 too much - it's sales of DLC and ME4/ME-MMO/whatever that will reflect the loss of trust/fandom.

[UrdnotGrunty2]

Torrible wrote...

 Avengers made that amount in 3 days. Flop! 

Yes but Avengers had a satisfactory ending for all of Marvel's fans who loved their story.

[Aurica]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

jreezy wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

DJRackham wrote...

Exozze wrote...

I don't understand where all the hate comes from. Sure the ending was terrible, there was lack of conversation options, the auto dialouge sucked, but hey. It was still one hell of a game!

You forgot to mention the game import bug, and the removal of assets from the Character Creator making it nearly impossible to import your Sheaprd with any degree of reliability or recognizability.

They patched the import thing.

Incorrectly since people are still having problems

i didnt try the face patch yet so wich version are you talking about?

I play on the 360 and everything imported fine on the two shepards I have imported since the patch, only thing that looked different was the hair and that was only slight.

If you ACTUALLY BEEN following the thread about the face import bug.  You would know that they changed the face mesh for Female Shepards thus resulting in "issues".  So technically you can import characters but they will not look exactly as they do in ME1 & ME2.   For my mansheps, I have no issues with them.

[legion999]

UrdnotGrunty2 wrote...

Torrible wrote...

 Avengers made that amount in 3 days. Flop! 

Yes but Avengers had a satisfactory ending for all of Marvel's fans who loved their story.

And had more than 2 good parts.

[SNascimento]

Goaliebot wrote...

As others have already said, ME3's problems won't directly impact overall sales of ME3 too much - it's sales of DLC and ME4/ME-MMO/whatever that will reflect the loss of trust/fandom.

.
Just like DA2 affected ME3's sale, rights?

[legion999]

SNascimento wrote...

Goaliebot wrote...

As others have already said, ME3's problems won't directly impact overall sales of ME3 too much - it's sales of DLC and ME4/ME-MMO/whatever that will reflect the loss of trust/fandom.

.
Just like DA2 affected ME3's sale, rights?

Some gave Bioware the benefit of the doubt, some reasoned it was a different studio and some thought Bioware couldn't possibly **** up that much again.

[The Angry One]

shepdog77 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Sorry, not everyone enjoys mediocre games with terrible endings. Especially if said games had the potential to be great, nay, epic.

Mediocre games with terrible endings?  You're in the wrong forum.  This is the right forum for you.

Troll confirmed, get outta here.

If anyone's a troll, it's you.  You LIVE on these forums bashing anything positive about ME3.  We get it, the ending wasn't great and there were a few flaws in the game mechanics, but for the love of baby jesus, just STFU.

Yes, spending a little time here talking is living here. Hm.
I was going to make a longer reply, but I don't feel like humouring you today. So I'll just say one thing.

Make me.