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balance5050 wrote...

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 But seriously though man, great job! I thoroughly enjoyed and will start spreading it around my corner of the internet.;)


WHO THE HELL GAVE YOU YOUR OWN CORNER?! Not fair.


My corner: 
http://www.reddit.com/r/Indoctrinated/ 

I share it with others though;)


Your corner of the interweb contains lots of theories. You must think for a living.


"You must think for a living."

I like to think so...:P




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This is now a full on religion. Tom Cruise would loveeee to share his ideas.

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Makrys wrote...

Well... Gamble did say to hold onto our saves!

Annnnd there are 3 plot IDs, not just an 'extra' one. I personally think there is something more to it. The Shep 'breathing' scene should only contain one flag. I see no reason why it would hold 3. Idk.


Fair point. Can't argue against that. I thought there was only 1 extra flag. No idea what the other two would be for.
Maybe there is more to it than I initially thought.

And I never connected the "keep your saves" to this extra flag theory. Those definitely do sync up.

Modifié par Ownaholic, 09 mai 2012 - 05:13 .


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ohupthis wrote...


I try, but it's hard to let outright falsehoods slide sometimes.

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Ownaholic wrote...

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@Makrys
I meant for the file title; I'm still iffy about the plot ID's thing. I think there is plausibility in it, but it's closer to a no in my book. But like I said with some points in the video, "If the evidence works for you, then good!". xD


Why do you think its a no? It seems pretty convincing... 


When I first saw it, I felt the same way. But then my inner-critic came in and was like "NO!". And I can't deny my inner-critic.
But seriously, I just feel like that extra flag could have meant for Shepard's "Breathing" scene to start.
However, it certainly does make sense that it could mean we need a save file in order to contrinue in the ME universe.

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I like that corner. Thanks for the post!


Well... Gamble did say to hold onto our saves!

Annnnd there are 3 plot IDs, not just an 'extra' one. I personally think there is something more to it. The Shep 'breathing' scene should only contain one flag. I see no reason why it would hold 3. Idk.


Fair point. Can't argue against that. I thought there was only 1 extra flag. No idea what the other two would be for.
Maybe there is more to it than I initially thought.

And I never connected the "keep your saves" to this extra flag theory. Those definitely do sync up.


SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE!

Yes, I hold out hope both Gamble's tweet and the plot ID's hold some kind of intertwining substance. As in, maybe there are three actaul main endings to the game that take place after destroy. Maybe there are 3 endings that multiple endings can spur off from based on your choices throughout the game.

See, talking like that just gets me excited. I should probably stop. But... HOOOOOOOOOPE! 

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majinbuu1307 wrote...

This is now a full on religion. Tom Cruise would loveeee to share his ideas.


So is filesharing in Sweden, you want to mock them too?

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balance5050 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

This is now a full on religion. Tom Cruise would loveeee to share his ideas.


So is filesharing in Sweden, you want to mock them too?


I do. :D

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Makrys wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

This is now a full on religion. Tom Cruise would loveeee to share his ideas.


So is filesharing in Sweden, you want to mock them too?


I do. :D


If I had to pick a religion, Filesharer would be it at this point in my life.

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This is awesome. I really wish it were true.

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The boy in the vent is not a hallucination. He is observed by a soldier on the battle field as he runs into the shuttle right before it and him are destroyed. The sounds you claim are indoctrination in this scene also, can be explained. It literally shows a Reaper right outside of the window when Shepard turns toward Anderson. Finally, your point about Shepard's gunshot is just kind of silly. He's literally clutching his left side the entire time after recovering from being hit by the beam. It's entirely likely that the beam is what did this.

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balance5050 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

This is now a full on religion. Tom Cruise would loveeee to share his ideas.


So is filesharing in Sweden, you want to mock them too?


I do. :D


If I had to pick a religion, Filesharer would be it at this point in my life.


Oh... well then.. uh, I didn't mean to offend your religion... I'll just.. uh...

*runs out back door*

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Zuka999 wrote...

This is awesome. I really wish hope it were is true.


