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[balance5050]

jijeebo wrote...

111987 wrote...

Silpheed58 wrote...

111987 wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

111987 wrote...

Control has all the advantages of Destroy, plus more, with no disadvantages besides the destruction of the Relays (which is less of a blow with the Reapers still around), which of course happens anyways.

The disadvantage is that you become the next indoctrinated starbrat, whose sole purpose is to convince the hero of the next cycle to build the crucible of the advantages of replacing you.

You have total control over the Reapers, not the other way around. Shep isn't indoctrinated in Control; if anything, Shep indoctrinates the Reapers.

For all over a minute.

What? Says who? You're just making things up now.

People have a habit of jumping to conslusions and making things up when it comes to control.

You have no choice but to make things up when it comes to control, it shows the reapers leaving Earth. THATS IT. and why does the blue reaper control wave screw up up the Normandy?

Modifié par balance5050, 10 mai 2012 - 12:09 .

[PrimeOfValor]

Whatever it takes, man, destory!!!

[xsdob]

Fingertrip wrote...

Alot by the look of things. Didn't play prior Mass Effect games probably, but they're welcome to the series and the world tho- can't get it right the first time! =)

You know it's posters like you who give anitending forum users a bad name, because that post says your both elitest and a ******.

[xsdob]

jpraelster93 wrote...

Any onewho believes ANYTHING THE STARIDIOT SAYS isnt a real fan

You  are also jerks, other people are free to choose other things, calling their status as fans into the mix is the lowest thing to do.

It is the same as fox news and their 'anti-american' list for people who they don't agree with.

Modifié par xsdob, 10 mai 2012 - 12:16 .

[incinerator950]

Thankfully when I pulled the all nighter to finish ME 3, I was more then coherent to understand the slides where TIM and Anderson where standing.

[Joe1962]

The kid lied.

Destroy. First, last and always.

My Shep will always live. ;-)

[xsdob]

Well, looks like I've overstayed my welcome and raged against 2 posters in this insulting thread, I'll just leave before this turns ugly.

[jijeebo]

balance5050 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

111987 wrote...

Silpheed58 wrote...

111987 wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

111987 wrote...

Control has all the advantages of Destroy, plus more, with no disadvantages besides the destruction of the Relays (which is less of a blow with the Reapers still around), which of course happens anyways.

The disadvantage is that you become the next indoctrinated starbrat, whose sole purpose is to convince the hero of the next cycle to build the crucible of the advantages of replacing you.

You have total control over the Reapers, not the other way around. Shep isn't indoctrinated in Control; if anything, Shep indoctrinates the Reapers.

For all over a minute.

What? Says who? You're just making things up now.

People have a habit of jumping to conslusions and making things up when it comes to control.

You have no choice but to make things up when it comes to control, it shows the reapers leaving Earth. THATS IT. and why does the blue reaper control wave screw up up the Normandy?

Thats not a control specific issue though, all three endings are irritatingly vague when it comes to post-crucible reaper activity.

My thing is that there isn't any more evidence to suggest that control won't work than there is to suggest that destroy won't work.

And i'm guessing the wave screws with the reaper IFF or something, idk. Maybe Jokers just a terrible pilot.

[CubeDaily]

jijeebo wrote...
And i'm guessing the wave screws with the reaper IFF or something, idk. Maybe Jokers just a terrible pilot.

Haha, how many people totally forgot about that? I don't think anyone ever asked if that was taken off the ship by the Alliance. 

Maybe that's why Joker had to book?

[Hadeedak]

I don't quite get how you indoctrinate software, which Control-Shep may be. At any rate, s/he's not a squishy human anymore, after being dissolved. And it WORKS, because reapers leave, happy message. In fact, she may be more resistant to manipulation than she ever was when fleshy, if you assume Shepard goes on in some form instead of just throwing out a "NOT OK" signal that makes the reapers leave.

Hah, vagueness and headcanon.

[Hadeedak]

CubeDaily wrote...

jijeebo wrote...
And i'm guessing the wave screws with the reaper IFF or something, idk. Maybe Jokers just a terrible pilot.

