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[Hussain_2012]

My bra loves Multiplayer games. This is the reason why he did buy this game. I suggested he wait for summer or Christmas where game prices shall go down, but he insisted to pre-order it. He never played the game expect for MP. So a RPG company shifted its scope to compete with other MP companies, I am not really surprised. I will say best luck and congratulation for what you've earned so far. But I am no longer your customer!!

[KotorEffect3]

legion999 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

The thing is though games like Skyrim and COD sell 10 million copies. ME3 is small time compared to them. And don't expect the sales for ME3 to increase either at least not by a significant amount.

Apples and Oranges.  Any bioware game takes commitment to play as you will most likely have to devote 30 to 40 hours of time to a single playthrough.  CoD is based mainly on it's multiplayer, something you can pick up and do for 15 minutes and then put it down.  Skyrim has tons and tons of content but it is a game where you can just screw around if you want so how much time you devote to it is up to each individual player.  ME 3 has done well sales wise especialy in comparison to it's predecssors.

? Not sure what you mean. Yes Skyrim and COD are more pick up and play for an hour or so but so what? In the end it results in hundreds of hours being spent to play those games.

My point is those game would be easier fo some people to get into because they don't require the same kind of time commitment that a bioware game requires.  For a bioware game to be worth playing you have to play the whole thing.  With CoD you don't even need to touch the single player campaign.  Those games appeal to a larger audience than a bioware game would because not everybody has dozens of hours they can commit to gaming.  Those games aren't necessarily better than a bioware game but they are more accessible and take less commitment.  Personaly one of the reasons why I like bioware games is because of the commitment it takes to play them.  I get invested into bioware games mentaly and emotionaly because of that commitment but I can see where bioware's style of game would limit sales in comparison.

[SoloPala]

incinerator950 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

tekkaman fear wrote...

Exactly, sells have nothing to do with ending outrage. Obviously people had to buy it to hate the ending.

I'd also say that bad word of mouth alone would not prevent sales of a BioWare game. Not before this.
I myself heard rumours of the ending being bad and dismissed them as exagerration. This level of fail is something that must be experienced to be believed, and that requires a sale.

Yeah.... I was there, it was hilarious to be sure.  

This is truth, i got it %50 off on amazon, i played the **** out of the game for a weekend and was loving it, the whole time thinking this has been pretty good so far no way its as bad as they say, then.... it ****ing happened.... and i was all 

But hey guess this puts away the myth they can't afford to fix the ending, lol.

Modifié par SoloPala, 08 mai 2012 - 08:01 .

[legion999]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

legion999 wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Yes people they are actually people that love this game. But i do not see how this affects us in anyway they have made the money not us. Shall we continue with our lives and maybe have a multimillionaire company in the future?...But one thing i have to admit....Casey should be super project-director...What a guy.Non stop working wish i had his resolve, even when things are not going well

So your argument is "Casey is rich, therefore you're wrong."

My argument is Casey is a hell of a project director,
Game came on budget.
Game was released on time.
Game had substantial amount of bugs(everything has bugs in games)
And the man managed to make a profit off it.
Please tell me this man is not good at what he does?? These were probably his objectives. The ending thing you can talk to the writers but this is casey's forte'. Coming from a software developer this is impressive 

I'm sorry but the "this game has bugs but so does every other game so it's fine" arguement is crap. It should not become the norm for a game to be broken upon release or have so many laughable bugs.

For every 1000 lines of code you write you are estimated to have 10 bugs at best and 100 or more bugs at worst.
A development Cycle has Requirements---->specifications--->--->Design--->implementation---->Verification--->maintenance.

30% of all bugs come before writing any peice of code. 70% are at the requirements-->specifications .---->Design.
This is the problem with software engineering today. NO doubt about it. Can we make a product with no bugs at all? It has been granted impossible. We have to work with time contraints ,budget and make sure everything is okay. That is why we tend to reuse material. However games are different from software. A person only uses 10% of a software product on average. With games it is  a larger percentage. Listen im not trying to argue im just trying to relate this to sftware cause it is the same thing with little or no difference *shrugs*

Yesit is almost impossible to have a bug free game. No denying that. But some of the bugs in this game (and others) should have never have been there. Case in point the face code bug which still doesn't work apparently.

[BDelacroix]

The Angry One wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Games are rarely made by dedicated game makers tbh. In a team you find a considerable number of people who do not play games but are good at what they do *shrugs*

BioWare used to be a developer full of people passionate about making games for gamers. That's what it was founded for.
Now it's about meeting EA's bottom line? You think that's good progress?

