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[GongStar]

This is the internet, I've seen cheaters lie about their activity on forums after being caught.
There is no possibility that you can convince anyone here that what you are saying is true.

[Chaoswind]

Chaoswind wrote...

dr_random wrote...

Why is this thread getting so much attention?

Trolls

Anyways a month ago I had the same glitch, I bought a Specter Pack, got the Items and still had the money, at first I was like wtf... so I tried again and the same happened and did so a third time, by then I had noticed that my N7 had raised 2 points due to a exp card (meaning I was keeping the stuff I thought I wasn't getting), so I closed the store logged out and restarted origin, I know I did the right thing, but i can understand the temptation of this glitch.

PS: This Glitch is real, or at least was real  1 or 2 months ago, if that is what really happened to him/her or not is another thing

[nuculerman]

astheoceansblue wrote...

nuculerman wrote...

Read my other posts.  He personally didn't affect anyone in a meaningful way.  People like him, as a group, do.

People like him? 

The only people who have some kind of actual negative impact are those who modify the game files or glitch while a game is in play and cause other player's games to be disrupted or changed without their consent.

All he did was take advantage of a store glitch. This is not the same thing.

You absolutely cannot say someone who was tempted by a store error like this is the same as a person who plans to and then hacks a game on purpose. 

I can.  And I did.  Cheating is cheating.  His cheating should have only earned him a wiped account.  Modifying game files to get more credits should earn you a perma ban.  Like anything, there are of course different magnitudes.

But like someone already responded, it's obvious you've used a glitch to get credits given how interested you are in defending this kid.  For the record, I hope EA wipes your account and you have to start over, not that you get banned.

[astheoceansblue]

nuculerman wrote...
You see nothing wrong with using credits you didn't earn.

Neither do I.

I spent money on bioware points when the game started. I lost points and no items were added (I kept a tally back then, so I knew they didn't without my knowledge).

Bioware and EA have refused to refund me. They took my money happily, though.

If a person has no intent to ever spend money on credits, then what harm is he actually doing if he glitches to get them without it affecting nother players game? There's no money lost on bioware's part.

And while one wrong doesn't justify another, the last point remains true: what harm did he do to anyone, really?

nuculerman wrote...
I can.  And I did.  Cheating is cheating.  His cheating should have only earned him a wiped account.  Modifying game files to get more credits should earn you a perma ban.  Like anything, there are of course different magnitudes.

Cheating is cheating, yet you fully recognise how the two crimes should carry differint severities of punishment?

Yeh, that makes a lot of sense... 

nuculerman wrote... 
But like someone already responded, it's obvious you've used a glitch to get credits given how interested you are in defending this kid.  For the record, I hope EA wipes your account and you have to start over, not that you get banned.

 

Clearly...

I honestly hope you're serious, because that was priceless.

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 10 mai 2012 - 02:33 .

[Igipopp]

Derp

[Igipopp]

Derp

[Bamford38]

Scum

[LeandroBraz]

astheoceansblue wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...
Again,  If cheaters can run free, the game become a mess.

 so why we need to accept this kind of thing?

All he did was take advatnage of an infinite credit glitch at the store. This wasn't something he planned, or set-up, he's human and was tempted, what he did didn't disrupt anyone's game or cause anyone else upset.

If this person was never going to spend money on points (I know for a fact I never will), then I see no reason to call it theft either. 

I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished, but a profiel wipe would be more in line with his crime, imo. People who activley hack the game deserve a ban, but someone tempted by an erro on BIoware and EAs end (especially if a first time offence) should be dealt with a little more leniantly. 

Agree, a wipe would be more apropriate, but still, cheaters must suffer =D

[1stormseekr]

He didn't stop till he maxed out everything, then i bet he went in game and played. That's when it effected every player he played with.
I would be on your side if you had went to bioware/ea and reported the problem. Since you didn't then i wish they would ban not only in me3 but ALL your games with your origin account,spread your ip address and email to other manufactures so they could put you on a ban list.

