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[Ageless Face]

This is an issue that bugged me ever since Ashley was first revealed to be in ME3. But after doing a playthrough with her (which i haven't even finished, due to my great disappointment), i realised the problem was much more serious than i first thought.

I'll start by saying how much i loved Ashley's character in Mass effect 1. Not only she had a great personality, she was also original. Something that is very missing in games. 
Ashley was a strong soldier, who didn't give a damm about what people thought of her and her looks. While i found her pretty, i definitely didn't think of her as having sexual appereance. The only thing that seemed to me out of place about her is her pink armor. And after putting the pheonix armor on Wrex and Garrus, it didn't really bothered me much.
Ashley's personality was great. She and Kaidan were two out of a few (If not the only ones) squadmates that gave political statements. Even if you don't agree with her, She still brought interesting viewpoints to the ones that listened. The best thing was about her, She wasn't there to please the player with utter adoration to Sheaprd. She wasn't loyal to Shepard and indifferent about his/her actions, And was definitely not Shepard's puppet. Again, one of the few squadmates which had that quality. Ashley williams was one of my favorite squadmates, and what i saw as one of the best written characters in the Mass Effect series.

I'll bet most of you now know where i'm going with this.

starting with the obvious: Ashley's looks. 
Makeup? I can handle it. You barley see a woman this days without an eyeshadow. In the future i don't see much difference.

Hair? I wouldn't have so much of a problem of it wasn't out of character. I mean, it seems no one will give a damm about hair regulations in the future (Defualt femshep is a great example) But still... why did she need to loosen her hair? maybe fix the bun, but getting rid of it entirely? don't really see the reason.  

Armor? Completly ridicules. Why would the artists do that!? You are making an outfits for the woman who used to wear heavy armor for god's sake! Why giving her such a tight and completly unbulletproof clothes? She isn't Miranda. She can't perfectly dodge from gunfire. Or making a biotic bubble like Jack or Samara. And she is not made out of metal!!! I really wanted my maleshep to laugh at her face when she said to him "I wear armor to battle, not swimmwear".

But you know, i could have gotten over it. It would have been hard, but i could. Then Bioware dropped the second bomb which really made me despise her writer. The annoying fact she wasn't anymore someone that would say "i'm okay" when getting hurt. I don't think i heard her say a sarcastic comment even once throughout the game.
It can be argued that she has her reasons. She is worried about her family, She don't have time to make funny comments. But is she that much of a mess that she will completely forget she has to serve the next day and get totally drunk? That much of a mess that it's looks like she is going to burst into tears every second? No!
Her family had suffred for a long time of a bad reputation. But it's only driven her more to prove herself. You'd think her sister's dead husband and the loss of so many humans will only make her more determind, not depressed. 

Now when i think of Ashely i see her as two diffrent characters. An alliance soldier or an alliance cheerleader. To be honest i believe i perfer the cerberus's cheerleader. At least she had a personality.

Sorry for the rant, But it really bothered me. Did anyone felt the same about her? Or am i being too picky here? did anyone actually thought it suited her characterism and maybe i read her wrong? 
 

Modifié par HagarIshay, 09 mai 2012 - 01:50 .

[Karrie788]

You're not alone. I absolutely loved the way Ash was written in ME1, she was my favorite with Wrex. Yes, she had flaws, but hey, flawed characters are much more interesting than perfect ones anyway.

I remember cringing so hard when her new look was revealed before ME3's release. It doesn't suit her at all. I mean, she's the one telling ManShep in ME1 that she wasn't the type to wear skirts. But I kept telling to myself that if they wrote her just as well as they did in ME1, I could get over it pretty easily. I hate Miranda's butt shots for instance but I absolutely love her character. If they pulled the same thing with Ash, it would be ok.

And then ME3 came out, and Ashley's character was shafted. She had a cool BFF vibe with my Shep in ME1. And yet now she keeps distrusting her about the whole Cerberus thing (I think Kaidan handles it much better although it still makes my eyes roll), gets drunk by herself, stuck in her part of the ship which she never seems to leave after getting on board? I didn't find the drunk scene funny btw, I thought it was pathetic.

I definitely miss ME1's Ash. I actually virmired her in my newest playthrough so I wouldn't have to witness her character's assassination again.

/rant

[CptData]

Well ... basically yeah.

Ash was great in ME1, the best written character for me and one of my all-time favorites as well.
In ME2, she only had a just cameo.

