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[Exozze]

I don't understand where all the hate comes from. Sure the ending was terrible, there was lack of conversation options, the auto dialouge sucked, but hey. It was still one hell of a game!

[PsyrenY]

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

Oh well, nice knowing you all, probably going to not bother with BSN anymore, if the game is a winner for EA, there's no point pressuring them to make changes or do anything to please fans.

You mean they don't need to make Extended Cut at all, but they're doing it anyway? And they don't care about our feedback?

Do you even see the contradiction? <_<

[Panthro90]

Not surprised. It’s not about initial sales. BioWare and EA will see the full extent of their failure to fix this down the road; DLC, DA3 pre sales (and post sales if it is not a fantastic game), other misc stuff.

I for one will not be buying any ME3 DLC if I am not satisfied with the EC, and I pretty sure I’m not going to be. I also won’t be replacing my aging TWIT hoody with an N7 hoody anytime soon.

I’m sure I’m not the only one and it will all lead to lost profit to BioWare and EA. The sad truth is, this may actually be the beginning of the end for BioWare.

[legion999]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Yes people they are actually people that love this game. But i do not see how this affects us in anyway they have made the money not us. Shall we continue with our lives and maybe have a multimillionaire company in the future?...But one thing i have to admit....Casey should be super project-director...What a guy.Non stop working wish i had his resolve, even when things are not going well

So your argument is "Casey is rich, therefore you're wrong."

My argument is Casey is a hell of a project director,
Game came on budget.
Game was released on time.
Game had substantial amount of bugs(everything has bugs in games)
And the man managed to make a profit off it.
Please tell me this man is not good at what he does?? These were probably his objectives. The ending thing you can talk to the writers but this is casey's forte'. Coming from a software developer this is impressive 

I'm sorry but the "this game has bugs but so does every other game so it's fine" arguement is crap. It should not become the norm for a game to be broken upon release or have so many laughable bugs.

[The Angry One]

tekkaman fear wrote...

Exactly, sells have nothing to do with ending outrage. Obviously people had to buy it to hate the ending.

I'd also say that bad word of mouth alone would not prevent sales of a BioWare game. Not before this.
I myself heard rumours of the ending being bad and dismissed them as exagerration. This level of fail is something that must be experienced to be believed, and that requires a sale.

[Faded-Myth]

I want the ending to be addressed, but I also want the series to do well. Seeing BioWare sink would do nothing but make Mass Effect all but disappear. Yeah, the end left a bad taste in my mouth and I think it ended on a weird, miserable note which surprised and disappointed me, but do I want the series to burn? No.

EA I couldn't care less about. BioWare, on the other hand, I'd rather see survive, do well and continue to be make good games. Which, I'll add, Mass Effect 3 for the most part is.

I'm still waiting on the EC before I make any decisions on how I feel about BioWare as a company.

[KotorEffect3]

Exozze wrote...

I don't understand where all the hate comes from. Sure the ending was terrible, there was lack of conversation options, the auto dialouge sucked, but hey. It was still one hell of a game!

Because the bsn will take any issue and blow it way out of proportion.  The only issue that isn't a minor issue or non issue is the ending and even that has still been blown way out of proportion. 

[The Angry One]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Games are rarely made by dedicated game makers tbh. In a team you find a considerable number of people who do not play games but are good at what they do *shrugs*

BioWare used to be a developer full of people passionate about making games for gamers. That's what it was founded for.
Now it's about meeting EA's bottom line? You think that's good progress?

Plenty of people are competent at their jobs. Casey used to be exceptional.

[MJF JD]

its not like bioware games ever sell 10 million copies.

[Faded-Myth]

The Angry One wrote...

tekkaman fear wrote...

Exactly, sells have nothing to do with ending outrage. Obviously people had to buy it to hate the ending.

I'd also say that bad word of mouth alone would not prevent sales of a BioWare game. Not before this.
I myself heard rumours of the ending being bad and dismissed them as exagerration. This level of fail is something that must be experienced to be believed, and that requires a sale.

I saw the rumors just a few days before launch on Facebook, and I dismissed them as just trolls. I remember thinking how totally perposterous it was that the ending could be that bad. Really wish I could say a few days later I still felt like that.

[KotorEffect3]

legion999 wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Yes people they are actually people that love this game. But i do not see how this affects us in anyway they have made the money not us. Shall we continue with our lives and maybe have a multimillionaire company in the future?...But one thing i have to admit....Casey should be super project-director...What a guy.Non stop working wish i had his resolve, even when things are not going well

So your argument is "Casey is rich, therefore you're wrong."

My argument is Casey is a hell of a project director,
Game came on budget.
Game was released on time.
Game had substantial amount of bugs(everything has bugs in games)
And the man managed to make a profit off it.
Please tell me this man is not good at what he does?? These were probably his objectives. The ending thing you can talk to the writers but this is casey's forte'. Coming from a software developer this is impressive 

I'm sorry but the "this game has bugs but so does every other game so it's fine" arguement is crap. It should not become the norm for a game to be broken upon release or have so many laughable bugs.

