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[TheLostGenius]

This is a huge buff for the Drell. Get your detonators ready, and move over Warp.

[Axialbloom]

Nightmare Sabin wrote...

I'd still go with Cone if you use Exploding Blades. As the extra damage is cut short anyways.

I prefer the damage upgrade.  It seems to make the initial hit stagger, as well as the explosions.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Blissey1 wrote...

you know a pistol is OP when people are comparing sniper rifles and shotguns to it.

Some of those sniper rifles shoot through walls. If a pistol is so overpowered why do I see all the snipers running around with sniper rifles?

[Atheosis]

Blissey1 wrote...

Atheosis wrote...


Viper: does considerably less damage than a Carnifex of equal level while weighing more and having a slower RoF.

Scimitar: roughly the same DPS and RoF as a Carnifex of equal level while being heavier and having an absurdly inaccurate spread of eight pellets (which each get reduced by armor seperately).

you know a pistol is OP when people are comparing sniper rifles and shotguns to it.

No, you know the sniper rifle and shotgun are underpowered when they compare unfavorably in virtually every way to a pistol that is far from the best gun in the game.

Modifié par Atheosis, 10 mai 2012 - 04:03 .

[a ViciousFerret]

Some weapons are meant to be outclassed by other weapons. It wouldn't be fun if all guns did the same amount of damage and didn't outclass any other guns.

I just have an issue with guns like the Eagle which is supposed to be a rare weapon being worse than a Predator. Or stupid stuff like the Wraith vs the Eviscerator, with the latter being better despite the description stating Wraith is a better but heavier Eviscerator and with the Wraith being an ultra rare.

Modifié par a ViciousFerret, 10 mai 2012 - 04:17 .

[Atheosis]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Some weapons are meant to be outclassed by other weapons. It wouldn't be fun if all guns did the same amount of damage and didn't outclass any other guns.

I don't think you really understand how game balance is supposed to work.  Different but equal is the ideal.  Weapons all being relatively balanced does not in any way lead to things being boring, because relative equality is not the same as being identical.

[The Shadow Broker]

WTF Cone reduction one killed the magic playing as batarian soldier

[january42]

Reax:
Kinda wish they had left ballistic blades. The old version wasn't overpowed. Just funny.


Buffing the shockwave biotic combo's is nice, but doesn't fix the real problems.  A nice fix for shockwave would be to swap the top evolutions for levels 5 and 6.

I'm actually curious why they buffed the Centurion.  Are they gonna be an event target.

It's ok for weapons to outclass those of a lower rarity.  There are only so many ways you can make guns different but equal, and this game has ALOT of guns

Modifié par january42, 10 mai 2012 - 04:40 .

[Atheosis]

january42 wrote...

It's ok for weapons to outclass those of a lower rarity.  There are only so many ways you can make guns different but equal, and this game has ALOT of guns

There are far more ways to make guns different but equal than there are guns in this game.  Far, far more.

Modifié par Atheosis, 10 mai 2012 - 04:48 .

[WWNSX]

TheLostGenius wrote...

This is a huge buff for the Drell. Get your detonators ready, and move over Warp.

What are you smoking?; there is no buff for the Drell. Hell the Asari Justicar Adept has more shields then the drell adept and vanguard with only 3 points in fitness!

[SeaJayX]

WWNSX wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

This is a huge buff for the Drell. Get your detonators ready, and move over Warp.

What are you smoking?; there is no buff for the Drell. Hell the Asari Justicar Adept has more shields then the drell adept and vanguard with only 3 points in fitness!

But the Justicar has no karate.

[Creston918]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Ballistic Blade Power
- Fixed evolution 2 to increase the cone angle to 110 degrees instead of 360 degrees

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

So has anyone tried this out then? Is cone still worth taking at all or no?

No, it's worthless now. I understand that the 360 degree (which it wasn't, actually. It was more around 270 degrees) glitch was simply that: a glitch, but 110 degrees is pathetic. You can have two enemies in front of you on both sides of the screen, and the "area" version of Ballistic Blades will now either hit just one of them, or, in some cases, hit NEITHER.

