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The Indoctrination Theory - A Documentary


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I really enjoyed the doc. I really like the point about the control panel. Whereabouts on the citadel does the TIM/Anderson sequence actually happen? When you visit the citadel tower in ME3 it looks exactly the same as it did in ME1.

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GrIzZlY_

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awesome

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The interview will be uploaded either tonight or tomorrow; Andy took a little bit longer than expected.

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You use the word "proven"? But what do you mean with that? I don't see anything being proven in the video.

Don't get me wrong, great video. You put a lot of effort in it. There are just too many if or things that can be explained by aesthetic or game designing choices.

So thank you for taking a lot of time trying to convince us but you haven't got me on board with this.
I do however support Bioware pulling a "we meant to do that" and making the indoctrination theory reality. Because it would make the disappointing ending go away...

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Myth Razer wrote...

You use the word "proven"? But what do you mean with that?


I meant it in the same way that Bioware meant "artistic integrity".

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I just wanted to say how great this video was. It's really helpful to see everything all in one place rather than having to dig through thousands of videos/podcasts/blogs/etc. looking for information, and I think your organization was really great. There were a couple of things you presented I hadn't even thought of. (That 1m1 thing still cracks me up, too.)

I'm still undecided whether or not I believe IT as a whole, but you've presented a lot of compelling and interesting evidence.

I'd definitely be interested in seeing a follow-up if that's still in the works. Thanks again for all the hard work! :)

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Ownaholic wrote...

Myth Razer wrote...

You use the word "proven"? But what do you mean with that?


I meant it in the same way that Bioware meant "artistic integrity".


Heh, nice one. But still doesn't make your theory proven right. Just probable.

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I've always been intrigued and hopefully of the Indoctrination Theory, but I was always afraid it was just wishful thinking and that the ending seemed so disconnected because of rushed or lazy writing and programming. After looking at it enough though, the ending almost has to be a dream of some kind. The most convincing piece of evidence that points to this for me is the gut wound that Sheppard all of a sudden has exactly where Anderson was shot. And the fact that they made a note to get a zoomed in shot of it.

I'll patiently wait to see what BioWare has to say about it.

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Darth_Acheron47 wrote...

I'd definitely be interested in seeing a follow-up if that's still in the works. Thanks again for all the hard work! :)


Yessir that's still going to be happening. Another two weeks probably. Maybe sooner.

Thanks!

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Here's my interview! Just went up. =]


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Image IPB ADD this to the video!!!

Modifié par Jawsomebob, 19 mai 2012 - 11:12 .


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Shall start watching now.

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Jawsomebob wrote...

%20http://guides.gamepressure.com/masseffect/gfx/word/-2060212578.jpg%20 ADD this to the video!!!


Would you be kind enough to explain how this is relevant? I've asked in other forums where you've posted it. It's just a map of the Citadel Tower from Mass Effect 1, isn't it?

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Ownaholic wrote...

Jawsomebob wrote...

%20http://guides.gamepressure.com/masseffect/gfx/word/-2060212578.jpg%20 ADD this to the video!!!


Would you be kind enough to explain how this is relevant? I've asked in other forums where you've posted it. It's just a map of the Citadel Tower from Mass Effect 1, isn't it?


Looks a lot like a map of the ending too doesnt it? Think about it for a second.

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Doesn't it look like a reaper too?

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Baihu1983

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So far this is simply making me more and more sure the devs got lazy/rushed.

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It does look like a reaper, but I don't think it looks like the ending pathway on the Citadel.
There was no donut-shaped chamber that we walked around. There were no expanded areas for us to explore.
It was a pretty linear pathway, whereas the Citadel Tower (as shown by that image) was a very large, wide place with many areas to explore.

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Watched the vid some parts i agree with others not, some times it feels like they simply say something is solid proof just because they said it.

Shall go into better detail later.

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so are we going to see part 2

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Excellent documentary to watch, there were a few points where the 'clear facts' got a little hazy, but I can see that there is a lot of evidence being presented, and the fact that he's willing to include information that is discounted and not applicable shows that he is at least willing to examine information rather than accept every flimsy point as being definitive proof.

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Ownaholic wrote...

It does look like a reaper, but I don't think it looks like the ending pathway on the Citadel.
There was no donut-shaped chamber that we walked around. There were no expanded areas for us to explore.
It was a pretty linear pathway, whereas the Citadel Tower (as shown by that image) was a very large, wide place with many areas to explore.


donut shaped chamber is the room where you meet the illusive man and anderson. The map needs to be looked at with both levels of the ending taken into account and merged

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Image IPB

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Baihu1983

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Dear god!

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I dont really believe in the IT but im in the "I hope it turns to be true corner because its the only thing that would give any sense to the atrocious endings we got " corner so IMO you are giving Bioware too much credit my friend , great watch nonetheless .

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One thing. Of all the things you say is a proven fact the one that bothers me the most is we the gamers are Indoctrinated.

Im hoping you were simply joking at that part?