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[DMC23]

Lee80alabama wrote...

I accidentally played a match on gold at level one the other day. I was randomly searching for a bronze, and got put in at the tail end of round 1. I came in third place...So whatever to the above. Level is not as important as you seem to think. It's important, but it's not everything.

I've had that happen to and I don't hold that against anybody. That's just something random.

When someone chooses to do that on the other hand may be great, but like I said I don't care, because I use to just go with it but then those guys were the ones that I ended up spending way too much time reviving. I want to have confidence that my teammates can pull their own and if someone is playing a low level I won't have that confidence, so either they go or I do. I may deprive myself of playing with a great player, but most of the time I go deep on Gold and usually get extraction, so I'll stick with the way I play.

[SeismicGravy]

I feel I may have let the side down this time around, as I only managed to kill about 14 Banshees.

Did a successful gold run though.

[bondiboy]

I have never kicked anyone . However it is selfish to come to a gold game on a low level character. If you want to level up do it in bronze or silver like everyone else. Weekend operations are a little different when it comes to N7 rankings because the quests are based on gold extractions and people with lower N7 rankings have no choice but to participate on gold if they are tring for a bonus pack. Happy to get a gold extraction with friends and then help others to get there.

[Tineard]

Gnaeus.Silvanus wrote...

Tineard wrote...

Weapons - because man with M-8 (for example) fairly can't do the damage of M-6 or M-99 or bunch of other guns. And no tactic will save you on gold if you don't have some minimal firepower. Only biotics can afford to have crappy weapons - they have explosions..

I beg to disagree with you, Avenger moded with incinerate III, assault rifle III is just as powerful against reapers.

well, maybe, but if you modify stronger weapon it'll be even more useful and powerful.. and if you take M-8, for me it looks like you didn't even try other weapon.. it'll take -20-50% to your cooldown, yes, but damage will grow much more) and let's leave M-8 for a moment - let's take any class with shotgun on condor/hydra maps - it's a big risk, to take people with short range weapon there, so even if they masters, i would've left in my team only ones with really good shotguns, if any.. works for me most of the times

Modifié par Tineard, 14 mai 2012 - 11:34 .

[dirtdiver32318]

Yeah I dunno my favourite is this one time I was kicked when I just got in and I messages one of te people and asked why he said it was a private room ? Umm set it to private not public hahaha

[CerealAnthony]

so how about some dlc with vorcha in it, amirite?

[xandrian29]

Running a successful gold comes down to one thing: communication.

Before attempting to run any gold ask yourself two questions:

Am I using a microphone?
Are my squad mates using a microphone?

If the answer to either question is no, you are seriously reducing the likelihood of successfully completing the mission, with or without full extraction.

I tend to avoid players without mics more than looking at N7 rank, class, character level, or weapon choice.  Don't get me wrong, those are important, but they are secondary to a squad that communicates well.

I would also suggest sending friend requests to any players that you play well with.  I don't understand why some players continually try to do pick-up runs on gold.

DMC23 wrote...

I don't care at all about N7 rating on Gold
I care about character levels. If you show up with a level 6 character
for Gold I don't care if you're good or not. You're an ass who's either
stupid or trying to show off and I don't want to deal with you in either
case.

This simply isn't true.  This reads a little more like you're afraid a level 6 character may be able to out perform you.  Any level 6 krogan or infiltrator is more than capable of holding their own in gold.

Modifié par xandrian29, 14 mai 2012 - 11:48 .

[Lee80]

DMC23 wrote...

I've had that happen to and I don't hold that against anybody. That's just something random.

When someone chooses to do that on the other hand may be great, but like I said I don't care, because I use to just go with it but then those guys were the ones that I ended up spending way too much time reviving. I want to have confidence that my teammates can pull their own and if someone is playing a low level I won't have that confidence, so either they go or I do. I may deprive myself of playing with a great player, but most of the time I go deep on Gold and usually get extraction, so I'll stick with the way I play.

I understand.  I guess you have to do what you think works best in these situations.  Just pointing out my expereince. 

[VRtheTrooper]

xandrian29 wrote...

Running a successful gold comes down to one thing: communication.

Before attempting to run any gold ask yourself two questions:

Am I using a microphone?
Are my squad mates using a microphone?

If the answer to either question is no, you are seriously reducing the likelihood of successfully completing the mission, with or without full extraction.

I tend to avoid players without mics more than looking at N7 rank, class, character level, or weapon choice.  Don't get me wrong, those are important, but they are secondary to a squad that communicates well.

I would also suggest sending friend requests to any players that you play well with.  I don't

DMC23 wrote...

I don't care at all about N7 rating on Gold
I care about character levels. If you show up with a level 6 character
for Gold I don't care if you're good or not. You're an ass who's either
stupid or trying to show off and I don't want to deal with you in either
case.

