Emzamination wrote...
No, it has been explained already that the text dialogue is way to buggy for the franchise.
batlin wrote...
Emzamination wrote...
No, it has been explained already that the text dialogue is way to buggy for the franchise.
Huh? In DA2 you would have a conversation with Merril that was supposed to happen AFTER a really spoiler-tastic thing happens, but you would talk to her about it several quests beforehand so the game would in effect spoil itself.
No such thing happened in DA:O or any of its DLC.
Modifié par Emzamination, 04 juin 2012 - 04:57 .
Emzamination wrote...
Anora being the only one able to recognize the magi boon if requested
City elf bann boon doesn't activate when requested
leliana's romance breaking unless you avoid talking to her till the end of the game if you're an ambitious human noble.
The elusive morrigan ring flag not firing off unless you talk to her before the final battle or choose a specific dialogue tree.
A certain game outcome involving alistair and a male human noble is impossible to get unless you have a player made pc fix for the dialogue flag.
There are a host of other problems with the text dialogue but those would be spoilers.
I'll take merrill's cosmetic bug over some of the game breaking ones I just listed any day.
No more text dialogue, it's not working out
batlin wrote...
Emzamination wrote...
Anora being the only one able to recognize the magi boon if requested
City elf bann boon doesn't activate when requested
leliana's romance breaking unless you avoid talking to her till the end of the game if you're an ambitious human noble.
The elusive morrigan ring flag not firing off unless you talk to her before the final battle or choose a specific dialogue tree.
A certain game outcome involving alistair and a male human noble is impossible to get unless you have a player made pc fix for the dialogue flag.
There are a host of other problems with the text dialogue but those would be spoilers.
I'll take merrill's cosmetic bug over some of the game breaking ones I just listed any day.
No more text dialogue, it's not working out
I'm not a developer, but I don;t see how voiced dialogue would be mapped any differently than text dialogue would. In fact most of your examples ARE of voiced dialogue. The only character who speaks in text is the Warden.
Emzamination wrote...
batlin wrote...
Emzamination wrote...
Anora being the only one able to recognize the magi boon if requested
City elf bann boon doesn't activate when requested
leliana's romance breaking unless you avoid talking to her till the end of the game if you're an ambitious human noble.
The elusive morrigan ring flag not firing off unless you talk to her before the final battle or choose a specific dialogue tree.
A certain game outcome involving alistair and a male human noble is impossible to get unless you have a player made pc fix for the dialogue flag.
There are a host of other problems with the text dialogue but those would be spoilers.
I'll take merrill's cosmetic bug over some of the game breaking ones I just listed any day.
No more text dialogue, it's not working out
I'm not a developer, but I don;t see how voiced dialogue would be mapped any differently than text dialogue would. In fact most of your examples ARE of voiced dialogue. The only character who speaks in text is the Warden.
Totally missed the point didn't ya? ._. All those examples are bugged text options for the warden that prevent certain flags from being turned on and imported.My point was the conversation wheel doesn't have any bugged dialogue making imports much smoother.
I really hate imports. I'd rather the focus just be on making choices count in the game they're in.Emzamination wrote...
batlin wrote...
Emzamination wrote...
Anora being the only one able to recognize the magi boon if requested
City elf bann boon doesn't activate when requested
leliana's romance breaking unless you avoid talking to her till the end of the game if you're an ambitious human noble.
The elusive morrigan ring flag not firing off unless you talk to her before the final battle or choose a specific dialogue tree.
A certain game outcome involving alistair and a male human noble is impossible to get unless you have a player made pc fix for the dialogue flag.
There are a host of other problems with the text dialogue but those would be spoilers.
I'll take merrill's cosmetic bug over some of the game breaking ones I just listed any day.
No more text dialogue, it's not working out
I'm not a developer, but I don;t see how voiced dialogue would be mapped any differently than text dialogue would. In fact most of your examples ARE of voiced dialogue. The only character who speaks in text is the Warden.
Totally missed the point didn't ya? ._. All those examples are bugged text options for the warden that prevent certain flags from being turned on and imported.My point was the conversation wheel doesn't have any bugged dialogue making imports much smoother.
HiroVoid wrote...
I really hate imports. I'd rather the focus just be on making choices count in the game they're in.
Emzamination wrote...
Totally missed the point didn't ya? ._. All those examples are bugged text options for the warden that prevent certain flags from being turned on and imported.My point was the conversation wheel doesn't have any bugged dialogue making imports much smoother.
AngryFrozenWater wrote...
Thus if the PC became voiceless I hope we could have the option to change the view from third to first person.
batlin wrote...
Emzamination wrote...