Game wasn't broken

[legion999]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

The thing is though games like Skyrim and COD sell 10 million copies. ME3 is small time compared to them. And don't expect the sales for ME3 to increase either at least not by a significant amount.

Apples and Oranges.  Any bioware game takes commitment to play as you will most likely have to devote 30 to 40 hours of time to a single playthrough.  CoD is based mainly on it's multiplayer, something you can pick up and do for 15 minutes and then put it down.  Skyrim has tons and tons of content but it is a game where you can just screw around if you want so how much time you devote to it is up to each individual player.  ME 3 has done well sales wise especialy in comparison to it's predecssors.

? Not sure what you mean. Yes Skyrim and COD are more pick up and play for an hour or so but so what? In the end it results in hundreds of hours being spent to play those games.

[incinerator950]

Meanwhile, EA lost 400,000 Subscribers from TOR in two months as well.

[legion999]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Yes people they are actually people that love this game. But i do not see how this affects us in anyway they have made the money not us. Shall we continue with our lives and maybe have a multimillionaire company in the future?...But one thing i have to admit....Casey should be super project-director...What a guy.Non stop working wish i had his resolve, even when things are not going well

So your argument is "Casey is rich, therefore you're wrong."

My argument is Casey is a hell of a project director,
Game came on budget.
Game was released on time.
Game had substantial amount of bugs(everything has bugs in games)
And the man managed to make a profit off it.
Please tell me this man is not good at what he does?? These were probably his objectives. The ending thing you can talk to the writers but this is casey's forte'. Coming from a software developer this is impressive 

I'm sorry but the "this game has bugs but so does every other game so it's fine" arguement is crap. It should not become the norm for a game to be broken upon release or have so many laughable bugs.

Game wasn't broken

Wasn't refering to ME3 but okay if that's your immediate thought.

Modifié par legion999, 08 mai 2012 - 07:50 .

[Faded-Myth]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Yes people they are actually people that love this game. But i do not see how this affects us in anyway they have made the money not us. Shall we continue with our lives and maybe have a multimillionaire company in the future?...But one thing i have to admit....Casey should be super project-director...What a guy.Non stop working wish i had his resolve, even when things are not going well

So your argument is "Casey is rich, therefore you're wrong."

My argument is Casey is a hell of a project director,
Game came on budget.
Game was released on time.
Game had substantial amount of bugs(everything has bugs in games)
And the man managed to make a profit off it.
Please tell me this man is not good at what he does?? These were probably his objectives. The ending thing you can talk to the writers but this is casey's forte'. Coming from a software developer this is impressive 

I'm sorry but the "this game has bugs but so does every other game so it's fine" arguement is crap. It should not become the norm for a game to be broken upon release or have so many laughable bugs.

Game wasn't broken

The game wasn't broken, but it came with more glitches and animation issues and hard locks than I've seen with any prior Mass Effect game. Or even any BioWare game. Tuchanka almost always soft locks on loading screens for me. I get hard locks on the main menu, and the character animations freak out in plenty of areas. I know it's not just my copy of the game because most of my friends encounter the same things. The lockups occur in various places for everyone but the animation glitches are generally universal.

The only real major bugs I encountered in ME2 were the occasional collision issues that caused me to get stuck in one spot, and one or two hard locks in my entire playthrough. It's not an acceptable notion that games are fine to be released in this state.

[MarchWaltz]

I gave up the whole retake thing when they announced the EC, stating no additional gameplay would be present and they want to keep the ending.

Whatever, Mass Effect is another dissapointment in my gaming histry, hard to trust bioware after this.

Long live the metal gear series. That is how you do an ending.

[Zix13]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Your attempts at goading are pitiable, kiddo.

Reported.  Please stay on topic.

Fail troll is fail. 

[The Angry One]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Games are rarely made by dedicated game makers tbh. In a team you find a considerable number of people who do not play games but are good at what they do *shrugs*

BioWare used to be a developer full of people passionate about making games for gamers. That's what it was founded for.
Now it's about meeting EA's bottom line? You think that's good progress?

Plenty of people are competent at their jobs. Casey used to be exceptional.

If you can meet at deadline,make a profit and while on budget and have substantial reviews i do not see the problem. Also they might be bias cause i enjoyed every minute of the game but aside from that yep.

If you don't see it, no wonder you enjoyed it. I hope you're happy with even less than you got now from now on. Of course, some people always are.

[Zix13]

N7L4D wrote...
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Your banner renders your comment meaningless.

[Thornne]

Casey Hudson has great project management skills, therefore ME3 was a great game.

[incinerator950]

The Angry One wrote...

tekkaman fear wrote...

Exactly, sells have nothing to do with ending outrage. Obviously people had to buy it to hate the ending.

I'd also say that bad word of mouth alone would not prevent sales of a BioWare game. Not before this.
I myself heard rumours of the ending being bad and dismissed them as exagerration. This level of fail is something that must be experienced to be believed, and that requires a sale.

Yeah.... I was there, it was hilarious to be sure.