And in ME3? Well: first half was great. Romance scenes were good too. But if you substract the romance plot from Ashley's character, there's no Ash anymore. She's gone. In ME1 she was a good friend to fem!Shep, a sister in arms, someone you could trust with your life. In ME3 she's ... just there, lingering in her room, gazing the stars. Does not talk to Shepard at all, is unusually silent in the missions.

I have some headcanon stuff working to explain her sudden change in character. But fact is: Ash was decent in ME1, had some good scenes in the first half of ME3 but got punished by a major let down by the writers in the second half. As I said before: if you remove Ashley's romance ('cause you have a fem!Shep or used to have Ash as a friend only), there's nothing left of her. Just another NPC.

For me it's not about the looks. I can handle this.
It's more her lack of interaction in the second half of ME3.

For a character, that got so heavy promotion (CGI trailer for BOTH Shepards, own action figure, poster character), she got little screen time in ME3. For a new player, there's no chance to hook up with Ashley.

[CrutchCricket]

Answering your concerns OP, in no particular order:
-You can make her wear armor if you want and she does wear armor by default on Mars.
- I imagine the war's taking its toll on everyone and only Joker (and Kasumi) can maintain their snark in the face of such tragedy
-Didn't Vega get her drunk? Blame him. The scene wasn't as good because a) it was at the hangover stage which sucks for all involved and Tali did it better for the simple reason of not a).
-If femShep doesn't give a damn about hair regulations why should she?

That being said I will say Ash did not get the triumphant return we were promised. Having her onboard the ship serves no purpose at all.

[CptData]

Crutch:

Well, in one case I'm wrong. I constantly tell Ash had nearly no lines in the missions - which is wrong. It heavily depends with whom you bring Ash into the field. If you pick Garrus ... well, Garrus must have something that tags him as "primary speaker". He takes all the lines. It does not happen (surprisingly) with Liara or any other character ... ?

So Ash + Garrus means Ash doesn't talk that much.
Which is sad, since I love to use Ash & Garrus in a squad.

[Ageless Face]

CptData wrote...

Well ... basically yeah.

Ash was great in ME1, the best written character for me and one of my all-time favorites as well.
In ME2, she only had a just cameo.

And in ME3? Well: first half was great. Romance scenes were good too. But if you substract the romance plot from Ashley's character, there's no Ash anymore. She's gone. In ME1 she was a good friend to fem!Shep, a sister in arms, someone you could trust with your life. In ME3 she's ... just there, lingering in her room, gazing the stars. Does not talk to Shepard at all, is unusually silent in the missions.

I have some headcanon stuff working to explain her sudden change in character. But fact is: Ash was decent in ME1, had some good scenes in the first half of ME3 but got punished by a major let down by the writers in the second half. As I said before: if you remove Ashley's romance ('cause you have a fem!Shep or used to have Ash as a friend only), there's nothing left of her. Just another NPC.

For me it's not about the looks. I can handle this.
It's more her lack of interaction in the second half of ME3.

For a character, that got so heavy promotion (CGI trailer for BOTH Shepards, own action figure, poster character), she got little screen time in ME3. For a new player, there's no chance to hook up with Ashley.

So i'm not the only one who thought of that? I kind of see the same for Kaidan, But with even smaller number of interactions with Ashley (And one of them is, as i said, getting drunk) I really don't see where Shepard and Ashley suppose to be the great friends Bioware claims they are (when starting a new game with a dead Kaidan, that is). I don't mind her pointing the gun at Shepard. With the mistrust that had been shown in ME2 and the first half of ME3 it's understandable. But at least give Ashley and Kaidan something other than "The woman/man who yelled at me in ME2 and pointed a gun at Shepard in ME3". 

To me it really looks like Bioware didn't have enough time/ will/ money/ etc to make something big for the VS in ME2, so they made their rolles very little and ones that made people very angry. And since people didn't seem to like them very much by now, well... they gave us this. But at least they didn't change Kaidan from the person he is. So why Ashley?

CrutchCricket wrote...

Answering your concerns OP, in no particular order:
-You can make her wear armor if you want and she does wear armor by default on Mars.
- I imagine the war's taking its toll on everyone and only Joker (and Kasumi) can maintain their snark in the face of such tragedy
-Didn't Vega get her drunk? Blame him. The scene wasn't as good because a) it was at the hangover stage which sucks for all involved and Tali did it better for the simple reason of not a).
-If femShep doesn't give a damn about hair regulations why should she?

