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[KingZayd]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote... have you been paying attention lately? I've seen like 4 or 5 threads in the last 24 hours, 3 of which deal with how Bioware wouldn't make 1 choice better than the others etc.

I'll admit I haven't, though my opinion about it goes of the first month and a half or so after the release when it was spammed as truth relentlessly.

from what i've seen there are just as many threads trying to tell us why IT can't be true. The one about Vendetta on Thessia keeps being remade.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...the ones where they don't die?

But are made peaceful and help rebuild the galaxy?

What indicates they are rebuilding the galexy?

In my headcanon they totally help rebuild the galaxy, because Shepard tells them to. 

Basically i've turned the biggest threat to the known galaxy into an army of Bob The Builders... SO much more rewarding than just killing them.

[dreman9999]

Lizardviking wrote...

KingZayd wrote...
actually IT predicted an ending DLC where the story would complete. Just because Shepard is compromised doesn't mean the war is lost. His companions are still alive, as are a bunch of other allies. Shepard being indoctrinated means he might hurt the war effort, maybe turning on his friends. Why couldn't someone like Garrus take him down? or Shepard paragon interrupt suicide? Why must Shepard direct everything personally?

The different choices could just lead to varying degrees of success against the the reapers. Maybe control and synthesis would result in different levels fo indoctrination. 

Why would Shepard be the only person capable activating the Crucible in your opinion?

By "failure" I mean negative, which is exactly what IT is. Instead of providing us 3 end choices where none of them are "the right choice" and each contain their merit and reason to be picked. We will reduce it to a simply right or wrong.

Hey, let's totlay side with Mornith...She will never run off.

Let destory the genophage cure, no one will need it.

Let sell Legion to Cerberus, it won't bit us in the end.

Let get Kirahee and Thane killed, it won't matter.

[dreman9999]

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...the ones where they don't die?

But are made peaceful and help rebuild the galaxy?

What indicates they are rebuilding the galexy?

In my headcanon they totally help rebuild the galaxy, because Shepard tells them to. 

Basically i've turned the biggest threat to the known galaxy into an army of Bob The Builders... SO much more rewarding than just killing them.

But that you head cannon...Not what really happens. It' not valid

[KingZayd]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...and how are they made peaceful?

They stopped reaping for one. Unless you know something I don't, I don't see how Control or Synthesis benefited the Reapers. I don't particularly like either one, but they do seem to be the good choices. I just don't see how them living benefits them.

how does us living benefit us?

And we know they stopped reaping, how? And if they did stop, what stops them from starting again?

[PlumPaul93]

dreman9999 wrote...But that you head cannon...Not what really happens. It' not valid

I lol'd especially since this is coming from an IT supporter.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...the ones where they don't die?

But are made peaceful and help rebuild the galaxy?

What indicates they are rebuilding the galexy?

In my headcanon they totally help rebuild the galaxy, because Shepard tells them to. 

Basically i've turned the biggest threat to the known galaxy into an army of Bob The Builders... SO much more rewarding than just killing them.

But that you head cannon...Not what really happens. It' not valid

But IT is headcanon/fan fiction... Not what really happens. It's not valid.

/thread I guess

[balance5050]

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...the ones where they don't die?

But are made peaceful and help rebuild the galaxy?

What indicates they are rebuilding the galexy?

In my headcanon they totally help rebuild the galaxy, because Shepard tells them to. 

Basically i've turned the biggest threat to the known galaxy into an army of Bob The Builders... SO much more rewarding than just killing them.

cool story bro

[PlumPaul93]

dreman9999 wrote... How do you know? What if they left to move the citadel away so that no one can stop their new plans? Also,how do you know if the end was real?

From going off the information given (not theories and beliefs) it's easy to assume the Reapers will help in at least control (since Shepard controls them). Unless Shepard decides to be a dbag and not help they'd obviously help rebuild the galaxy.

Modifié par PlumPaul82393, 09 mai 2012 - 10:18 .

[dreman9999]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...But that you head cannon...Not what really happens. It' not valid

I lol'd especially since this is coming from an IT supporter.

I'm sorry. IT is support by events and facts in the game. His head cannon is not.
Don't believe me....Click this....
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

[jijeebo]

balance5050 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...the ones where they don't die?

But are made peaceful and help rebuild the galaxy?

What indicates they are rebuilding the galexy?

In my headcanon they totally help rebuild the galaxy, because Shepard tells them to. 