[Kel Riever]

Suspended for a period of time would be the worst thing, really, for an admitted cheater. I wouldn't ban anyone unless they were a repeat cheater with no intention of ever doing anything different.

Bioware would like to sell games and not have people cheat. If you stop cheating, that should count for something. Not a free pass, but not a flaying.

[LadyAlekto]

YAy for a banned cheater

*throws confetti*

I do not feel in the slightest bit sorry to be happy, cheater are ruining mp fpr years, any of themg etting banned is great!

Btw cheater also ruin the reputation of good gamer, so down with cheater!

[Astreus]

Cool, you judge me like I murder a several people...
I think there is something more in why you have something againts me, but... never mind.

What you did wasn't that bad at all.  It's not comparable to murder at all.  My analogy wasn't meant to compare you to a murderer, it was meant to explain to you why EA can't unban you.  You've openly admitted you don't think what you did was wrong, other than the fact, it got you banned. 

Again, I openly admitted what have I done was wrong. No I was being captured! I regret I used "store glitch"!

1. I regret what have I done.

False.  You regret getting banned.  There is a difference.

No, I disagree. If someone (like me) really regret what he done, there is no way to prove it! So say me how to prove it and I will. But you cant, neither than I.

2. I never say "I dont do anything wrong", I admit what have I done and shame is on my head.

False.  You've only admited it was wrong in that it got you banned.  You see nothing wrong with using credits you didn't earn.

No, I disagree again. I know using glitches/bugs is bad, and theres no fairplay. You judging me only about on your supposition.

3. You say "The ONLY reason you wouldn't cheat again is because they banned you and you don't like being banned.", yes thats true, who likes being banned? No one!

This really addresses the lies of your first two points better than my responses did.  It also makes me think you're either a 9 year old, or trolling.

Ehm, it was meaning with "humor"...

But, yes I hate cheats/cheaters too, but I just couldnt say "No!" to this opportunity.

Guess we're going with 9 year old.

Why? Because I couldnt resist? And again you are judging me only on your supposition.

4. Yes, if I was unbanned (what I think is impossible) I will come here and write a little long post and say thanks or just send a message to BW e-mail. Its a act of gratitude! If you ever heard that word.

You really better hope EA has no means to tie this account to your Origin account, and no desire to read this. Again, I'd consider taking my advice.  You're only digging yourself deeper.  Look up "deterent."

But, you forget on something, main point of this topic is about "What should I do when I am banned and if there is a way to get back," this topic wasnt created in a meaning of "excuse my actions".

 
5. You dont must believe me (even I would hard to believe you if you was that who "cheat") but, you can trust me, after this I have no intend to "cheats" or use "glitchs".

Then again, maybe a troll.

Why troll? Because I really regret I used store glitch (no being captured)?

[LeandroBraz]

nuculerman wrote...

SSV Normandy-SR2 wrote...

Whats wrong with you? If some admitting what bad he done (even after BAN) whats wrong on that?

And about trusting, I have a motto, "If you burn yourself one time, don't try to burn yourself second time!".

So in my opinion it really stupid thinking about "cheating again" when I was banned, its like I was criminal and have my prints/pictures in police database and go rob some bank without mask and gloves (and touch everything)!

Stop posting.  You keep digging yourself into a hole.  I'm giving good advice here.  If you want to be unbanned, stop posting.  You're making a fool out of yourself.  You've said numerous times you don't think you did anything wrong.  You don't think what you did affected anyone in a negative way.  The ONLY reason you wouldn't cheat again is because they banned you and you don't like being banned.

If a criminal came before his parole officer and said, yeah, I don't think I did anything wrong, but gee, I really hated jail.  So don't worry, I won't be doing anything wrong again... what do you think would happen?

