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[jpraelster93]

so glad I can have this as my ending the extending cut is going to fail

[v0rt3x22]

I didn't like that documentary too much.

[R1K4RD05]

As i said in the comments on that video.I personally believe that the Indoctrination Theory MIGHT be true. Maybe the BioWare will make it so it's not real but seriously now. If they did make it real, they could make a **** load of DLCs with side missions or cinematics. They could even make money out of that. And I personally would pay from around 5-10 euros for a DLC to get me some explanation on that. Saying just my opinion, If the IT is not true and i'll have satisfying ending that will include Shepard's death (or not) I'm not going to get mad as long as I'll feel satisfied. But to be honest, I would really want the IT to be real just to get some more gaming time in the ME series.

[Stumpykins]

i thought the jessica merizan twitter post about how the extended cut will provide no confirmation on the theory was the final, most damaging piece of information that killed that theory

[R1K4RD05]

In that case I'm really curious about why BioWare did such ending with such weird details that are 'confirming' it

[Cold_Breaker12]

Just a few points, unlimited ammo at the end, well the turrets thruout the game had unlimited ammo and maybe since shepard was hurt they wouldve had to make a new animation of him reloading while injured and got "lazy" again. good video tho and i wish it were true lol

Modifié par Cold_Breaker12, 24 juin 2012 - 10:23 .

[mrcanada]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

I didn't like that documentary too much.

Made too much sense?

[Greymist Shadow]

I know this post is forever old, but I already left me3 and now I'm getting back into it, so bear with me...

Has anyone yet gotten ANY, repeat ANY explanation AGAINST Indoc theory, as to why your Carni has infinite ammo after you get hit by the beam?

Also, has anyone yet gotten ANY explanation AGAINST IT as for how Shepard's standing in open space where we visually see the Crucible dock uninhibited, without air, when he's conversing with Starchild?

And finally, this isn't as strong as the other 2, but I'm just wondering why NO ONE so far that I've seen or heard has ever mentioned that for Control and Synthesis, the 2 choices the reapers prefer, you only have to do it once, but for Destroy, you have to intentionally shoot the thing several times before the cutscene takes over.  Hell, for Synthesis, you don't even have to go thru with it, just get close.  I tried walking to the edge and changing my mind and the cutscene took over while I was still a good, safe distance away.  But for Destroy it's as tho you have to answer, then confirm your answer, then "Is that your final answer?" "Are you sure?" "Really?" "You can turn back if you want to." "Last chance." "Please?" "dammit, FINE!!"

Just wondering...

edit:  I just realized exactly why your gun has infinite ammo.  Because if it didn't, what would you do if you waste too many shots on the husks or Marauder Shields (the unsung hero trying to save you from the endings) and then you don't have enough ammo to Destroy?  Still, tho, BW could have thought of SOMETHING.  Hell, have Anderson give him a new gun, you know?  Infinite ammo was a weak decision, if you ask me.  Unless IT is true, that is...

Modifié par Greymist Shadow, 20 septembre 2012 - 11:41 .

[Ithurael]

Greymist Shadow wrote...

I know this post is forever old, but I already left me3 and now I'm getting back into it, so bear with me...

Has anyone yet gotten ANY, repeat ANY explanation AGAINST Indoc theory, as to why your Carni has infinite ammo after you get hit by the beam?

Also, has anyone yet gotten ANY explanation AGAINST IT as for how Shepard's standing in open space where we visually see the Crucible dock uninhibited, without air, when he's conversing with Starchild?

And finally, this isn't as strong as the other 2, but I'm just wondering why NO ONE so far that I've seen or heard has ever mentioned that for Control and Synthesis, the 2 choices the reapers prefer, you only have to do it once, but for Destroy, you have to intentionally shoot the thing several times before the cutscene takes over.  Hell, for Synthesis, you don't even have to go thru with it, just get close.  I tried walking to the edge and changing my mind and the cutscene took over while I was still a good, safe distance away.  But for Destroy it's as tho you have to answer, then confirm your answer, then "Is that your final answer?" "Are you sure?" "Really?" "You can turn back if you want to." "Last chance." "Please?" "dammit, FINE!!"