Basically i've turned the biggest threat to the known galaxy into an army of Bob The Builders... SO much more rewarding than just killing them.

cool story bro

Cheers, i'm currently in talks with Tim Burton to get a movie on the go.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...But that you head cannon...Not what really happens. It' not valid

I lol'd especially since this is coming from an IT supporter.

I'm sorry. IT is support by events and facts in the game. His head cannon is not.
Don't believe me....Click this....
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

My head canon is supported by the fact that the reapers left after I chose control... Implying that Shepard now controls them and they will do what he wants them to, which can include rebuilding everything.

[balance5050]

jijeebo wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...the ones where they don't die?

But are made peaceful and help rebuild the galaxy?

What indicates they are rebuilding the galexy?

In my headcanon they totally help rebuild the galaxy, because Shepard tells them to. 

Basically i've turned the biggest threat to the known galaxy into an army of Bob The Builders... SO much more rewarding than just killing them.

cool story bro

Cheers, i'm currently in talks with Tim Burton to get a movie on the go.

He's good at comedies.

It's funny because millions of people get indoctrinated, but no one has ever controlled the reapers. Just by probabilty alone it sounds ridiculous.

[dreman9999]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote... How do you know? What if they left to move the citadel away so that no one can stop their new plans? Also,how do you know if the end was real?

From going off the information given (not theories and beliefs) it's easy to assume the Reapers will help in at least control (since Shepard controls them). Unless Shepard decides to be a dbag and not help they'd obviously help rebuild the galaxy.

You not understand what is going on....What does the comment fromthe star child, "Everything you are will die", mean....Think about it. And ask youself this, what guarantees that Shaperd will thingk the same after he is in the system.

[Yaos]

dreman9999 wrote...

Yaos wrote...

NO.
Just, no.
It wouldn't be creative nor clever.

1) incomplete game
2) invalidated closure scenes (anderson and TIM) (how stupid would it have been to see them again after such a scene.)
3) It reduces the already silly number of Starkid choices from 3 to 1.
4) It'd make any 66% people that chose the blue or green ending loose their shepard's story because "they didn't figure it out". Mass Effect is not about these kind of devices
5) "Gotya! All a dream!" scenes are not creative. They're cheap.

1.EC already shows that it is.
2.The concept is that it's a trick...
3.It would change it to 2....To be indoctrinated or not.
4....Or play the end of the game as an indoctrinated agent and having to do a Saren at the end of the game...http://www.youtube.c...pQDE0BcM#t=124s
5.No, it make the ending a "it's all a trick"...What is happening can ether be in Shepards head or a hallutionation of what Shep sees.

Come on. Stop trying so hard. You know your answers are desperate.

1. EC is adding more content to a complete game. What you should have understood is "IT implicates an incomplete storyline in ME3.
2. The trick wouldn't go into depths with the relationship you have with Anderson. You don't have a point, so stop trying.
3. Yeah, because people want to be indoctrinated. Seriously, where are you going with this ?
4. So tell me, who would want to play as a unintentionally character that have been tricked into being bad ? Especially when there's next to 0 clue of the tie between causes and consequences ? That's what I thought.
5. Lol. It's the same exact thing. 

The fact that there is in their theory support that "Red is the only good way to go, the other failed miserably and are indoctrinated" is really revelant of how you treat the non-believers. You think you are elitists of some sort. 
Well, that's not how the game work. There's no trick, no good way to go. In the end, all Shepard dies in a pile of horsecrap.

[dreman9999]

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...But that you head cannon...Not what really happens. It' not valid

I lol'd especially since this is coming from an IT supporter.

I'm sorry. IT is support by events and facts in the game. His head cannon is not.
Don't believe me....Click this....
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

My head canon is supported by the fact that the reapers left after I chose control... Implying that Shepard now controls them and they will do what he wants them to, which can include rebuilding everything.

You not understand what is going on....What does the comment fromthe star child, "Everything you are will die", mean....Think about it. And ask youself this, what guarantees that Shaperd will thingk the same after he is in the system.
You don't even know what they do after they leave.

[jijeebo]

balance5050 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...the ones where they don't die?

But are made peaceful and help rebuild the galaxy?

What indicates they are rebuilding the galexy?

In my headcanon they totally help rebuild the galaxy, because Shepard tells them to. 

Basically i've turned the biggest threat to the known galaxy into an army of Bob The Builders... SO much more rewarding than just killing them.

cool story bro

Cheers, i'm currently in talks with Tim Burton to get a movie on the go.

