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[jamminjamin]

I am proud of your artistic integrity, Bioware. I really am... until it was completely and utterly destroyed by its ending.

At this time no words can convey my feelings towards your attitude now. I cannot even phathom the reason you hold soooo tightly in such high esteem to the horrible horrible finish that you claim to be so proud of.  Your unwillingness to budge from such an absurd, illogical and linear end (the worst I have ever seen in a game) is just mind boggling to me.

Your EA influenced multiplayer is something of a joke to me as it is the only thing you are pushing now.

Sorry BioWare. It's not the ME3 ending that has crippled my faith in you. It is your attitude about how you're fixing it. It's all business to you now. You've succumbed to EA's influence and unrelenting business practices and I can no longer trust in any product you sell. Period.

You want my severed faith back? Either fix the broken game or separate from EA, before that monster devours you completely.

And for any person that reads this who supports BioWare's ending and their push towards mainstream fluff (multiplayer junk) your wallets will only feed the beast (EA). Please look deeply within and truly see the big picture... because BioWare doesn't seem to have that lense. Entire gaming companies have fallen because of "bad endings", seriously.

Story and Choice has always been their biggest strength... until March 6th. They don't seem to see reason, and it is reason that prevails when it comes to our absolute justification to this debacle. ME3 was never "our game", meaning, BioWares and Ours. It is only "their" game now. And that betrayal will never be forgotten.

Modifié par jamminjamin, 10 mai 2012 - 02:02 .

[Spectre197]

Hate to say it my friend bioware is part of EA now they only way they get away from them is it EA takes them out behnd the watershed and shoots them. The only thing I can say is that Bioware knows that this has pissed off alot of people. Dragon Age 2 as well but people still held out hope for ME3. Which sad to say were disappointed by it. Bioware needs to get right with the fans.

[Roux72]

Couldn't agree more.

[Roux72]

[Farangbaa]

I suppose you people still call that girl/boy that broke up with you 10 years ago for some silly reason demanding an explanation.

Let it go, man.

[Farangbaa]

StreetMagic wrote...

Psychevore wrote...

I suppose you people still call that girl/boy that broke up with you 10 years ago for some silly reason demanding an explanation.

Let it go, man.

lol.. what a strange reference. Have you seen someone do that?

It's the only thing I can think of that comes close to what's going on here. People still demand a fix for something that isn't broken; they can't deal with reality.

It's a weird reference, I know, but I really can't think of anything else.

[Almostfaceman]

Psychevore wrote...

I suppose you people still call that girl/boy that broke up with you 10 years ago for some silly reason demanding an explanation.

Let it go, man.

I suppose you still complain about that guy/girl who complains about that girl/guy they broke up with. Let it go and let 'em get it out of their system. You can't make 'em shut up, anyway.

[Display Name Owner]

I can't pretend I know what happened in their office, but I really get the feeling Bioware were slapped with an unreasonable deadline with ME3. In fact, remember how it was originally supposed to come out months earlier than it did? That can't possibly have been Bioware's idea.

[Tron Mega]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Psychevore wrote...

I suppose you people still call that girl/boy that broke up with you 10 years ago for some silly reason demanding an explanation.

Let it go, man.

I suppose you still complain about that guy/girl who complains about that girl/guy they broke up with. Let it go and let 'em get it out of their system. You can't make 'em shut up, anyway.

as long as ME3 exists there will always be people to complain about it.

it gets what it deserves.

Modifié par Tron Mega, 11 janvier 2014 - 02:39 .

[Tron Mega]

isnudo wrote...

I can't pretend I know what happened in their office, but I really get the feeling Bioware were slapped with an unreasonable deadline with ME3. In fact, remember how it was originally supposed to come out months earlier than it did? That can't possibly have been Bioware's idea.

7 years isnt long enough to make a coherent end to your story?

how much longer should they give them?

honestly, the decisions EA made were the best parts of ME3.

[TuringPoint]

They set up expectations that did not match what they delivered. That is not an artistic mistake. It may be a business mistake, it may cause you to question their integrity in business, but the decision on the ending had nothing to do with business or making money. If it had they would've charged us for the extra ending.

So here you are declaring all "ending lovers" as addicts to the corporate slave-state EA is creating, while you promote values that denigrate integrity of art.

Letting consumers of "art" make decisions for the artist is not artistic integrity. You don't know what art integrity is. Reading your post, I can't see that you know what integrity is.

I don't particularly care for the micro-transactions. I like the multi-player, but it's not the cause of the ending not meeting our expectations. Blaming it in that way is crazy. Blaming other current/former/ex-bioware fans for accepting Bioware's decision is not supporting micro-transactions. That is not logical, it is not criticism, it is just trolling.

[Zyrious]

Alocormin wrote...

They set up expectations that did not match what they delivered. That is not an artistic mistake. It may be a business mistake, it may cause you to question their integrity in business, but the decision on the ending had nothing to do with business or making money. If it had they would've charged us for the extra ending.

So here you are declaring all "ending lovers" as addicts to the corporate slave-state EA is creating, while you promote values that denigrate integrity of art.

Letting consumers of "art" make decisions for the artist is not artistic integrity. You don't know what art integrity is. Reading your post, I can't see that you know what integrity is.

I don't particularly care for the micro-transactions. I like the multi-player, but it's not the cause of the ending not meeting our expectations. Blaming it in that way is crazy. Blaming other current/former/ex-bioware fans for accepting Bioware's decision is not supporting micro-transactions. That is not logical, it is not criticism, it is just trolling.

Not necessarily true. In the movie industry, most movies do pre-release screenings to see how audiences react to certain parts of the movie, and more often than not endings are changed based on their reaction. James T Kirk originally died by a shot to the back, for instance. Some movies now make multiple endings and screen all of them, using the best recieved ending at release, or sometimes a compromise with one close to what they want while at the same time not pissing everyone off (should've done that with The Mist).

[JamesFaith]

Zyrious wrote...

Not necessarily true. In the movie industry, most movies do pre-release screenings to see how audiences react to certain parts of the movie, and more often than not endings are changed based on their reaction. James T Kirk originally died by a shot to the back, for instance. Some movies now make multiple endings and screen all of them, using the best recieved ending at release, or sometimes a compromise with one close to what they want while at the same time not pissing everyone off (should've done that with The Mist).

But this is still part of creative process. Test audience in movie industry, beta-readers with books, betatesters in videogame industry - all these people are part of creative process and sugestions about story is part of their work.

Demands from general public are something totally different because these people stand outside creative process and their suggestions should be indicator for next work of artist, not source for changes in current one.

[dreamgazer]

StreetMagic wrote...

The Mist pissed everyone off? I thought it was hilarious.

In case you haven't learned by now, people get very easily and irrationally pissed off by endings they don't like and don't satisfy what they demand from the story. Mass Effect 3 is far from the first, and it certainly won't be the last. 

[Zyrious]

dreamgazer wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

The Mist pissed everyone off? I thought it was hilarious.

In case you haven't learned by now, people get very easily and irrationally pissed off by endings they don't like and don't satisfy what they demand from the story. Mass Effect 3 is far from the first, and it certainly won't be the last. 

Certain criticisms are legitimate, however, and it's not fair to diminish criticism by generalising. For instance, the Mist ending sucked ( Seemed inconsistent with earlier parts of the movie and out of the blue for shock factor, which the director admitted was the sole purpose of it.)