Plenty of people are competent at their jobs. Casey used to be exceptional.

When I was working at EA, the only people who didn't play games were maybe the lawyers, HR and executives and I'm not even sure that is a fact for all of the members of those groups.

[legion999]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

The thing is though games like Skyrim and COD sell 10 million copies. ME3 is small time compared to them. And don't expect the sales for ME3 to increase either at least not by a significant amount.

Apples and Oranges.  Any bioware game takes commitment to play as you will most likely have to devote 30 to 40 hours of time to a single playthrough.  CoD is based mainly on it's multiplayer, something you can pick up and do for 15 minutes and then put it down.  Skyrim has tons and tons of content but it is a game where you can just screw around if you want so how much time you devote to it is up to each individual player.  ME 3 has done well sales wise especialy in comparison to it's predecssors.

? Not sure what you mean. Yes Skyrim and COD are more pick up and play for an hour or so but so what? In the end it results in hundreds of hours being spent to play those games.

My point is those game would be easier fo some people to get into because they don't require the same kind of time commitment that a bioware game requires.  For a bioware game to be worth playing you have to play the whole thing.  With CoD you don't even need to touch the single player campaign.  Those games appeal to a larger audience than a bioware game would because not everybody has dozens of hours they can commit to gaming.  Those games aren't necessarily better than a bioware game but they are more accessible and take less commitment.  Personaly one of the reasons why I like bioware games is because of the commitment it takes to play them.  I get invested into bioware games mentaly and emotionaly because of that commitment but I can see where bioware's style of game would limit sales in comparison.

I agree.

[Torrible]

Modifié par Torrible, 08 mai 2012 - 08:23 .

[kobayashi-maru]

It made $200 million, good apart from end almost as good as first 2. However it ignores the bad press, returns on Amazon, dlc content being postponed to make free ec and the rage of the nerd base who buy all licensed items not doing so. This also looking to future misses out profitability and how much they can get for the movie, anime, dlc, ME sequels and even other bioware games when things are so heated.

The majority who like end are not the nerd base but the majority of those who hate it are. Someone who plays game then trades it in for Halo 4 are not the people buying figures, posters etc.

It could go either way at moment but I still hope EC fixes things, Mike Gamble seems to be trying his hardest to fix it so I'm cautiously optimistic.

[GimmeDaGun]

Paxcorpus wrote...

That's one down, who's next?

You enjoy being a jerk? 

[The Angry One]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Paxcorpus wrote...

That's one down, who's next?

You enjoy being a jerk? 

Look at their sig. Do you really need an answer to that?

Speaking of sigs... your sig... you know it's going to happen. EA have announced they're actively seeking new developers.

*thunderclap*

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Velocithon]

Doesn't really matter. Of course a lot of people bought the game.

The real number that counts is how well Bioware's next game does (if they make a another ME game) or how DLC does.

People have a sour taste in their mouths now. They didn't before.

[Catroi]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

Oh well, nice knowing you all, probably going to not bother with BSN anymore, if the game is a winner for EA, there's no point pressuring them to make changes or do anything to please fans.

No need to waste me time and effort. Guess I'll find an indie studio to fall in love with.

They got fan feedback.  $200 million worth.  ME3 was a great game.  Start, middle, and end.  :lol:

[KotorEffect3]

Catroi wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

Oh well, nice knowing you all, probably going to not bother with BSN anymore, if the game is a winner for EA, there's no point pressuring them to make changes or do anything to please fans.

No need to waste me time and effort. Guess I'll find an indie studio to fall in love with.

They got fan feedback.  $200 million worth.  ME3 was a great game.  Start, middle, and end.  :lol:

Why is it that anybody with a positive opinion of the game now gets accused of trolling?

[legion999]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Catroi wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

Oh well, nice knowing you all, probably going to not bother with BSN anymore, if the game is a winner for EA, there's no point pressuring them to make changes or do anything to please fans.

No need to waste me time and effort. Guess I'll find an indie studio to fall in love with.

They got fan feedback.  $200 million worth.  ME3 was a great game.  Start, middle, and end.  :lol:

Why is it that anybody with a positive opinion of the game now gets accused of trolling?

Why is it that many people with a positive opinion of the game gloat, seem stuck up and act in an inflammatory manner? Not aimed at anyone in parcticular just an observation.