Fixed

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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

The boy in the vent is not a hallucination. He is observed by a soldier on the battle field as he runs into the shuttle right before it and him are destroyed. The sounds you claim are indoctrination in this scene also, can be explained. It literally shows a Reaper right outside of the window when Shepard turns toward Anderson. Finally, your point about Shepard's gunshot is just kind of silly. He's literally clutching his left side the entire time after recovering from being hit by the beam. It's entirely likely that the beam is what did this.


I think what sells it about the gunshot is when Anderson is shot, you can pretty clearly hear Shepard grunt as well in the background at the same time.

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Makrys wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

This is now a full on religion. Tom Cruise would loveeee to share his ideas.


So is filesharing in Sweden, you want to mock them too?


I do. :D


If I had to pick a religion, Filesharer would be it at this point in my life.


Oh... well then.. uh, I didn't mean to offend your religion... I'll just.. uh...

*runs out back door*


LOL!

It's ok, if we can't laugh at eachother then what would we laugh at?

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Wonder if the developers have watched this...

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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

The boy in the vent is not a hallucination. He is observed by a soldier on the battle field as he runs into the shuttle right before it and him are destroyed. The sounds you claim are indoctrination in this scene also, can be explained. It literally shows a Reaper right outside of the window when Shepard turns toward Anderson. Finally, your point about Shepard's gunshot is just kind of silly. He's literally clutching his left side the entire time after recovering from being hit by the beam. It's entirely likely that the beam is what did this.


The sound made by the Reaper is a 'growl' and happens RIGHT when Shepard's attention is interrupted. Coincidence? Come. on.

It means the Reapers could not control him. The same happened in one of the novels. A growl is heard when the Reapers cannot maintain control of one of their victims. Why is 'its just a coincidence' more of a compelling argument than evidence of it happening in lore (a book in this case). 

Seriously... anti-ITists, you can do better than that. 

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Kailjaiden wrote...

Wonder if the developers have watched this...


It just came out. I highly doubt it. But I do NOT doubt that at least one of them might give it a view in the future, if it gets enough attention and is brought to their attention enough by the fans.

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Makrys wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...

Wonder if the developers have watched this...


It just came out. I highly doubt it. But I do NOT doubt that at least one of them might give it a view in the future, if it gets enough attention and is brought to their attention enough by the fans.


I've already tweeted it to Sir Hudson and Lady Merizan. So we'll see...

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yay!

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Ownaholic wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...

Wonder if the developers have watched this...


It just came out. I highly doubt it. But I do NOT doubt that at least one of them might give it a view in the future, if it gets enough attention and is brought to their attention enough by the fans.


I've already tweeted it to Sir Hudson and Lady Merizan. So we'll see...


Hudson hasn't been on twitter in weeks. Understandably so... lol

I would shoot it at Weekes and Gamble specifically. They seem to be the most active with the community. Merizan is just a community manager. She doesn't call the shots like the other two (writer and producer)

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balance5050 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

This is now a full on religion. Tom Cruise would loveeee to share his ideas.


So is filesharing in Sweden, you want to mock them too?


I do. :D


If I had to pick a religion, Filesharer would be it at this point in my life.


Oh... well then.. uh, I didn't mean to offend your religion... I'll just.. uh...

*runs out back door*


LOL!

It's ok, if we can't laugh at eachother then what would we laugh at?


Caterpillars. They think they're so f****** pretty when they change into those little winged fluff demons. 

#172
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By the way, the theory is hogwash. It's more contrived than the ending we got.

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From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

By the way, the theory is hogwash. It's more contrived than the ending we got.


That was very informative what with all that evidence and information you backed up your statement with. Impressive.

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balance5050 wrote...

Zuka999 wrote...

This is awesome. I really wish hope it were is true.


Fixed


If you say so! I'm still not convinced this wasn't all just a big accident.

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Amazing job OP buttttttt .....
Starchild:
Watch: www.youtube.com/watch - 2:59 if Shepard is the only one to see the kid
why there is no cutscene showing the starchild running through that door. If Shepard is the only one that sees
him in his mind and Shepard is not watchibg carefully he will miss the starchild running through that door which means that the kid still exists and he still runs through that door without Shepard watching.

As i said before it's better to leave the ending as it is. I'm sure that Bioware will use
IT for the EC which make it more stupid as it's already is.

IT has tons of plot holes already discussed.

Modifié par Grimgaww, 09 mai 2012 - 06:19 .