This simply isn't true.  This reads a little more like you're afraid a level 6 character may be able to out perform you.  Any level 6 krogan or infiltrator is more than capable of holding their own in gold.

i understand where you are coming from, but the lower the lvl, the slimmer the chances for survival

they should just lvl their character. it doesn't take that long. they will die in a few shots. i ran a gold match with a lower lvl, and i held my own, but i wouldn't reccomend it to anyone. i can care less about who comes out on top, i just wan't to complete the match successfully, and i don't want to have to keep reviving someone. that gets very irritating. 

[DrwEddy]

When do we get reward?

[dirtdiver32318]

I dunno character levels don't bother me as much I enjoy promoting and starting anew with characters and I feel I preform the same maybe a little more defensive when my character os a lower level

[xandrian29]

dirtdiver32318 wrote...

I dunno character levels don't bother me as much I enjoy promoting and starting anew with characters and I feel I preform the same maybe a little more defensive when my character os a lower level

^This

Smart players know how to play their classes at any level.  Obviously low level isn't optimum for gold runs, but it hardly makes it impossible.   Epecially when one shot from most elite enimies on gold drop shields to the shield gate in one hit regardless of how powerful the shields are.  The same is true for the health gate as well.

[Zaidra]

Tineard wrote...

Zaidra wrote...

Colonel Sheppard wrote...

I have to say, reading all your comments about getting full extraction on gold puzzles me. I almost always get full extraction on gold unless I'm on a team of those guys (lone wolves). Gold is so easy now. Almost like bronze in the beginning. A lot of good guns out there and a lot of good players who understand the right combo of classes. I find that if you try to reject players ranked 200 or less it's easy to get full extraction. I've gotten full extraction on gold with sub-200 players too. This isn't about farming on base white, which I'm kinda bored of now. Pick the right guns, the right classes, the right player ranks, .... win. Easy.

N7 rank is an invalid way of evaluating someone. It's not fair and doesn't really work. I'm N7 180 and I play gold all the time, no problem. Of the eight games I played this weekend, I got six full extractions. 

N7 rating is only how many times someone has promoted a character, plus their character levels added up. Many people (such as myself) get them to level 20 and then prefer to keep it that way. If you don't promote (like me) then your N7 rating doesn't go up.

Not only that, but people can get a higher N7 rating no matter what class they play in. I've seen people with an N7 rating of 4k+ that are just complete idiots, that play like bronze players. Just because they don't play in gold doesn't mean their N7 rating doesn't go up. 

Well, as far as i know, there are less then 20 people with 4k+ N7 rating, and i certainly know, what there were more.. so it's simple - large part of them were cheaters (or smth like that), who eventially got banned. i can't believe, what some person played 1000+ matches on bronse and still unable/unwilling to play gold. But yes, I admit - N7 rating shouldn't be the main factor for choosing people in your team - imho, weapons should be..

I played with a 4k+ on Saturday and he was a complete moron. He died more than the rest of us put together. 

[DMC23]

DMC23 wrote...

I don't care at all about N7 rating on Gold
I care about character levels. If you show up with a level 6 character
for Gold I don't care if you're good or not. You're an ass who's either
stupid or trying to show off and I don't want to deal with you in either
case.

This simply isn't true.  This reads a little more like you're afraid a level 6 character may be able to out perform you.  Any level 6 krogan or infiltrator is more than capable of holding their own in gold.

lol! I don't care if I get outperformed by anyone. I've played on Silver with lower levels while I'm 18+ and got outscored and I couldn't care less. I may have overstated it, but the truth is players with higher level characters are more likely to perform better because of their superioor upgrades, so I'm going to trust them more. If I'm doing a Gold mission I want confidence in my teammates and the lower their level the lower my confidence. I don't know if that level 6 is a savant or an ass, so I prefer to skip them.(Chances are more likely they're an ass IME)

Modifié par DMC23, 15 mai 2012 - 12:13 .

[Zaidra]

DMC23 wrote...

I don't care at all about N7 rating on Gold I care about character levels. If you show up with a level 6 character for Gold I don't care if you're good or not. You're an ass who's either stupid or trying to show off and I don't want to deal with you in either case.

I played with a level 1 Drell Vanguard a few weeks ago and he actually did better than any of us put together. Course he could have been cheating....

anyways, I've played with level 4- on Gold and they've done fine. Level doesn't matter as much as skill.

[Zaidra]

Tineard wrote...

 (engineer with assault rifle _and_ shotgun, for example, obviously won't do), .

why do you say that? If you have the right upgrades, that can be boss on a gold match. 

[Tineard]

About N7 ratings & lvls, for me it was 1-20 lvl on bronse, then 1-15 bronse 15-20 silver, then 1-6 bronse 7-20 silver, then 1-20 silver, then 1-15 silver, 15-20 gold and now it's 1-7/8 silver, 8-20 gold. Sorry for all that numbers, but my point is - my N7 rating exactly shows up, what I managed to promote a lot of characters and can play on low levels, especially 'cause i'm taking ammo&weapon&armor III upgrades, to compensate that. But if someone with rating 200+ joins gold game on lvl 1-10, well.. It's simple, he won't play with me. It's not a charity.