That being said I will say Ash did not get the triumphant return we were promised. Having her onboard the ship serves no purpose at all.

 

 -she still wears the  outfit even while not on missions. To be honest that whats really bothering me. And the armor is a light one (i think). Like i said, she wore heavy armor. 
-I know it takes a toll on everyone. I get it that people change. But Jack also changed. She didn't transformed into a hole new character. 
-Vega didn't forced her to be drunk. And a behavior like that i would imagine to be James's. Not Ashley.
-I guess i should not have made the comment on the hair and be a hypocrite when i'm using the defualt femshep hair myself. But It just seemed out of character when Ashely used to wear a bun that yelled "i don't give a damm." 

Modifié par HagarIshay, 09 mai 2012 - 02:59 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Ashley in ME3 came off as an unloyal ally and a terrible friend, she feels more like an imposter than an older version of the Ash I liked in ME1.

[Lucky Thirteen]

I agree with everything you've said about Ashley. I think that after ME1, there was social gender backlash that Ashley wasn't feminine enough. I was playing on MP a few days before ME3, and when the guys in the group brought up the subject of Ashley I said I would be fine with her look if she was still the same in personality. They tore my head off saying she was dressing how women should and hopefully her personality changed to how women should behave. I was so pissed off I just left after that.

Then it turned out Ashley wasn't quite the same anymore. She doesn't seem to be to the extreme of suddenly behaving like Tali and Liara, she doesn't seem ubber feminine all of the sudden but the fact she gets completely smashed like Tali has me disturbed and wondering why Kaidan and Garrus with all their talk of drinking never get that depressed.

Part of it though I blame on Chris L'etoile leaving do to what I assume was artistic differences and change of direction. I'm not really blaming him, I'm blaming his bosses intent that made him want to leave. Not only did his character Ashley get ruined, but Legion, EDI, and Thane were all altered, ruined, and/or shafted for ME3.

I've created this story in my head that Bioware presented L'etoile a few pictures of the "new" Ashley look, what direction they wanted to go with Legion and EDI, and he fought it but then ended up quitting. Then they just didn't know what to hell to do with Thane other than to just kill him.

[CptData]

My little theory in that field is, HagarIshay:

Since most romantic content got written and introduced at a very late stage of game development (end of 2011 !!!), I'd say Ashley simply got the unlucky "last minute treatment". They added the romantic arc (which is well done) but missed to add the friendship arc. Check out Garrus or Vega and you know what I was expecting for Ashley in second half. I don't play fem!Sheps but I know several guys who do and kept Ashley for "sister in battle friendship moments".

Same did happen to Kaidan. Kaidan and Ashley got complete romance arcs which are well done. But they lack everything else, the friendly interaction that doubles as "fluff" for the romance and hook-up for those who didn't romance them but kept them on board.


For the records:

It's kinda awkward, ME1!Ashley didn't had that much "feminine looks" but had a far more feminine behavior once you know her better. However, she was still very attractive (and still is to me).
In ME3 she has the feminine looks but lacks the feminine personality she had (friendship level). Even in the romance she feels not overly feminine - of course, she's a passionate woman and such - but the way she's going after Shepard is less feminine than in ME1.

Modifié par CptData, 09 mai 2012 - 02:57 .

[CrutchCricket]

CptData wrote...

Crutch:

Well, in one case I'm wrong. I constantly tell Ash had nearly no lines in the missions - which is wrong. It heavily depends with whom you bring Ash into the field. If you pick Garrus ... well, Garrus must have something that tags him as "primary speaker". He takes all the lines. It does not happen (surprisingly) with Liara or any other character ... ?

So Ash + Garrus means Ash doesn't talk that much.
Which is sad, since I love to use Ash & Garrus in a squad.

Didn't notice lines in the field as much, though after all the crap she gives me about Cerberus and Miranda, her lines (or lack thereof) at Sanctuary were woefully inadequate. I used Ashley a lot because by random chance I gave her squad disruptor ammo with the bonus capacity increase so I always had that on for the extra ammo.

However on the ship it was 100% click to talk like Kasumi and not even as interesting.  Not sure if that's different if you keep up the romance with her but that doesn't excuse it. She had no purpose there (especially since I found out I can get the extra ammo with any squad ammo power if I upgrade it the same)

[Ageless Face]

CptData wrote...