Just wondering...

edit:  I just realized exactly why your gun has infinite ammo.  Because if it didn't, what would you do if you waste too many shots on the husks or Marauder Shields (the unsung hero trying to save you from the endings) and then you don't have enough ammo to Destroy?  Still, tho, BW could have thought of SOMETHING.  Hell, have Anderson give him a new gun, you know?  Infinite ammo was a weak decision, if you ask me.  Unless IT is true, that is...

Those are mostly story elements/plotholes - take those up with Bioware.

Bioware confirmed that there will be no shepard in ME4
twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/240650945275514881

Bioware confirmed that there will be no more post breath DLC
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/13492198/19#13503201

Bioware confirmed that "if your version of IT requires more content, that is no the interpretation Bioware had/has"
twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/240646722563485696

The endings are final
social.bioware.com/forums/forum/1/topic/355/index/13817665&lf=8

IT Dream (and its spinoffs) are a valid interpretation - and thus will never be denied by bioware. However, as for plausability it is not going to happen. Your best bet is going with IT Con or a "Waking Nightmare" interpretation (a version of IT where the endings still happen). If you still want to believe in IT Dream you can but you will be left with:

Shepard wakes up...and then...

Modifié par Ithurael, 20 septembre 2012 - 12:45 .

[N7 Assass1n]

Ithurael wrote...

Greymist Shadow wrote...

I know this post is forever old, but I already left me3 and now I'm getting back into it, so bear with me...

Has anyone yet gotten ANY, repeat ANY explanation AGAINST Indoc theory, as to why your Carni has infinite ammo after you get hit by the beam?

Also, has anyone yet gotten ANY explanation AGAINST IT as for how Shepard's standing in open space where we visually see the Crucible dock uninhibited, without air, when he's conversing with Starchild?

And finally, this isn't as strong as the other 2, but I'm just wondering why NO ONE so far that I've seen or heard has ever mentioned that for Control and Synthesis, the 2 choices the reapers prefer, you only have to do it once, but for Destroy, you have to intentionally shoot the thing several times before the cutscene takes over.  Hell, for Synthesis, you don't even have to go thru with it, just get close.  I tried walking to the edge and changing my mind and the cutscene took over while I was still a good, safe distance away.  But for Destroy it's as tho you have to answer, then confirm your answer, then "Is that your final answer?" "Are you sure?" "Really?" "You can turn back if you want to." "Last chance." "Please?" "dammit, FINE!!"

Just wondering...

edit:  I just realized exactly why your gun has infinite ammo.  Because if it didn't, what would you do if you waste too many shots on the husks or Marauder Shields (the unsung hero trying to save you from the endings) and then you don't have enough ammo to Destroy?  Still, tho, BW could have thought of SOMETHING.  Hell, have Anderson give him a new gun, you know?  Infinite ammo was a weak decision, if you ask me.  Unless IT is true, that is...

Those are mostly story elements/plotholes - take those up with Bioware.

Bioware confirmed that there will be no shepard in ME4
twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/240650945275514881

Bioware confirmed that there will be no more post breath DLC
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/13492198/19#13503201

Bioware confirmed that "if your version of IT requires more content, that is no the interpretation Bioware had/has"
twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/240646722563485696

The endings are final
social.bioware.com/forums/forum/1/topic/355/index/13817665&lf=8

IT Dream (and its spinoffs) are a valid interpretation - and thus will never be denied by bioware. However, as for plausability it is not going to happen. Your best bet is going with IT Con or a "Waking Nightmare" interpretation (a version of IT where the endings still happen). If you still want to believe in IT Dream you can but you will be left with:

Shepard wakes up...and then...