EA can't unban you.  There's this thing.  It's called incentives.  Look it up.  If EA unbanned you, after you stupidly made your case so publicly, and like boss came here to thank them for unbanning you (which evidence suggests you will do), they just took away any incentive to not cheat.  Anyone like you, without a value system or understanding of ethics, would then be able to cheat without fear.  If there's like a 10% chance of getting caught (which seems like a high estimate... EA is really slow), and getting got only gets you banned for a week before you get unbanned by complaining hard enough... there would be no real incentive not to cheat.  The reward would far outweigh the risk.

And again, you brought this on yourself.  You cheated, then reported a glitch that you had exploited.  Not only should you be perma banned, but you should have to spend the rest of your life in a dunce cap.  If there were the equivalent of a Darwin award for gaming, you'd be a the top of the list.

this. You did two stupid things: Explored a glitch in a way it was easy for Bioware to find out and punish, and then created this topic instead of trying to reach bioware without public atention, so you could ask for a less severe punishment. You deserve your punishment more for being so innocent than for the cheat itself.

[EgoSoul]

SSV Normandy-SR2 wrote...

Few days ago, I wrote e-mail to BW about what's wrong with my game, because I wasn't been able to play MP for some time.

They said I was banned, so...

Is there any way to play again? Like buying that "Online pass" or something like that? Or I will never play MP on my account again? 

Btw: And for the record, I really regret what have I done... with... cheating!
I just want to play again, without cheats of course. <_<

You should just keep this between you and Bioware. I also do not think you are not helping yourself asking the community for a way to circumvent your ban via the option of a new online pass or other suggestions. 

I get that your regretful, but I think you're preaching to the wrong audience. If the intent was for Bioware you should refer to the cheating sticky for contact with them and hopefully work out a solution. 

Modifié par EgoSoul, 10 mai 2012 - 02:45 .

[astheoceansblue]

1stormseekr wrote...

He didn't stop till he maxed out everything, then i bet he went in game and played. That's when it effected every player he played with.

Ridiculous.

How is the guy using N7 Xs going to cause anything otehr then player envy?

It's not like N7 X = win button, or even major imbalance. Trust me, I've played with enough N7 X owners now to know it has almost no bearing on inherent player skill.

The problem here is people's high moral (probably higly hypocritical) and illogical reactions the the OP. 

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

YAy for a banned cheater

*throws confetti*

I do not feel in the slightest bit sorry to be happy, cheater are ruining mp fpr years, any of themg etting banned is great!

Btw cheater also ruin the reputation of good gamer, so down with cheater!

 

Reactions like this, who seem to think a person who was tempted by a store glitch is the same as someone who actively hacks a game with premeditated intent to achieve personal gain.

Ridiculous.

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 10 mai 2012 - 02:45 .

[Nwalmenil]

I'm sure this thread is heading towards a lock.. but when thinking about it some more it might be a pretty good solution to unban him after a while (and after wiping his unlocks).

If a cheater gets banned and buys another copy of the game they'll be on a completely new account and has to be actually found cheating if they do something again. But if they're on their old account BioWare could flag it as had been a cheater. Just so that it'd get some more scrutiny down the line?

Then again, if someone gets perma banned and ends up buying a new copy of the game they make money so..

[Rafficus III]

*looks at your Galaxy at War* holy f... at what point in time did you consider what you were doing might be wrong? Not trying to rag on you, but if you abused the system that much they probably should scale back a lot of your unlocks or remove them making you earn them the right way. On a related note, people are still doing this glitch. Somehow I was dropped into a gold match in the 10th round. As soon as the credits came up everyone started to let Cerberus demolish them, except for me. I didn't catch on and wound up taking Cerberus on by myself and completed the round. The moment they all popped up, they started shooting at me and attempted to kick me the next round. I dropped out when I caught on.

[sp33dd34m0n]

1stormseekr wrote...

He didn't stop till he maxed out everything, then i bet he went in game and played. That's when it effected every player he played with.

