So no one sees that indoctrination is happening to Shepard even if we take the plot as it is?
#476
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:22
#477
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:22
thats in a codex by the by
#478
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:22
FatalX7.0 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
You are already accepting the endings as is, Shepard dies in all 3 endings. But you want to play more? How would this work without IT?
When did I ever say this? Because I didn't play a crappy DLC?
So you don't believe the endings at face value? Sorry I just thought you had an opinion.
Modifié par balance5050, 12 mai 2012 - 03:23 .
#479
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:23
I believe some players can understand that you are trying to sound brighter because you played other games, but that has nothing to do with math if you can't get the simple meaning of events, and resort to fanfic to tie ends together.hoodaticus wrote...
You have the right to believe that math cannot describe a person whose experience is limited to part 3 as a fraction of those who played the entire series and all DLC, just as you have the right to disbelieve in math itself. I won't stop you.
Modifié par Iconoclaste, 12 mai 2012 - 03:24 .
#480
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:23
darthoptimus003 wrote...
ill give you that but IT still has alot of holes in some of the things in it
which holes? (bear in mind there isn't just 1 indoctrination theory anymore)
Edit: eliminated quote pyramid.
Modifié par KingZayd, 12 mai 2012 - 03:25 .
#481
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:23
balance5050 wrote...
FatalX7.0 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
You are already accepting the endings as is, Shepard dies in all 3 endings. But you want to play more? How would this work without IT?
When did I ever say this? Because I didn't play a crappy DLC?
So you don't believe the endings at face value? Sorry I just thought you had an opinion.
Now you're assuming what I believe?
I don't like the ending. I don't believe them to be something else like you do.
Bad writing by an arrogant producer who ripped off Deus Ex.
Modifié par FatalX7.0, 12 mai 2012 - 03:25 .
#482
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:24
It's not short term, It's 3 years of on and off contact.darthoptimus003 wrote...
and only long term exposure to a rEAper artifact does anything not short term
thats in a codex by the by
#483
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:24
FatalX7.0 wrote...
Why do you keep making so many assumptions about me?
Not you, your character, keep up please.
Modifié par balance5050, 12 mai 2012 - 03:29 .
#484
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:25
#485
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:25
balance5050 wrote...
FatalX7.0 wrote...
Why do you keep making so many assumptions about me?
Not you, your chacter, keep up please.
My chacter?
What, Shepard?
So, my Shepard doesn't believe the endings at face value?
#486
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:25
It's adorable that you think I have to try. Sounds like projection to me.Iconoclaste wrote...
I believe some players can understand that you are trying to sound brighter because you played other gameshoodaticus wrote...
You have the right to believe that math cannot describe a person whose experience is limited to part 3 as a fraction of those who played the entire series and all DLC, just as you have the right to disbelieve in math itself. I won't stop you.
#487
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:26
Isn't this topic about taking the ending as face value?FatalX7.0 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
FatalX7.0 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
You are already accepting the endings as is, Shepard dies in all 3 endings. But you want to play more? How would this work without IT?
When did I ever say this? Because I didn't play a crappy DLC?
So you don't believe the endings at face value? Sorry I just thought you had an opinion.
Now you're assuming what I believe?
I don't like the ending. I don't believe them to be something else like you do.
Bad writing by an arrogant producer who ripped off Deus Ex.
#488
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:26
darthoptimus003 wrote...
with you saying that just proves the IT theory is wrong
with who saying what?
#489
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:26
Isn't that like telling a guy in crutches to hussle?balance5050 wrote...
FatalX7.0 wrote...
Why do you keep making so many assumptions about me?
Not you, your chacter, keep up please.
#490
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:27
dreman9999 wrote...
Isn't this topic about taking the ending as face value?FatalX7.0 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
FatalX7.0 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
You are already accepting the endings as is, Shepard dies in all 3 endings. But you want to play more? How would this work without IT?
When did I ever say this? Because I didn't play a crappy DLC?
So you don't believe the endings at face value? Sorry I just thought you had an opinion.
Now you're assuming what I believe?
I don't like the ending. I don't believe them to be something else like you do.
Bad writing by an arrogant producer who ripped off Deus Ex.
What point are you trying to make?