It should be 190 or 200 degrees to make it worth it.

And sadly the damage increase isn't really worth much either, so ballistic blades has now joined the Sentinel's net as being a terribly slow charging power that's not really very useful anymore. OR, in other words, stop playing Batarians everyone, as they've become basically pointless.

Played with my Batarian soldier for a few matches, and... sigh. Human soldier, Krogan soldier and Turian soldier are far, far more effective. So why take the Batarian anymore? A better fix would have been to keep the blades firing at its glitched arc, and remove the DoT. That way the stagger and explosion would still be there, making it a viable power, though no longer as crazy overpowered as it was (which I will readily admit. It was a "hit all enemies" power that did damage on contact, staggered, damage over time AND explosion damage. It was kinda crazy.)

but nerfing it so it becomes a one character power again... So now it's a slower firing Carnage variety that can't detonate anything. Yay

Ah well. He was fun while he lasted. Go quietly into the dark, cold night, Batarians. Thanks for the memories!

[vivanto]

Ballistic Blade Power
- Fixed evolution 2 to increase the cone angle to 110 degrees instead of 360 degrees

 

Fixed

So we can expect fixes now in a balance changelog? That's cool, so what about the dozens of other problems that need to be fixed? Even if it's just power-related issues, how about fixing the damn Justicar rank 5 evolution?

[Atheosis]

Creston918 wrote...

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Ballistic Blade Power
- Fixed evolution 2 to increase the cone angle to 110 degrees instead of 360 degrees

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

So has anyone tried this out then? Is cone still worth taking at all or no?

No, it's worthless now. I understand that the 360 degree (which it wasn't, actually. It was more around 270 degrees) glitch was simply that: a glitch, but 110 degrees is pathetic. You can have two enemies in front of you on both sides of the screen, and the "area" version of Ballistic Blades will now either hit just one of them, or, in some cases, hit NEITHER.

It should be 190 or 200 degrees to make it worth it.

And sadly the damage increase isn't really worth much either, so ballistic blades has now joined the Sentinel's net as being a terribly slow charging power that's not really very useful anymore. OR, in other words, stop playing Batarians everyone, as they've become basically pointless.

Played with my Batarian soldier for a few matches, and... sigh. Human soldier, Krogan soldier and Turian soldier are far, far more effective. So why take the Batarian anymore? A better fix would have been to keep the blades firing at its glitched arc, and remove the DoT. That way the stagger and explosion would still be there, making it a viable power, though no longer as crazy overpowered as it was (which I will readily admit. It was a "hit all enemies" power that did damage on contact, staggered, damage over time AND explosion damage. It was kinda crazy.)

but nerfing it so it becomes a one character power again... So now it's a slower firing Carnage variety that can't detonate anything. Yay

Ah well. He was fun while he lasted. Go quietly into the dark, cold night, Batarians. Thanks for the memories!

LOL, you are so full of it.  It's still a very good power, even if the arc of fire could use a little love.

[Iodine]

Creston918 wrote...
A better fix would have been to keep the blades firing at its glitched arc, and remove the DoT.

The DoT is the most insignificant part of the skill, and it doesn't do "extra" damage, it's just dealt separately from the instant damage. BB does 80% damage instantly, then the remaining 20% over the duration. This made it something like 22 DPS on Cone+Range+Explosive (on a single enemy), 23.2 DPS on Damage+*+Damage/Duration - that's less than Pull's r5 25 damage per second to lifted enemies.

Staggers are horribly underestimated/underappreciated/underutilized, and they are what make BB so effective. Good damage was just icing on the cake. The DoT is negligible, which you do seem to acknowledge/realize, and all it's good for is preventing health/shield regen and if you manage to stack 4 of them on a single enemy (and keep them stacked every 3 seconds) using the pure damage/bleed variant it's something like an extra 92.8 damage every 3 seconds.

