stysiaq wrote...
And, Isaac, try to be respectful; the amount of work put into the video is a sign of devotion to the series. I didn't see any "pro-ending" videos with so much effort behind them last time I checked.
IsaacShep wrote...
Video keeps getting better and better. The guy doesn't even seem to realize that the ending events take place at the BOTTOM of the Citadel tower, on the upside of it and the Crucible docks to that part, opposite to what Sovereign did in ME1 where he connected to the TOP of the tower.
But we have different animations in the ending sequence than standard combat animations. Plus this is the grand finale, obviously they wanted it pretty and cinematic uh-oh and HUDs don't exactly scream cinematicOwnaholic wrote...
Right, but you have to reload. And I believe you have your HUD.
If you recall, I said in the video that no place in the entire series has all of the following done at the same time:If it were another gameplay mechanic, they would've just done the exact same thing at the beginning of the game and enabled reloading.
- Unlimited Ammo
- No reloading required
- No weapon overheating
- No HUD display
- No weapon re-charge period
Modifié par Ownaholic, 09 mai 2012 - 08:11 .
The main reason people like IT is because it removes the possibility that developers simply made mistakes and the ending is lackluster. It adds grand plan to the entire thing and makes it "a genious twist" rather than simply a luckluster ending. People want to believe in this.balance5050 wrote...
That says a lot to me actually, the main reason people like IT is only because we like Mass Effect so much.
They could've, but they didn't. That's not part of the "wounded Shep barely walks" cinematic thing yet.Ownaholic wrote...
If they did it for the cinematics, why didn't they also do this when we ran down the hill? The HUD is there, regular ammo, reloading, the works.
Modifié par mcgreggers99, 09 mai 2012 - 08:13 .
IsaacShep wrote...
The main reason people like IT is because it removes the possibility that developers simply made mistakes and the ending is lackluster. It adds grand plan to the entire thing and makes it "a genious twist" rather than simply a luckluster ending. People want to believe in this.balance5050 wrote...
That says a lot to me actually, the main reason people like IT is only because we like Mass Effect so much.
IsaacShep wrote...
Such a "researched" and praised video shouldn't have any easy things to attackstysiaq wrote...
and yet you still watch it; try to dismiss more plausible elements of "evidence" though, because you seem to attack only the easy ones.
Those guns can over heat,... Why can'T this in ME3 gun over heat?IsaacShep wrote...
And here we are, unlimited ammo part. Dear author, yes we did have unlimited ammo at the beginning of ME3. Why? Because gameplay mechanics. Seriously.
stysiaq wrote...
IsaacShep wrote...
Such a "researched" and praised video shouldn't have any easy things to attackstysiaq wrote...
and yet you still watch it; try to dismiss more plausible elements of "evidence" though, because you seem to attack only the easy ones.
That's the funniest thing you said here. You reject the author of the video to percieve a little bit far-fetched parts as evidence, or even making some mistakes, just because YOU think otherwise. It doesn't matter, that me or you don't think the points brought up are by no means signs of indoctrination process. They are for the author, yet still he marks most of them as discussable.
Of course it makes your job here easier. Attack few weaker parts of the hour and a half video + dont address any point you can't argue with = render whole video as crap. Thats eristics, and I suppose you know that.
On the side note, even if I don't agree with everything in the video it has one advantage - it covers about everything you can actually see in the ending sequence. It doesn't ignore any of the things you see, whereas you must almost put a blindfold on your eyes if you want to think that literal interpretation of the endings is logical.
The point is that ME ending actually made somebody make a documentary on the last 10 minutes disaster. It will be probably used as another PR spin.
dreman9999 wrote...
Those guns can over heat,... Why can'T this in ME3 gun over heat?IsaacShep wrote...
And here we are, unlimited ammo part. Dear author, yes we did have unlimited ammo at the beginning of ME3. Why? Because gameplay mechanics. Seriously.
IsaacShep wrote...
The main reason people like IT is because it removes the possibility that developers simply made mistakes and the ending is lackluster. It adds grand plan to the entire thing and makes it "a genious twist" rather than simply a luckluster ending. People want to believe in this.
Good for the author then. But the purpouse of this video is not just the author's personal satisfaction he made a nice video. He posted it publicly and speak directly to potential audience = he wants his arguments and POV to convince others.stysiaq wrote...
On the side note, even if I don't agree with everything in the video it has one advantage - it covers about everything you can actually see in the ending sequence.
Modifié par Refara, 09 mai 2012 - 08:27 .
But his argument is valid.Every thing is gear to the ending and he is fair with the selection with select which are and arn't valid points.IsaacShep wrote...
Good for the author then. But the purpouse of this video is not just the author's personal satisfaction he made a nice video. He posted it publicly and speak directly to potential audience = he wants his arguments and POV to convince others.stysiaq wrote...
On the side note, even if I don't agree with everything in the video it has one advantage - it covers about everything you can actually see in the ending sequence.
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 09 mai 2012 - 08:39 .
Ownaholic wrote...
You're quite possbily the best critic I've ever met.
IsaacShep wrote...
Uhh Child's voice part. FemShep does
not exist in ManShep's universe and vice versa. Jennifer Hale and Mark
Meer adding texture to Catalyst's voice is not a proof of anything
because one of them simply does not exist in the story.
Unless of course we assume that in this scene Shep connects to his "feminine" or "masculine" side lol. Yeah
stysiaq wrote...
As for the unlimited ammo gun, it's the very last thing I would consider as proof, and the first one I'd slap a "lazy" label on.
Sohlito wrote...
IsaacShep wrote...
Uhh Child's voice part. FemShep does
not exist in ManShep's universe and vice versa. Jennifer Hale and Mark
Meer adding texture to Catalyst's voice is not a proof of anything
because one of them simply does not exist in the story.
Unless of course we assume that in this scene Shep connects to his "feminine" or "masculine" side lol. Yeah
You dislike the IT, we get it. You have issues with the video, we get that to. Couldn't you just watch it, list your grievances then make a simple, yet comprehensive post instead of near-spamming the thread with what equates to "I OBJECT TO THIS OUTRRRRRAGEOUS CLAIM!" (roll the r's and say it in a funny accent). One post is all you need, then debate/discuss as necessary.
This is almost an embarrassment to the rest of us who don't support IT.
I heavily disagree with the both of ya's. I am still very upset that this idea was abandoned. Though I'm not sure this is the place to get into it, I think going dark energy thread went all the way back to character creation in ME1. I also want to share my speculations regarding the technological singularity codex entry and then I should be done or else I'll start ranting (if I haven't already). There are two things about the codex entry I'd like to point out. First technological singularity was certainly being used to describe the origins of the reapers. Whether or not that was its sole purpose, we can't really tell. Second thing, you have to wonder about the fact as to why it was cut. If it is as you say and it was going to be an idea on where the story was headed, why was it cut? Wouldn't it have been beneficial to keep as forshadowing? I think that means it's obvious that at least by ME2 they decided to go the dark energy route. Then they dropped it all... ok. I need to stop.stysiaq wrote...
IsaacShep wrote...
Dark Energy part is as uninformed as it can get. They didn't shange the endings from Dark Energy to current ones because of leak. The leak already had the current ending. BS. And Dark Energy was only one of the concepts. Drew basically confirmed it himself AND there's a cut Codex entry on technological singularity from ME2 further confirming Dark Energy was just one of the contepts at the table.
That is true, and I can't see why there are still people thinking otherwise.
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