#491
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:28
If you believew that Shepard has been slowly prepared for indoc through 3 games, and finally succombs to it, then explain how he could exit from indoc for the "final fight" without a severe state of mental injury.dreman9999 wrote...
It's not short term, It's 3 years of on and off contact.darthoptimus003 wrote...
and only long term exposure to a rEAper artifact does anything not short term
thats in a codex by the by
#492
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:28
There 3 versions of IT. Hallusonation, dream, and what this topic is taking about.darthoptimus003 wrote...
with you saying that just proves the IT theory is wrong
Ironicly, being open to one version open up to all versions as well.
#493
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:28
thisKingZayd wrote...
darthoptimus003 wrote...
ill give you that but IT still has alot of holes in some of the things in it
which holes? (bear in mind there isn't just 1 indoctrination theory anymore)
Edit: eliminated quote pyramid.
#494
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:30
hoodaticus wrote...
Isn't that like telling a guy in crutches to hussle?balance5050 wrote...
FatalX7.0 wrote...
Why do you keep making so many assumptions about me?
Not you, your chacter, keep up please.
#495
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:30
and this is why a new ending is neededdreman9999 wrote...
There 3 versions of IT. Hallusonation, dream, and what this topic is taking about.darthoptimus003 wrote...
with you saying that just proves the IT theory is wrong
Ironicly, being open to one version open up to all versions as well.
and another reason i stop playing when i hit the TIM base
#496
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:30
That mental injury only comes up onec he is fully indoctrinated...That's if he let the reapers indoctrinated him.(Control, Synthesis). Shepard is not indoctrinated yet, he is still in the process of it in the theory. He can resist still easilly.Iconoclaste wrote...
If you believew that Shepard has been slowly prepared for indoc through 3 games, and finally succombs to it, then explain how he could exit from indoc for the "final fight" without a severe state of mental injury.dreman9999 wrote...
It's not short term, It's 3 years of on and off contact.darthoptimus003 wrote...
and only long term exposure to a rEAper artifact does anything not short term
thats in a codex by the by
#497
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:31
You just can't accept the endings we all have, and try to get some comfort in making your own endings. Nothing bad about that. But if you think players need maths to understand the meaning of bad writing, then you just missed a whole lot more than others.hoodaticus wrote...
It's adorable that you think I have to try. Sounds like projection to me.Iconoclaste wrote...
I believe some players can understand that you are trying to sound brighter because you played other gameshoodaticus wrote...
You have the right to believe that math cannot describe a person whose experience is limited to part 3 as a fraction of those who played the entire series and all DLC, just as you have the right to disbelieve in math itself. I won't stop you.
#498
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:31
A new ending is only need if the ending makes no sense...IT makes the ending make sense. Think of it like the final question of Inception.darthoptimus003 wrote...
and this is why a new ending is neededdreman9999 wrote...
There 3 versions of IT. Hallusonation, dream, and what this topic is taking about.darthoptimus003 wrote...
with you saying that just proves the IT theory is wrong
Ironicly, being open to one version open up to all versions as well.
and another reason i stop playing when i hit the TIM base
#499
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:31
balance5050 wrote...
hoodaticus wrote...
Isn't that like telling a guy in crutches to hussle?balance5050 wrote...
FatalX7.0 wrote...
Why do you keep making so many assumptions about me?
Not you, your chacter, keep up please.
Is there a reason you haven't answered or responded to half of my posts to you?
Do you only wish to try and insult me, while you cling to plotholes and bull****?
#500
Posté 12 mai 2012 - 03:31
FatalX7.0 wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Isn't this topic about taking the ending as face value?FatalX7.0 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
FatalX7.0 wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
You are already accepting the endings as is, Shepard dies in all 3 endings. But you want to play more? How would this work without IT?
When did I ever say this? Because I didn't play a crappy DLC?
So you don't believe the endings at face value? Sorry I just thought you had an opinion.
Now you're assuming what I believe?
I don't like the ending. I don't believe them to be something else like you do.
Bad writing by an arrogant producer who ripped off Deus Ex.
What point are you trying to make?
That even at face value TIM is using a form of indoctrination on you, TIM was studying indoctrantion not biotics.





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