He's good at comedies.

It's funny because millions of people get indoctrinated, but no one has ever controlled the reapers. Just by probabilty alone it sounds ridiculous.

That's funny because out of all the millions of people who get indoctrinated, none are known to have overcome it or fought it off... Unless they were hooked up to a super-plant which is now extinct. Just by probability alone it sounds ridiculous that Shepard would be able to.

[balance5050]

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...But that you head cannon...Not what really happens. It' not valid

I lol'd especially since this is coming from an IT supporter.

I'm sorry. IT is support by events and facts in the game. His head cannon is not.
Don't believe me....Click this....
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

My head canon is supported by the fact that the reapers left after I chose control... Implying that Shepard now controls them and they will do what he wants them to, which can include rebuilding everything.

What if I told you, that not every scene in the game is literal?

*cough* Geth consensus *cough* *COUGH* dreams. ACK.

[balance5050]

jijeebo wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

He's good at comedies.

It's funny because millions of people get indoctrinated, but no one has ever controlled the reapers. Just by probabilty alone it sounds ridiculous.

That's funny because out of all the millions of people who get indoctrinated, none are known to have overcome it or fought it off... Unless they were hooked up to a super-plant which is now extinct. Just by probability alone it sounds ridiculous that Shepard would be able to.

Rana Thanoptis was able to resist it for years.

Shepard is only resisting it.

Modifié par balance5050, 09 mai 2012 - 10:25 .

[PlumPaul93]

dreman9999 wrote...You not understand what is going on....What does the comment fromthe star child, "Everything you are will die", mean....Think about it. And ask youself this, what guarantees that Shaperd will thingk the same after he is in the system.

If Shepard didn't think the same I'd doubt he'd tell the Reapers to stop reaping (which he did at the end). Not to mention the stargazer scene wouldn't be possible if Shepard lost control of the Reapers (since they'd go back to reaping) and probably kill everything.

Modifié par PlumPaul82393, 09 mai 2012 - 10:25 .

[TeffexPope]

Well even if its not true its creative and clever. But Bioware would have to be cavemen to be too stupid to take that and run with it. If that was their intention, they'd have let us know by now I would think.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...But that you head cannon...Not what really happens. It' not valid

I lol'd especially since this is coming from an IT supporter.

I'm sorry. IT is support by events and facts in the game. His head cannon is not.
Don't believe me....Click this....
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/ 

My head canon is supported by the fact that the reapers left after I chose control... Implying that Shepard now controls them and they will do what he wants them to, which can include rebuilding everything.

You not understand what is going on....What does the comment fromthe star child, "Everything you are will die", mean....Think about it. And ask youself this, what guarantees that Shaperd will thingk the same after he is in the system.
You don't even know what they do after they leave.

It means Shep stops being a human, sacrifices his ability to live his life with his friends and LI, and becomes master of an army of giant cuttlefish... It doesn't mean the essence of Shepard suddenly has different morals.

And no, I don't know... Thats why I headcanon it based on the information presented in the game.

[NoSpin]

Saren was indoctrinated, but made the right choice in the end. If you chose Blue/Green, Shepard's story would continue. You would wake up and experience different dialog choices. And at the end of the game, just like Saren, it would still be possible to make the right choice.

Those of you saying that everyone who didn't choose red are screwed have absolutely zero imagination!

And again, nobody on either side can prove anything. So why is everyone always at each other's throats?

[Drunkenpope]

tbh if IT was true, bioware wouldve said something just after their game took a price drop, the retake movement recieved massive media coverage, employees recieving nasty messages, their MMO started losing players because of this game

when EA's share prices dropped EA prolly wouldve demanded that they state something about it before they took another reputation hit...

if this is their plan all along to say IT was true then it is still too late, too much of the fan base has been made to feel alienated, insulted, left with a feeling of betrayal.

[jijeebo]

balance5050 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

He's good at comedies.

It's funny because millions of people get indoctrinated, but no one has ever controlled the reapers. Just by probabilty alone it sounds ridiculous.

That's funny because out of all the millions of people who get indoctrinated, none are known to have overcome it or fought it off... Unless they were hooked up to a super-plant which is now extinct. Just by probability alone it sounds ridiculous that Shepard would be able to.

Rana Thanoptis was able to resist it for years.

Shepard is only resisting it.

Nothing to imply that she was resisting indoctrination.

Maybe the reapers took their time to indoctrinate her so she could perform a lengthy task?