Note: All numbers pulled from memory of calculations around the release of Resurgence, so they may be slightly off, and don't take Cone's x2/x3 damage multiplication from hitting 2-3 enemies into account.

Even so, there've been arguments about Cone vs. Damage, Damage/Duration vs. Explosive since Resurgence came out, so while not quite as ridiculously good in every way (only balancing weakness being inability to fire over half-cover), it's still highly effective even after being fixed.

Modifié par Iodine, 10 mai 2012 - 05:11 .

[a ViciousFerret]

Atheosis wrote...

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Some weapons are meant to be outclassed by other weapons. It wouldn't be fun if all guns did the same amount of damage and didn't outclass any other guns.

I don't think you really understand how game balance is supposed to work.  Different but equal is the ideal.  Weapons all being relatively balanced does not in any way lead to things being boring, because relative equality is not the same as being identical.

So you want all weapons to be as good as each other. How boring.

I personally want guns to not be useless. I don't care if they are outclassed by other guns. The outclassed guns tend to be lighter on principle soo they fill in their own niche by default.

[Atheosis]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Some weapons are meant to be outclassed by other weapons. It wouldn't be fun if all guns did the same amount of damage and didn't outclass any other guns.

I don't think you really understand how game balance is supposed to work.  Different but equal is the ideal.  Weapons all being relatively balanced does not in any way lead to things being boring, because relative equality is not the same as being identical.

So you want all weapons to be as good as each other. How boring.

I personally want guns to not be useless. I don't care if they are outclassed by other guns. The outclassed guns tend to be lighter on principle soo they fill in their own niche by default.

All the guns will never be as good as each other, because how good guns are is at least partially subjective (hell there are people who will argue that the Eagle is okay ffs).  What's boring is when there is a select number of guns that are clearly better than everything else.

Modifié par Atheosis, 10 mai 2012 - 05:22 .

[Iodine]

ME3's (multiplayer included) weapons and balance system just seems to be a direct combination of ME1's and ME2's weapon/balance systems, probably to try to appease everyone.

ME1 - linear progression for both weapons and armors, mildly different weapons due to ROF, damage, accuracy. Some were undeniably better than others in the same class, and a weapon's X variant was always better than that weapon's VII variant.
ME2 - every weapon is viable and even roughly as good, it all came down to the player choosing what they wanted to suit their playstyle (not counting the Mattock ;P)

ME3, X is better than VII, but they seem to be trying to achieve ME2 style balance somewhat, so if you want to use a Phalanx instead of a Carnifex you can do so effectively, or a Graal instead of a Claymore, Falcon instead of Striker, etc. But they're still a long ways from reaching ME2's level of balance/usefulness, so it's basically just random weapons being "overpowered" or "underpowered" regardless of rarity. ME2's system worked just fine (until Mattock/GPS came out at least ), but a lot of players didn't like how it didn't have the traditional RPG style weapon progression.

[zyzlplx]

are they ever going to fix kroguard rage though?

[vivanto]

zyzlplx wrote...
are they ever going to fix kroguard rage though?

Nah, fixing beneficial bugs is higher on the priority list.

[sinesztra]

Incinerate Power- Evolution 3 bonus damage-over-time increased from 40% to 50%
So big and awesome. QE Need Nerf.....

[Kenaras]

Atheosis wrote...

All the guns will never be as good as each other, because how good guns are is at least partially subjective (hell there are people who will argue that the Eagle is okay ffs).  What's boring is when there is a select number of guns that are clearly better than everything else.

It's true that weapon quality is partically subjective.  However, people who argue that the Eagle is okay are objectively wrong.  It's a weapon with no redeeming qualities, which is outperformed in every possible way by other weapons.

[mybudgee]

PLEASE PLEASE fix my Battlemaster!!!!!

[S9ilent]

I heart you shockwave

[Indenter]

6 vs 10 cooldown on AR? What was concussive shots base cooldown?

LOL.