I welcome anyone in my game with a Javelin X, no matter how he got it.

And again: its just a video game and its Biowares fault. he payed for the game and the online pass and didnt hurt anyone and didnt effect anyones game on a bad way. IMo a ban for 7 days is fair anything else is just stupid. Were still talking about a GAME.

[Astreus]

Ohh Keelah...

This topic wasnt created to "excuse" my for asking to unbanning.

This topic was created because I want to know what should I do if I am banned and want to come back!

Thats all.

EgoSoul: I wrote to BW first and they said I was banned because of cheating, I have it now on my display. And I wrote another e-mail but they dont response, so I make this topic to know if there is a way back, thats all!

Modifié par SSV Normandy-SR2, 10 mai 2012 - 02:49 .

[astheoceansblue]

hornedfrog87 wrote...
On a related note, people are still doing this glitch.  

That's not what the OP did. You do know that the word "glitch" doesn't apply to a singular instance?

People really do need to read the thread before replying.

SSV Normandy-SR2 wrote...

Ohh Keelah...

This topic wasnt created to "excuse" my or asking to unbanning.

This topic was created because I want to know what should I do if I am banned and want to come back!

Thats all.

EgoSoul: I wrote to BW first and they said I was banned because of cheating, I have it now on my display. And I wrote another e-mail but they dont response, so I make this topic to know if there is a way back, thats all!

 

If opening a new account on Origin isn't really going to affect you that much, I'd just buy a new copy and chalk it up to a bad call.

And don't do it again!

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 10 mai 2012 - 02:49 .

[LadyAlekto]

@oceansblue

I am playing for a long time, and anyone cheating in multiplayer, no matter what it is, no matter what kind, or what game. A cheater does not deserve any good treatment ever! Only the worse they can get!

I've been sharpening my skills in all this time, and the only thing cheater are creating is suspicion against good gamer, any skill you have can and will be regularly taking as being cheating, because cheater can receive the same power without earning them

And yes even someone being tempted by and using the store glitch deserves the same punishment! I did knew about the commendation glitch and didnt use it, i know how i could easily hack my game and all, am i tempted sometimes? yes, would i ever do it? NO!

Modifié par ShadedPhoenix, 10 mai 2012 - 02:52 .

[marshalleck]

In this thread, asoceansblue is defending the lowest common denominator.

As usual.

[John123453242]

LOL @ the guy defending the cheater. I hope BioWare trolls the cheater as much as he trolled the game. Let him buy another online pass and then ban him again. Free money for BioWare.

[astheoceansblue]

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

@oceansblue

I am playing for a long time, and anyone cheating in multiplayer, no matter what it is, no matter what kind, or what game. A cheater does not deserve any good treatment ever! Only the worse they can get!

I've been sharpening my skills in all this time, and the only thing cheater are creating is suspicion against good gamer, any skill you have can and will be regularly taking as being cheating, because cheater can receive the same power without earning them

Do you really asign the same level of seveirty to somone who:

1. Actively hunts down a hack, installs hack, loads game, uses hack to disrupt other's games and enjoys doing so.
-to-
2. A person who was tempted by a store error and made a bad call.

?

marshalleck wrote...

In this thread, asoceansblue is defending the lowest common denominator. 

As usual.

I'm not defending the guy, I'm reacting against the ridiculous responses.

Guy should be punished, no one's denying that, but if you're seriously saying that every crime in the world is the same as another and all "cheaters" are the absolute same by default, then you have a very shallow view of things.

People and their easy to preach morality make me sick sometimes.

Also, who are you? 

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 10 mai 2012 - 02:54 .

[Nwalmenil]

marshalleck wrote...

In this thread, asoceansblue is defending the lowest common denominator.

As usual.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. He's being pretty reasonable about his points as well.  You don't have to agree with him but at least he's discussing his view in a calm and civilized manner.