My little theory in that field is, HagarIshay:

Since most romantic content got written and introduced at a very late stage of game development (end of 2011 !!!), I'd say Ashley simply got the unlucky "last minute treatment". They added the romantic arc (which is well done) but missed to add the friendship arc. Check out Garrus or Vega and you know what I was expecting for Ashley in second half. I don't play fem!Sheps but I know several guys who do and kept Ashley for "sister in battle friendship moments".

Same did happen to Kaidan. Kaidan and Ashley got complete romance arcs which are well done. But they lack everything else, the friendly interaction that doubles as "fluff" for the romance and hook-up for those who didn't romance them but kept them on board.


For the records:

It's kinda awkward, ME1!Ashley didn't had that much "feminine looks" but had a far more feminine behavior once you know her better. However, she was still very attractive (and still is to me).
In ME3 she has the feminine looks but lacks the feminine personality she had (friendship level). Even in the romance she feels not overly feminine - of course, she's a passionate woman and such - but the way she's going after Shepard is less feminine than in ME1.

Guess you got some points. It's just sad that people waited much more time for the return of Ashley and Kaidan (these two were my favorite squadmates) and then they got much less together than Garrus. Kaidan's And Ashely's romance plots can't even kiss Liara's romance's feet. 

And Just for your records:

I also saw Ashley as attractive. ME3 proves that. Just not sexual (though maybe because i am a girl). 
In ME3 i kind of felt Shepard needed to almost force himself on Ashley. Giving her a long speech why they should be together, even if romanced before. In ME1 it felt like they just... fell for each other. Flirting here and there,  which became something far greater. To be honest i see the ME1 personality as much more feminine. something you need to search, not see in your eyes. 

Damm it i feel kitchy right now.

[CptData]

Hagar: don't feel like that.

Ash simply has something that attracts men and women alike (or you hate her with passion -.- )

Think she was tomboyish in appearance in ME1 - but you also could easily see she was a very attractive woman. Her character appeared to be rough at the beginning. Once knowing her better and you realized she was a kind and very feminine person (family orientated: being the eldest of four sisters, loving her dad, ...) with very feminine desires as well: romance, love, passion.

In ME3 she still is quite passionate but somehow feels less feminine when going after it. I can't point my finger at it. It's also not that visible or distracting, but it's there. However, the lack of interaction outside the romance arc is disturbing. I really enjoyed the fun of Ash/Shepard in ME1, it made their love very authentic.
In ME3, that part is missing. They care for each other but it's not shown outside the romance scenes. Which is a real issue to me.

Could say: ME1!Ash was attractive to me 'cause of her deep character.
ME3!Ash is still attractive - but lacks the deepness.

IRL, I would only go after ME1!Ash, but not ME3!Ash. I feel incredible attracted to deep women ...

[MACharlie1]

At first when we saw Ashley - I wasn't concerned. Okay - it's obviously a casual outfit - Bioware wouldn't be so senseless then to have her go out into combat with that on. The hair...didn't bother me THAT much but I feel like it should have been at least in a loose poneytail (or a braid like in her concept art) if they wanted to have it long. But I guess it was pretty.

They dropped the ball with Ashley when game shipped however. Nearly no dialog. Absolutely no dialog on the Normandy except for romanced Ashley. And even her one liners were bland and unoriginal that could connect to anything. Its like they didn't have time to get Kimberly Brooks in the studio.

Her armor....you can tell that it was a rush job. It is a ported FemShep armor from ME2 with a retexture. They were originally going to use her jacket outfit as her armor! You can tell - her CE is a reskin of the jacket. Why use that instead of the armor? Because it was last minute. They realized that they goofed and had to make a quick armor for her. Why would Kaidan get a unique set of armor but not Ash? How is Ash's jacket more combat ready then Vega's t-shirt?

[xAmilli0n]

Ash's change in personality from ME1 to ME3 is quite striking, and her lack of meaningful dialogue aboard the Normandy is disappointing. As for her appearance, lets just say I'd pay for DLC that puts her hair in a bun, and changes her casual outfit to the standard uniform.

Most of my playthroughs originally were to have Ash as the VS, but after playing ME3, I switched most to Kaidan, mainly because Ash feels so out of place now. Its a bit of a shame, she was definitely favorite character and LI ME1.

[akenn312]

I romanced Ashley in ME 1 and Miranda in ME 2 and I felt like the change in both characters was Bioware trying to even out the things done in ME 2. I'm pretty sure the majority male Sheps romanced Miranda after Ash dumps them at least once. Putting all the Miranda butt shots aside, Miranda was attractive, intelligent and one of the most capable women in ME2. Ashley was demoted from this strong female fellow solider that you loved, to this cute but immature girl that dumped you for being dead? Huh?