[xandrian29]

Tineard wrote...

About N7 ratings & lvls, for me it was 1-20 lvl on bronse, then 1-15 bronse 15-20 silver, then 1-6 bronse 7-20 silver, then 1-20 silver, then 1-15 silver, 15-20 gold and now it's 1-7/8 silver, 8-20 gold. Sorry for all that numbers, but my point is - my N7 rating exactly shows up, what I managed to promote a lot of characters and can play on low levels, especially 'cause i'm taking ammo&weapon&armor III upgrades, to compensate that. But if someone with rating 200+ joins gold game on lvl 1-10, well.. It's simple, he won't play with me. It's not a charity.

For clarification, you mean less than 200 correct?  N7 1000 qualifies as 200+.

[Tineard]

Zaidra wrote...

Tineard wrote...

 (engineer with assault rifle _and_ shotgun, for example, obviously won't do), .

why do you say that? If you have the right upgrades, that can be boss on a gold match. 

if you carry some heavy weapons on class, which mainly uses abilities ->significantly increasing cooldown, it doesn't look good) and anyway, 1 heavy weapon should be enough for anyone, don't you think?

[DMC23]

Zaidra wrote...

DMC23 wrote...

I don't care at all about N7 rating on Gold I care about character levels. If you show up with a level 6 character for Gold I don't care if you're good or not. You're an ass who's either stupid or trying to show off and I don't want to deal with you in either case.

I played with a level 1 Drell Vanguard a few weeks ago and he actually did better than any of us put together. Course he could have been cheating....

anyways, I've played with level 4- on Gold and they've done fine. Level doesn't matter as much as skill.

But I don't know your skill or that of any other random person I'm playing with. I only know what level your character is and therefore have an understanding of its upgrades. I've never played a Gold Match with someone level 10> who wasn't a burden to the team, so now I just forgo that headache. If that hasn't been your experience then congrats, but it doesn't change my experience..

[Tineard]

xandrian29 wrote...

Tineard wrote...

About N7 ratings & lvls, for me it was 1-20 lvl on bronse, then 1-15 bronse 15-20 silver, then 1-6 bronse 7-20 silver, then 1-20 silver, then 1-15 silver, 15-20 gold and now it's 1-7/8 silver, 8-20 gold. Sorry for all that numbers, but my point is - my N7 rating exactly shows up, what I managed to promote a lot of characters and can play on low levels, especially 'cause i'm taking ammo&weapon&armor III upgrades, to compensate that. But if someone with rating 200+ joins gold game on lvl 1-10, well.. It's simple, he won't play with me. It's not a charity.

For clarification, you mean less than 200 correct?  N7 1000 qualifies as 200+.

 I meant 200-300, actually) and of course less than that.. should've write it clearer, my bad)

[AlexMBrennan]

they should just lvl their character.[...]they will die in a few shots.[...]i don't want to have to keep reviving

That's where high N7 rank comes in - I've done this before, and I wouldn't pick a low level character if I couldn't handle it. You can see this from my absurdly high N7 rank (promote at lvl 20 and pick the highest - from character cards - class for the next gold match)

Your argument is kinda irrelevant since there is cover in this game. Simply put, you die if you're not in cover regardless of class or points wasted on fitness. In my experience, most deaths are due to bad strategy - running off to the objective and thus making enemies spawn behind you before you can take out the enemies in front of you and similarly brilliant moves.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 15 mai 2012 - 12:26 .

[dirtdiver32318]

I can see this is a losing battle for both sides and another thing people pay attention to score its nice ti see who is contributing to the squad and who is not but does it really matter of all are doing well. Of you want personal glory play cod or bf I own both and love both so not I'm not bashing them just saying its pretty much personal glory not team work you rarely see that in either game and same goes for ME. Yet me if one team member falls because he's not falling in line or sticking to plan it hurts the rest of the team

[DMC23]

For anybody wondering the Operation is now over.

[TMI MoXxi]

My N7 rank is 201. I beat almost every player I meet. Bronze is too easy and boring, silver is great warmup, gold seems to be the glove that fits. So I wouldn't pay that much attention to the N7 rank as I would to the class rank and weapon choice. I have met excellent players with low rank that I have enjoyed playing with teamwise, that knows their way around maps and have tactics, but I would personally either kick or leave lobby's with players lower than 10 on Gold. You simply don't have enough powers to support yourself, and you have to rely and leech on others to survive till extraction. One thing is teamwork, but it's one heck of a pain in your bum if you have to assist and revive that one player throughout the entire game because he can't defend himself, or cover his bum well enough...
If you're on there playing for pure fun, don't go on Gold with low levels, it will most certainly end up with you getting nasty messages.

Modifié par TMI MoXxi, 15 mai 2012 - 12:51 .