So if DA3 is set in Orlais...
#26
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 04:35
#27
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 04:40
Maybe because it mostly comes out of the mouth of nobles that are morons and full of themselves?
#28
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 04:43
They generally get actual French actors to voice the characters who aren't supposed to be grating.
Modifié par Face of Evil, 09 mai 2012 - 04:44 .
#29
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 04:45
SavesTheDay wrote...
Why do people hate french accents so much?
Well you are on an English language forum. England and France have a VERY long history of being at war with each other. And while many of us Englsh speakers are Yanks, and once counted France as our first ally, events over the last few decades has pretty much caused us to forget the memory of Lafayette.
And, there is a tradition of making fun of the French language, especially in film. Pepe Le Pew, the Taunting Frenchman in Monty Python are a couple examples used in another thread. It could just be a sign of the times. I think different nationalities all have their moments, in different eras. The Germans have had their moment, at least here in the States. So have the Irish, Scotts and the Poles. In the part of the USA I live in, there are a lot with Scandanavian ancestry, which leads to plenty of Sven and Lena jokes.
At least it means we are still paying attention to the French. Would it be better to be ignored completely? It is human nature to find humor in everything. And if the French (or any nation) is on a people's collective mind, there is sure to be a decent share of good-natured ridicule.
Modifié par Dakota Strider, 09 mai 2012 - 04:47 .
#30
Guest_Begemotka_*
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 04:49
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Actually,I feel the same way about foreigners speaking my language - I love listening to them,and truly,there is no accent that would ever bother me.
My PC speaking Orlesian,though...Well,that is inevitable,if she / he is from Orlais.
I liked Sutekh`s idea a lot,however :
Sutekh wrote...
Made-up French would be even better, like the made-up Spanish / Italian Zevran spoke sometimes.
Or even better, they should go with Old French. Still would sound the part,would be clearly very medieval, and would sound like a foreign languageto French trained ears, so that we all have this feeling of being "not in Ferelden anymore".
Modifié par Begemotka, 09 mai 2012 - 04:52 .
#31
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 05:00
#32
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 05:01
SavesTheDay wrote...
Why do people hate french accents so much?
There's a longstanding animosity between England and France, which several English colonies (such as the USA) have adopted.
#33
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 05:27
#34
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 06:14
#35
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 06:19
#36
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 06:22
Because if they have one thing I hate about both DA games...it's the Orlais accents. They all sound fake and annoying. it grated on me playing Mark of the Assassin. Dragon Age has such great VOs...except Orlais.
If those are not fake accents...then god help us all for DA3.
I think Leliana was French-Canadian and her accent wasn't that bad. Mostly because it sounded natural. Most Orlais accents sound pompous and fake...
Modifié par deuce985, 09 mai 2012 - 06:25 .
#37
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 06:44
#38
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 06:45
Leliana's voice actor was a Parisian living in the UK.deuce985 wrote...
I think Leliana was French-Canadian and her accent wasn't that bad.
#39
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 06:46
If he's Orlesian, I completely agree. The voice needs to match the lore.Maria Caliban wrote...
I'd like my PC to have an Orlesian accent.
In any game design conflict, the lore should always win.
Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 09 mai 2012 - 06:46 .
#40
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:31
John Epler wrote...
I can't speak for all of our voice actors, but Duke Prosper was 100% authentically french.
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I don't know what it is, maybe I just don't like French accents then.
#41
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:37
#42
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:43
John Epler wrote...
I can't speak for all of our voice actors, but Duke Prosper was 100% authentically french.
Though just because you're a native speaker, doesn't mean you're using your actual accent. You're going to deliver what you think your employer wants. Certainly, I doubt the actor playing Duke Prosper thought that they should try to downplay their accent.
See british people on US TV series, for other examples.
#43
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:48
Wulfram wrote...
John Epler wrote...
I can't speak for all of our voice actors, but Duke Prosper was 100% authentically french.
Though just because you're a native speaker, doesn't mean you're using your actual accent. You're going to deliver what you think your employer wants. Certainly, I doubt the actor playing Duke Prosper thought that they should try to downplay their accent.
See british people on US TV series, for other examples.
Yea, I would think Bioware would want the accents a little more natural. They seem a little over-the-top to me, IMO.
In that case, I could probably stand a native speaking french person. It just seems like Orlais accents are out of place in the DA universe. Mostly because they seem fake with such great VOs everywhere else.
#44
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:09
arcelonious wrote...
If the next protagonist is Orlesian (either born or raised there), then I personally would prefer that he or she have a French accent, to keep in line with the lore. I'm American, yet I don't really understand why people hate french accents so much (I grew up in a fairly multicultural environment, so I'm used to hearing all different sorts of accents and languages).
Just because you were born in Orlais does not automatically mean you will have an Orlasian accent. There are numerous ways to get out of that.
It really does depend on the accent. Jean Reno is one that most people are familiar with and he's not grating at all. Part of the problem in DA2 was that the accent seemed played for laughs, being over the top and exagerated. IF that was not the case, then they need a better VA. PC VA's are of generally higher quality anyway.
#45
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:06
#46
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:24
#47
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:37
Windninja47 wrote...
I'm not sure if it is for definite but that is definitely a romour. Do you think the playable character will have the French accent? I think it would be cool if he/she did but I can't imagine that the majority of player would like it.
DA2 was set in the Free Marches and the PC was Fereldan.
But I imagine an Orlesian PC would be voiced appropriately.
#48
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:39
#49
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:47
Richness of accents is fabulous. However, using English accents to create "an ethnic environment" (=a foreign country) is such a cheap choice. I'd rather have my game full of actual spoken French but, unfortunately, that's never going to happen.
Well, I'll keep my hopes up that Orlais is a multicultural hub of Thedas where we'll be able to hear all sorts of accents in addition to the native French one. As far as the PC goes, if voice options are subdued accents like Riordan's and Leliana's were, I can live with it. Generally, I think that the PC should be silent or fairly neutrally voiced. That leaves more room for role-playing.
#50
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:47
The problem arises because strongly French accented characters are, most often, snobbish, aristocratic, or just generally jerkoffs. It is far more often used for Duke Prosper and Isolde type characters than for regular people.
French accents are often considered exotic and appealing when the speaker is perceived as a regular person, rather than a snob.
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