That's your only argument anyone ever sees you use. <_<

[Ithurael]

N7 Assass1n wrote...

That's your only argument anyone ever sees you use. <_<

Deal homeslice

Shep wakes up and then what?

No shep in ME4, no more post ending DLC. You can believe what you want - I am just taking the facts as they appear. I didn't like the endings that much (EC makes them 'passable') but we can only process what we have been given. IT scoured the entire game looking for evidence that it was a dream. I believe that word from the developer > in game evidence. As they are the ones who made the game and know which direction they will take the story.

Apologies if I offended. Believe what you want. But if you perscribe to IT Dream I foresee much headcanon in your ending

[ElSuperGecko]

Ithurael wrote...
...But if you perscribe to IT Dream I foresee much headcanon in your ending

To be perfectly fair though, I see much headcannon in people's interpretations of Destroy, Synthesis and Control as well.  The endings, even with the Extended Cut, all pretty much NEED headcannoning to make any kind of sense of.

[Ithurael]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Ithurael wrote...
...But if you perscribe to IT Dream I foresee much headcanon in your ending

To be perfectly fair though, I see much headcannon in people's interpretations of Destroy, Synthesis and Control as well.  The endings, even with the Extended Cut, all pretty much NEED headcannoning to make any kind of sense of.

To interpret - yes. But the content is still there. If you subscribe to IT Dream there will be no more content and thus it shall all be in your imagination - which is cool in a way but kinda unfulfilling but if that if your cup-o-tea I say go for it.

Modifié par Ithurael, 20 septembre 2012 - 04:24 .

[Greymist Shadow]

I'm playing a new game and I just completed the Geth Fighter Sqaudrons mission, where you go into the geth server virtually. After completing it I went and talked with people on the Normandy, and Joker had something VERY interesting to say for this thread...

Joker asked what it was like.

Shepard said he got out alright.

Then joker said something extremely close to: "Well how would you know?"
"How would I know what?"
"Well the Geth interact virtually, right? How do you know that you ever got out? How do you know all this, everything you're seeing now, isn't just a simulation?"

Shepard did not have an answer.

People who don't believe IT will dismiss it, but I bet people who do believe It will chalk up another tally...

[Baa Baa]

Greymist Shadow wrote...

I'm playing a new game and I just completed the Geth Fighter Sqaudrons mission, where you go into the geth server virtually. After completing it I went and talked with people on the Normandy, and Joker had something VERY interesting to say for this thread...

Joker asked what it was like.

Shepard said he got out alright.

Then joker said something extremely close to: "Well how would you know?"
"How would I know what?"
"Well the Geth interact virtually, right? How do you know that you ever got out? How do you know all this, everything you're seeing now, isn't just a simulation?"

Shepard did not have an answer.

People who don't believe IT will dismiss it, but I bet people who do believe It will chalk up another tally...

I'm not an ITer, but I actually think that is interesting.
Not necessarily proof of IT, but a neat thing you noticed

[blueumi]

I have see all three videos over and over and they are the only reason i'm less angry then I was still don't like biowares ending but IT sure would be cool

[Bill Casey]

Baa Baa wrote...

Greymist Shadow wrote...

I'm playing a new game and I just completed the Geth Fighter Sqaudrons mission, where you go into the geth server virtually. After completing it I went and talked with people on the Normandy, and Joker had something VERY interesting to say for this thread...

Joker asked what it was like.

Shepard said he got out alright.

Then joker said something extremely close to: "Well how would you know?"
"How would I know what?"
"Well the Geth interact virtually, right? How do you know that you ever got out? How do you know all this, everything you're seeing now, isn't just a simulation?"

Shepard did not have an answer.

People who don't believe IT will dismiss it, but I bet people who do believe It will chalk up another tally...

I'm not an ITer, but I actually think that is interesting.
Not necessarily proof of IT, but a neat thing you noticed

That's way old...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 22 septembre 2012 - 12:04 .