At the end of ME 2 Miranda is the attractive Cerberus cheerleader, loyal, strong & sexy femme fatal that loved you and came up to your cabin to cuddle every night, so my conspiracy theory goes that they had to make Ash competition again for Miranda's great ME 2 romance. So in ME 3 Ash gets a little sexy makeover and is now the Alliance cheerleader, attractive, loyal eventually, strong & sexy femme fatal but still a tomboy. What made me a little ticked is that I wanted both characters to kinda remain true to their original theme so I could choose independently and feel my choice was unique… not be subtlety suggested though auto dialog, "Well the Lt. Commander has become quite capable". As if saying Ash is now up to par with Miranda so why not get back with her? Miranda is off somewhere else. To much auto guiding to romance certain people in this game.

I wanted to really see the Tomboy vs. Cheerleader showdown.? But unfortunately they turned Ash into a cheerleader to get her Shepard. I am not a Ash hater at all. I like both women and wanted two independant playthorughs one where Shep rekindled the Ash relationship one where he sticks with Miranda. But both romances feel wrong though because I dont feel im getting the real Ash or Miranda in the game.

[Ageless Face]

  

CptData wrote...

Think she was tomboyish in appearance in ME1 - but you also could easily see she was a very attractive woman. Her character appeared to be rough at the beginning. Once knowing her better and you realized she was a kind and very feminine person (family orientated: being the eldest of four sisters, loving her dad, ...) with very feminine desires as well: romance, love, passion.


IRL, I would only go after ME1!Ash, but not ME3!Ash. I feel incredible attracted to deep women ...

 

Damm it it's just make me love her even more. They ruined what could have been their greatest character of all their games. they really should have developed her more, or beg for L'etoile to come back. I really think her charictrism was the best. 
Funny thing is, Shepard constetly saying how much he loved her additude and strength, when she is not giving us much to go on im ME3. 

xAmilli0n wrote...

Ash's change in personality from ME1 to ME3 is quite striking, and her lack of meaningful dialogue aboard the Normandy is disappointing. As for her appearance, lets just say I'd pay for DLC that puts her hair in a bun, and changes her casual outfit to the standard uniform.

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I would pay that with you. Unless i will find out that what they wanted all along. Her fans to pay for alterantive outfits that were supposed to be there in the first place. Then... i would pay for that anyway. But with being more pissed off about it.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

I think the writers struggle a bit to make human characters interesting. VS from ME1 were among my favorite characters in the series, but both were all but forgettable in ME3.

Vega was an improvement over the last human male soldier (Jacob in ME2, who had basically 0 story or c.d.) but even he got a little stale after a while. Miranda didn't really grow between 2 & 3 and was never that well developed outside of being a test-tube baby.

I'd say their best ones were Zaeed and Kasumi. Interestingly, both DLC characters. And I'd say Jack is well-done too, but her kind of character is not exactly original. They put both VS at a disadvantage by sidelining them for half the game. When they did get back, they were an afterthought.

I thought with Kaidan in particular, they should have talked about how he's gone from Staff-Lt. to Major and Spectre in 3 short years, reflect on him as a leader. They could have also talked about what he was doing while Shep was dead/with Cerberus, they could have given both VS some interesting stories right there.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

My canon Shep didn't really get along that well with Ashley so when they didn't talk so much in ME3 it kind of made sense. But my newest Shep got on really well with her in ME1, they went on every mission together and go plenty of chance to chat on the Normandy. I was crushed when Ash was mad at Shep in ME2 (in my other playthrough it had just pissed me off). Even though they're friends again in ME3 it isn't the same as their ME1 friendship.

Her outfit is pretty silly. Annoyingly it has the 25% weapon bonus I wanted her to have, so its either that outfit or the one with the stupid glasses. Did make me laugh that Ash was wearing a catsuit and heels on a mission while Liara and Shepard (infiltrator) wore heavy armour. I wasn't fussed on Ashley's new hairstyle. I liked Ashley's bun, it wasn't as impressive as Janeway's bun but no one can beat Janeway's bun.

Ashley does make a few sarcastic remarks still, like about the Geth. Taking her to Thessia was good, she had chance to be compassionate and sarcastic all in one mission.

[Omega Torsk]

I like her new appearance (including her hairstyle) and her new armor. No complaints there.