[Hussain_2012]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Catroi wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

Oh well, nice knowing you all, probably going to not bother with BSN anymore, if the game is a winner for EA, there's no point pressuring them to make changes or do anything to please fans.

No need to waste me time and effort. Guess I'll find an indie studio to fall in love with.

They got fan feedback.  $200 million worth.  ME3 was a great game.  Start, middle, and end.  :lol:

Why is it that anybody with a positive opinion of the game now gets accused of trolling?

I think you haven't played the game in my opinion. The game has some good part like Tuchanka , but other parts are "Trolling" "sorry for using that expersion" 

[ShepnTali]

Follow the CoD formula, you make big buckeroos. Can't wait to pwn n00bz in ME4 PvP.

[Catroi]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Catroi wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

Oh well, nice knowing you all, probably going to not bother with BSN anymore, if the game is a winner for EA, there's no point pressuring them to make changes or do anything to please fans.

No need to waste me time and effort. Guess I'll find an indie studio to fall in love with.

They got fan feedback.  $200 million worth.  ME3 was a great game.  Start, middle, and end.  :lol:

*snip epileptic pic of death*

Why is it that anybody with a positive opinion of the game now gets accused of trolling?

Trolling is defined as the intention to create conflict on forums, this place is known as the biggest ME3-hate forum, I'm not saying you can't love the game I'm saying that posting the game was perfect without any arguments IS indeed trolling on this forum because you get a 100% to create yet another thread of raging.
plus the :lol: is the cherry on the cake

sorry for the bad english I'm very tired and english is not my mother language

[Necroscope]

Nothing that happened/will happen during ME3's lifespan will indicate BW success in handling this backslash if you ask me. It will be the success or failure of their next game that is more of an indication as to how satisfied their fans are with their response.

Modifié par Necroscope, 08 mai 2012 - 08:32 .

[KotorEffect3]

Catroi wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Catroi wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

Oh well, nice knowing you all, probably going to not bother with BSN anymore, if the game is a winner for EA, there's no point pressuring them to make changes or do anything to please fans.

No need to waste me time and effort. Guess I'll find an indie studio to fall in love with.

They got fan feedback.  $200 million worth.  ME3 was a great game.  Start, middle, and end.  :lol:

*snip epileptic pic of death*

Why is it that anybody with a positive opinion of the game now gets accused of trolling?

Trolling is defined as the intention to create conflict on forums, this place is known as the biggest ME3-hate forum, I'm not saying you can't love the game I'm saying that posting the game was perfect without any arguments IS indeed trolling on this forum because you get a 100% to create yet another thread of raging.
plus the :lol: is the cherry on the cake

sorry for the bad english I'm very tired and english is not my mother language

This is also the game's official forums and when a fan of the game tries to defend it the haters try to run them off by accusing them of trolling.  And just because someone would rather be positive than a chronicaly negative nancy don't assume they think the game is perfect, maybe some of us just want to counteract all the damn and irrational negativity that takes place here.  Bioware deserves to have better fans than what they have got on this forum at least.

[KotorEffect3]

Hussain_2012 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Catroi wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

StElmo wrote...

www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-makes-over-200-million-in-sales-227119.phtml

Kinda makes me feel irrelevant as a fan, I think I'm just going to give up all together. If they have all the money they need, why should they care about fan feedback?

Oh well, nice knowing you all, probably going to not bother with BSN anymore, if the game is a winner for EA, there's no point pressuring them to make changes or do anything to please fans.

No need to waste me time and effort. Guess I'll find an indie studio to fall in love with.

They got fan feedback.  $200 million worth.  ME3 was a great game.  Start, middle, and end.  :lol:

Why is it that anybody with a positive opinion of the game now gets accused of trolling?

I think you haven't played the game in my opinion. The game has some good part like Tuchanka , but other parts are "Trolling" "sorry for using that expersion" 

I've beaten the game 5 times.  Way to make false assumptions.

[The Angry One]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Bioware deserves to have better fans than what they have got on this forum at least.

That's right, they deserve better fans than people who'll stand by and let them fall into mediocrity as you're doing.
I'm happy you admit this, it's the first step to recovery.

[KotorEffect3]

The Angry One wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Bioware deserves to have better fans than what they have got on this forum at least.

That's right, they deserve better fans than people who'll stand by and let them fall into mediocrity as you're doing.
I'm happy you admit this, it's the first step to recovery.

Oh look another snide condescending remark from the angsty one.