Totally missed the point didn't ya? ._. All those examples are bugged text options for the warden that prevent certain flags from being turned on and imported.My point was the conversation wheel doesn't have any bugged dialogue making imports much smoother.
What makes you think voiced dialogue is mapped any differently than text dialogue? And Since DA2 doesn't have a game to import to, I can't see how you can say for sure that the text wheel interface somehow has smoother mapping than DA:O's text list did.
Realmzmaster wrote...
HiroVoid wrote...
I really hate imports. I'd rather the focus just be on making choices count in the game they're in.
I agree. Unless you are importing the same character I see no purpose for the import. Allow the gamers to pick from a list of histories like in DA2 with a detailed description, but skip the headache of importing decisions about the world. This will eliminate the import bugs.
ME was different because the same character was imported from one game to the next and it made sense to carry over the decisions. It really did not matter for DA2.
Emzamination wrote...
I'm no developer but my guess is If it was coded the same bioware wouldn't be bothering with the convo wheel. The conversation wheel is the same wheel used through out the mass effect series which has never had an import bug.
batlin wrote...
Emzamination wrote...
I'm no developer but my guess is If it was coded the same bioware wouldn't be bothering with the convo wheel. The conversation wheel is the same wheel used through out the mass effect series which has never had an import bug.
The conversation wheel is just a differen't UI for dialogue than a list. It has nothing to do with how imported choices are mapped.
ME not having an import bug is due to better import implementation, bot because they use the wheel interface.
Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...
Give me more plot control...PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL FICTIONAL HOLY DIETIES BATMAN!
Screw voice acting. It's a RPG, not a CGI movie. If you want that play a recent Final Fantasy game, leave our Western RPGs alone evil voiced protagonist demon! Either that or make a compelling main character, not a stagnant lump of coal like Hawke.
The best western RPGs are based on PnP where players use their imaginations. Sure, CRPGs are limited in the options given to the player, but allowing the player to read the lines with a voice of their own is part of the freedoms carried over from PnP. Alot of casual cRPG players don't get it, and have never had that experience. It's just damn disappointing to have a lack of customization for my main character and then be given a voice that sounds nothing like how he/she would sound and then due to the expense and limitation of logical responses be limited again by the voice acting to convey only a few ways lines can be presented with emotional tone.
It's a sad, failed hope to want a silent protagonist these days since publishers want developers to make the maximum amount of cash and appeal to the broadest audience so we'll always get the limited, voiced protagonist that appeals to the most casual gamers who don't want replayability or a more PnP style experience.
Emzamination wrote...
Realmzmaster wrote...
HiroVoid wrote...
I really hate imports. I'd rather the focus just be on making choices count in the game they're in.
I agree. Unless you are importing the same character I see no purpose for the import. Allow the gamers to pick from a list of histories like in DA2 with a detailed description, but skip the headache of importing decisions about the world. This will eliminate the import bugs.
ME was different because the same character was imported from one game to the next and it made sense to carry over the decisions. It really did not matter for DA2.
Importing saves allows you to shape your thedas to your personal liking politically and religiously, I for one don't want to give that up.
The default histories lack personal touch, what if I want decisions made in one history to be present another? It's a major reason I only play da2 with origin imports.
wsandista wrote...
AngryFrozenWater wrote...
Thus if the PC became voiceless I hope we could have the option to change the view from third to first person.
While I prefer an isometric view for combat, switching to a first person view for cutscenes is something I think the devs should really look at. Just in case they decide that silent PC should be an option in a game.
coles4971 wrote...
Emzamination wrote...
Realmzmaster wrote...
HiroVoid wrote...
I really hate imports. I'd rather the focus just be on making choices count in the game they're in.
I agree. Unless you are importing the same character I see no purpose for the import. Allow the gamers to pick from a list of histories like in DA2 with a detailed description, but skip the headache of importing decisions about the world. This will eliminate the import bugs.
ME was different because the same character was imported from one game to the next and it made sense to carry over the decisions. It really did not matter for DA2.
Importing saves allows you to shape your thedas to your personal liking politically and religiously, I for one don't want to give that up.
The default histories lack personal touch, what if I want decisions made in one history to be present another? It's a major reason I only play da2 with origin imports.
importing saves also gives bioware absolute hell trying to mould the game around decisions made in the previous one
as said before, for Mass Effect the imports are good because you're playing the same character, but in DA where we go all the way from Ferelden to Kirkwall, we don't really gain anything with an important apart from the occasional "oh man that mage/elf/noble warden was AWESOME".
Modifié par Emzamination, 08 juin 2012 - 11:15 .
Monica83 wrote...
Of course yes.. if i am interested to play a movie i simply watch a dvd...
Modifié par LiquidGrape, 11 juin 2012 - 01:34 .
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