Haha, how many people totally forgot about that? I don't think anyone ever asked if that was taken off the ship by the Alliance. 

Maybe that's why Joker had to book?

...

That is a good point. Hmm. 

[TSA_383]

CubeDaily wrote...

jijeebo wrote...
And i'm guessing the wave screws with the reaper IFF or something, idk. Maybe Jokers just a terrible pilot.

Haha, how many people totally forgot about that? I don't think anyone ever asked if that was taken off the ship by the Alliance. 

Maybe that's why Joker had to book?

Damn that'd be a hilarious reason

[jijeebo]

CubeDaily wrote...

jijeebo wrote...
And i'm guessing the wave screws with the reaper IFF or something, idk. Maybe Jokers just a terrible pilot.

Haha, how many people totally forgot about that? I don't think anyone ever asked if that was taken off the ship by the Alliance. 

Maybe that's why Joker had to book?

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if EC rolled with something like that:

EDI: Jeff, analysis indicates that the Crucible may have an effect on the Normandys systems due to the IFF.
Joker: What the s***, we didn't take it out?
EDI: It would appear not.
Joker: No time to get back to earth safely... **** **** ****.
EDI: I would recommend evasive action.
Joker: But, what about Shepard?
EDI: Even if we could, there is insufficient time remaining to safely retrieve him, activation of the Crucible is imminent.
Joker: Crap... Let's go then.

*Joker flees*
*People are hopefully a little less angry about him leaving*

It still sucks, but it would be a bit better.

Modifié par jijeebo, 10 mai 2012 - 12:36 .

[CubeDaily]

Hadeedak wrote...

CubeDaily wrote...

jijeebo wrote...
And i'm guessing the wave screws with the reaper IFF or something, idk. Maybe Jokers just a terrible pilot.

Haha, how many people totally forgot about that? I don't think anyone ever asked if that was taken off the ship by the Alliance. 

Maybe that's why Joker had to book?

...

That is a good point. Hmm. 

It actually makes a decent amount of sense. Especially if Control-Shep is a dick:

http://social.biowar...4372/2#11755383

Check the image by Hyrule_Gal!

Modifié par CubeDaily, 10 mai 2012 - 12:36 .

[jpraelster93]

Lol to the people who believes starchild when he says all sythentics will die

[ref]

Even if IT isn't the real deal, I still like Destroy the best.

Synthesis and Control can go back to Deus Ex.

[jijeebo]

CubeDaily wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

CubeDaily wrote...

jijeebo wrote...
And i'm guessing the wave screws with the reaper IFF or something, idk. Maybe Jokers just a terrible pilot.

Haha, how many people totally forgot about that? I don't think anyone ever asked if that was taken off the ship by the Alliance. 

Maybe that's why Joker had to book?

...

That is a good point. Hmm. 

It actually makes a decent amount of sense. Especially if Control-Shep is a dick:

http://social.biowar...4372/2#11755383

Check the image by Hyrule_Gal!

The first time I saw that image I just sat there for about 10 minutes laughing.

[xsdob]

If your going to doubt everything about control and synthesis why not doubt destroy as well?

I purpose the 'heating vent' theory here, that the catalyst lied about destroy and that the tube was merely part of the citadels cooling systems. When shepard shot it the pressurized gas in the tube reacted to the room temperature air, resulting in a massive pressurized explosion that killed or seriously injured shepard, the rest of the cutscene is a severe concussion induced hallucination in shepards head.

With a high enough ems shepard can manage to wake up in the debris of the tubes explosion and pick from the other 2 trap options.

Modifié par xsdob, 10 mai 2012 - 12:43 .

[bahamutomega]

 Control = trusting the Illusive Man...  really?  you trust him?  you trust star-idiot?
oh...  and for the record, in ALL endings the relays are toasted.  you can watch all three movies side by side in YouTube - in each one, the relay in frame disintegrates with a red/green/blue filter over it depending on your choice.

