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[Catamantaloedis]

Every democratically elected or representative political figure is either portrayed as a self-serving, coward or power-hungry and corrupt(Udina). While Anderson, a universally agreed upon good guy and father figure of the story, is unable to continue in the rotten work of not fighting and securing the resources which humanity needs, resigns to go fight. The militaristic society of the Turians is illustrated as an ideal with its strict discipline, but broad individual freedoms. They even seem to be most successful at fighting the Reapers, not doubt as propaganda supporting Bioware's militarism. Yet, the cultured,effeminate Asari, drag their feet, until their homeworld falls and the Salarians, who avoid war as best they can, damn near refuse to assist you.Everyone who is forced to leave the battle, ie James, Victus and the (wo)man him/herself, Shepard, complain that they would rather be fighting, even though they would probably be vaporized at any moment, than do unmanly things like diplomacy and alliance crafting. Instead of getting someone useful, like a scientist, for the Prothean squadmate, Bioware instead decides to give you (Guess) a soldier, one who is the most shamelessly militaristic of the whole bunch.

All in all, Mass Effect is propaganda supporting the creation of military dictatorships throughout the Western world. Beware!

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Don't know why my text never appears when I originally post it. Maybe Bioware attempting to silence me?

Modifié par Catamantaloedis, 08 mai 2012 - 07:38 .

[dreman9999]

.....What? And it war, every country is like that during a war.

[Xellith]

Okay... I'll be leaving now...

[GLR-0053]

I should go...

[nhcre8tv1]

GLR-0053 wrote...

I should go...

[Konane117]

nhcre8tv1 wrote...

GLR-0053 wrote...

I should go...

[dreman9999]

dreman9999 wrote...

.....What? And it war, every country is like that during a war.

Also, that 's how most politician act like.

[Catamantaloedis]

You'll see. You'll all see.

Bioware makes it clear through it portrayal of characters in this game that it is fundamentally opposed to democracy and freedom! Freedom!

[NoUserNameHere]

Blame Starship Troopers' effect on the sci fi genre.

Or maybe you're just grasping at emergency induction ports.

[Taboo]

Man and I thought I brought politics to the table........

This makes me LOL.

[sAxMoNkI]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The militaristic society of the Turians is illustrated as an ideal with its strict discipline, but broad individual freedoms

Might just be me but that does sound like an ideal society. Everyone has a role and something to contribute and as long as it doesn't negatively affect everyone around you, you can persue whatever interests you wish.

I'm aware it most likely wouldn't work in practise but I think the ideal is sound.

[Sgt Stryker]

I'm guessing you didn't play TOR. That game depicts democratically-elected public officials in a much more favorable light than Mass Effect ever did, at least on the Republic side.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 08 mai 2012 - 07:45 .

[KotorEffect3]

OP you do realize ME 3 is a war story right?

[Catamantaloedis]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The militaristic society of the Turians is illustrated as an ideal with its strict discipline, but broad individual freedoms

Might just be me but that does sound like an ideal society. Everyone has a role and something to contribute and as long as it doesn't negatively affect everyone around you, you can persue whatever interests you wish.

I'm aware it most likely wouldn't work in practise but I think the ideal is sound.

But the main thing which allows this society, which Bioware portrays is militarism, and the autocratic Hieracrhy's constant, excessive preparations for threats, barring the Reapers which no one could have predicted, don't exist. 

[Catamantaloedis]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

OP you do realize ME 3 is a war story right?

And politics are a part of war too. But the politicians are all cowards, or hungry for power in Mass Effect universe.

[Iwillbeback]

I liked the Protheans although maybe it got boring real quick.

[SirCroft]

Konane117 wrote...

nhcre8tv1 wrote...

GLR-0053 wrote...

I should go...

[Taboo]

This is ALMOST as bad as the Ron Paul thread.

[xsdob]

Given the united states current representatives, I think the description of udina fits them perfectly.

[GLR-0053]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

OP you do realize ME 3 is a war story right?

And politics are a part of war too. But the politicians are all cowards, or hungry for power in Mass Effect universe.

I though stories like Mass Effect are suppose to be a commentary on our society.

[lordofdogtown19]

 
 

[Sgt Stryker]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The militaristic society of the Turians is illustrated as an ideal with its strict discipline, but broad individual freedoms

Might just be me but that does sound like an ideal society. Everyone has a role and something to contribute and as long as it doesn't negatively affect everyone around you, you can persue whatever interests you wish.

I'm aware it most likely wouldn't work in practise but I think the ideal is sound.

But the main thing which allows this society, which Bioware portrays is militarism, and the autocratic Hieracrhy's constant, excessive preparations for threats, barring the Reapers which no one could have predicted, don't exist. 

There is nothing wrong with being prepared for war.

[KotorEffect3]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

OP you do realize ME 3 is a war story right?

And politics are a part of war too. But the politicians are all cowards, or hungry for power in Mass Effect universe.

So in other words politicians can't be trusted.  Sounds like real life to me.  Sounds like you would rather have  a more idealistic Star Trek take on a sci fi setting.

[Catamantaloedis]

GLR-0053 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

OP you do realize ME 3 is a war story right?

And politics are a part of war too. But the politicians are all cowards, or hungry for power in Mass Effect universe.

I though stories like Mass Effect are suppose to be a commentary on our society.

If this was our society, the hawks would've sent the Reapers back to dark space. Clearly Bioware, however, no longer supports civilian rule and is covertly spreading propaganda calling for the overthrow of the governments of the United States, Canada, and Western Europe in favor of Fascist regimes.