The only thing I don't like is how little interaction you get with her after she's recruited, again.

[CptData]

HagarIshay wrote...

 Damm it it's just make me love her even more. They ruined what could have been their greatest character of all their games. they really should have developed her more, or beg for L'etoile to come back. I really think her charictrism was the best. 
Funny thing is, Shepard constetly saying how much he loved her additude and strength, when she is not giving us much to go on im ME3.

Wasn't L'etoile a guy? (If spelling is correct ^^)

Doesn't matter. I dunno if you check the Ash fan thread sometimes or checked the group in my sig. There are some guys and girls who have a pretty accurate picture of Ashley and could do the writing for her on a quite high level too. Okay, maybe because those guys are fans. ^^


Right now, ME3!Ash has a great first half of the game (hands down: her dialogues in the hospital are good and a great hook up). The only disappointing portion is the second half of the game, as soon as Ash is back. That's a huge let down.

I know the leaks really good and know several stuff got cut and reduced. For example Ash and Shepard had few lines dealing with Ashley's new hair - I think it was meant to be part of the date. However, it never made it into the game. Actually, I think Ashley's date ends a bit too quickly - cut content? She's also no longer on the Citadel for small talk, like Liara or Vega ...

[dahellraider]

I agree with everything CptData says. (Runs and hides before people realize I'm one of those ash fans Cpt was talking about)

[Ageless Face]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

I think the writers struggle a bit to make human characters interesting. VS from ME1 were among my favorite characters in the series, but both were all but forgettable in ME3.

Vega was an improvement over the last human male soldier (Jacob in ME2, who had basically 0 story or c.d.) but even he got a little stale after a while. Miranda didn't really grow between 2 & 3 and was never that well developed outside of being a test-tube baby.

I'd say their best ones were Zaeed and Kasumi. Interestingly, both DLC characters. And I'd say Jack is well-done too, but her kind of character is not exactly original. They put both VS at a disadvantage by sidelining them for half the game. When they did get back, they were an afterthought.

I thought with Kaidan in particular, they should have talked about how he's gone from Staff-Lt. to Major and Spectre in 3 short years, reflect on him as a leader. They could have also talked about what he was doing while Shep was dead/with Cerberus, they could have given both VS some interesting stories right there.

You know, this kind of talk with Kaidan would be interesting. I found it odd Kaidan talked all the time about his care for his students and not expanding more about how he got to actually be a teacher more than a few sentences. Really, was Kaidan or Ashley ever talked about their lives after Sheprad was killed? I remember Kaidan mentioning that from some reason he got to where he is thanks to Sheaprd. Not even explaining why. I know it's obvious, but i would still like to hear about it just the same.

CptData wrote... 

Wasn't L'etoile a guy? (If spelling is correct ^^)

 

Meant that Ashely was a great character. sorry my writing is not very orginized.

And yes i do sometimes lurk into the thread, though never write anything. 

And there are cut contents?! Guess i should really check it out. 

Modifié par HagarIshay, 09 mai 2012 - 08:06 .

[SilentK]

CptData wrote...

Crutch:

Well, in one case I'm wrong. I constantly tell Ash had nearly no lines in the missions - which is wrong. It heavily depends with whom you bring Ash into the field. If you pick Garrus ... well, Garrus must have something that tags him as "primary speaker". He takes all the lines. It does not happen (surprisingly) with Liara or any other character ... ?

So Ash + Garrus means Ash doesn't talk that much.
Which is sad, since I love to use Ash & Garrus in a squad.

Thank you for that little piece of info   =)    I want as much Asn-banter as possible with my FemShep.

Oki... Garrus will be spending a little more time calibrating this time. Ahh... well, I don't think it will hurt him  

Modifié par SilentK, 09 mai 2012 - 09:09 .

[CptData]

I think I share that one with you guys ...

5 hours of epic music nonstop

I listen to stuff like that while creating my Ashley headcanon. And Ashley headcanon is needed to stay faithful to her *g*

[ReallyRue]

I felt the same way. It seemed like a lot of her personality was lost in ME3, and the only bit that really stayed was her love for her family. But that humorous, friendly, tell-it-like-it-is side of her was effectively gone.

I don't think it helped that she had a lot of interaction prior to Tuchanka, she has quite a few conversations with Shep, but then afterwards, there are only one or two. And she doesn't interact with any of the rest of the crew. Even Kaidan talks to others sometimes over the intercom thing, or plays cards with James at one point.