Synthesis = trusting Saren...  really?  you trust him?  you trust star-idiot?
for the record...  digital DNA is a contradiction in terms.  DNA is organic.  TRON has a better explanation for digital DNA than this synthesis crap.

Destroy = everything everyone has been fighting for.  EDI and the geth have both shown their willingness to sacrifice themselves to end the Reaper threat.  so IF you believe the star-idiot, then yes, the geth and EDI are destroyed.

only one problem with that - why the little "half breath" sequence following the Destroy choice?

oh... wait a second...  BECAUSE NONE OF IT REALLY HAPPENED!  it was all in Shepard's head!

Control = don't wake up because controlled by Reapers
Synthesis = don't wake up because controlled by Reapers
Destroy = wake up because NOT controlled by Reapers

set in stone permanently?  not at all

but makes much more sense than the **** at face value.

[Geneaux486]

ShepnTali wrote...
But there should have been more grilling. Shepard grills everybody and everything, sometimes to the point of boredom. Something's missing here for him to accept anything other than destroy, so fast. That's every Shepard. 

Shepard was wounded, allies were still being killed by Reapers, best interest to speed the process along as much as possible.

[jijeebo]

xsdob wrote...

If your going to doubt everything about control and synthesis why not doubt destroy as well?

I purpose the 'heating vent' theory here, that the catalyst lied about destroy and that the tube was merely part of the citadels cooling systems. When shepard shot it the pressurized gas in the tube reacted to the room temperature air, resulting in a massive pressurized explosion that killed or seriously injured shepard, the rest of the cutscene is a severe concussion induced hallucination in shepards head.

With a high enough ems shepard can manage to wake up in the debris of the tubes explosion and pick from the other 2 trap options.

I'd lol.

[Hadeedak]

In control, when you're watching the endings side by side, they don't explode. Just fizzle.

[xsdob]

bahamutomega wrote...

 Control = trusting the Illusive Man...  really?  you trust him?  you trust star-idiot?
oh...  and for the record, in ALL endings the relays are toasted.  you can watch all three movies side by side in YouTube - in each one, the relay in frame disintegrates with a red/green/blue filter over it depending on your choice.

Synthesis = trusting Saren...  really?  you trust him?  you trust star-idiot?
for the record...  digital DNA is a contradiction in terms.  DNA is organic.  TRON has a better explanation for digital DNA than this synthesis crap.

Destroy = everything everyone has been fighting for.  EDI and the geth have both shown their willingness to sacrifice themselves to end the Reaper threat.  so IF you believe the star-idiot, then yes, the geth and EDI are destroyed.

only one problem with that - why the little "half breath" sequence following the Destroy choice?

oh... wait a second...  BECAUSE NONE OF IT REALLY HAPPENED!  it was all in Shepard's head!

Control = don't wake up because controlled by Reapers
Synthesis = don't wake up because controlled by Reapers
Destroy = wake up because NOT controlled by Reapers

set in stone permanently?  not at all

but makes much more sense than the **** at face value.

Destroy= trusting harbinger and han'gerral. Han'gerral would have killed all the quarians for the chance to kill the synthetics who have tormented them for 300 years.

And harbinger always goes on and on about destruction, about how destroying you is the only option, about how they'll save everyone by destruction, he's the biggest proponent for destroy I've ever heard.

/sarcasm.

[jijeebo]

Hadeedak wrote...

In control, when you're watching the endings side by side, they don't explode. Just fizzle.

That little snippet of information makes Control arguably better than Destroy, and as such is NEVER mentioned on these forums.

[ShepnTali]

Geneaux486 wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...
But there should have been more grilling. Shepard grills everybody and everything, sometimes to the point of boredom. Something's missing here for him to accept anything other than destroy, so fast. That's every Shepard. 

Shepard was wounded, allies were still being killed by Reapers, best interest to speed the process along as much as possible.

He talked Vigil's ear off, and now for all the marbles, no turning back, eternal galactic consequences... I'll take your response as a loosey goosey theory. Shepard, really?