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[darthoptimus003]

i know what it is
shep is drunk next to ariea and is having a drunk dream

[dreman9999]

Iconoclaste wrote...

This whole point about TIM trying to "indoctrinate" Shepard wouldn't even need to be argued, since Shepard is "sleeping in London", if this version of IT still holds. Why argue at all about TIM, his possible new biotic implants and other stuff happening on the Citadel, if it's just not true?

Do you know that this topic is about considering if the ending is real. I know that if we say Shepard is indoctrinate in the plot any if we take what we see as real any way would open all the IT theory up as a possibility of being true, bu just not this topic is not about the dream IT theory.

[KingZayd]

darthoptimus003 wrote...

i know what it is
shep is drunk next to ariea and is having a drunk dream

but my Shepard didn't drink. Also, I wouldn't want to e unconscious around Aria. She's not a nice person.

Modifié par KingZayd, 12 mai 2012 - 04:14 .

[Iconoclaste]

KingZayd wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

This whole point about TIM trying to "indoctrinate" Shepard wouldn't even need to be argued, since Shepard is "sleeping in London", if this version of IT still holds. Why argue at all about the TIM, his possible new biotic implants and other stuff happening on the Citadel, if it's just not true?

because the point is, that TIM's new trick is indoctrination. The fact that it doesn't work quite like it should hints that it's not real.

I think it's easier to believe that it's not "indoc", but a biotic-related power of some sort, and Shepard is really there. He could be dreaming the last sequence, though, when he goes through the roof on the elevator to the "light".

[dreman9999]

darthoptimus003 wrote...

i know what it is
shep is drunk next to ariea and is having a drunk dream

What if my Shepard never drinks?

[darthoptimus003]

KingZayd wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

and this is the reason why we NEED a new ending

and Bioware said it's not gonna happen.

yeah well i can still hope and if the EC sucks you can bet there WILL be another sh**storm
am i wrong

[Iconoclaste]

dreman9999 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

This whole point about TIM trying to "indoctrinate" Shepard wouldn't even need to be argued, since Shepard is "sleeping in London", if this version of IT still holds. Why argue at all about TIM, his possible new biotic implants and other stuff happening on the Citadel, if it's just not true?

Do you know that this topic is about considering if the ending is real. I know that if we say Shepard is indoctrinate in the plot any if we take what we see as real any way would open all the IT theory up as a possibility of being true, bu just not this topic is not about the dream IT theory.

Well, I know that not all IT supporters go that way...

[balance5050]

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

i know what it is
shep is drunk next to ariea and is having a drunk dream

What if my Shepard never drinks?

I haven't had drink since that Batarian poisoned me in Omega.

[darthoptimus003]

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

i know what it is
shep is drunk next to ariea and is having a drunk dream

What if my Shepard never drinks?

will your shep is missing out  on some crazy good fun
my shep needs AA meetings

[hoodaticus]

dreman9999 wrote...
(Page 60). 
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This shows reaper tech can grant biotic power but it take time to develop it and is very weak at first. It took days for them to make Grayson truely powerful. The issue with TIM is the time it avalible for this change...Remeber, he was whole when you saw him in the cerberus base.

Point taken!  Thanks again, dreman!

[hoodaticus]

balance5050 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

i know what it is
shep is drunk next to ariea and is having a drunk dream

What if my Shepard never drinks?

I haven't had drink since that Batarian poisoned me in Omega.

But drinks were on the house after that!  Open bar bra!

[KingZayd]

Iconoclaste wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

This whole point about TIM trying to "indoctrinate" Shepard wouldn't even need to be argued, since Shepard is "sleeping in London", if this version of IT still holds. Why argue at all about the TIM, his possible new biotic implants and other stuff happening on the Citadel, if it's just not true?

because the point is, that TIM's new trick is indoctrination. The fact that it doesn't work quite like it should hints that it's not real.

I think it's easier to believe that it's not "indoc", but a biotic-related power of some sort, and Shepard is really there. He could be dreaming the last sequence, though, when he goes through the roof on the elevator to the "light".

And at what point did TIM think he'd need this biotic power? He sits around in his office all day, and already has indoctrination. And why does he go to so much effort to keep it a secret, that although we get quite a bit of detail on his study of indoctrination we get NOTHING on his study of implanting  eezo nodules into adult humans and making the nervous system adapt to it?


Also, do you think the reaper don't TRY to indoctrinate Shepard? Or do you think he is immune for some reason?

Modifié par KingZayd, 12 mai 2012 - 04:19 .

[darthoptimus003]

hoodaticus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

i know what it is
shep is drunk next to ariea and is having a drunk dream

What if my Shepard never drinks?

I haven't had drink since that Batarian poisoned me in Omega.

But drinks were on the house after that!  Open bar bra!

hints the need AA meetings 

[dreman9999]

Iconoclaste wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

This whole point about TIM trying to "indoctrinate" Shepard wouldn't even need to be argued, since Shepard is "sleeping in London", if this version of IT still holds. Why argue at all about the TIM, his possible new biotic implants and other stuff happening on the Citadel, if it's just not true?

because the point is, that TIM's new trick is indoctrination. The fact that it doesn't work quite like it should hints that it's not real.

I think it's easier to believe that it's not "indoc", but a biotic-related power of some sort, and Shepard is really there. He could be dreaming the last sequence, though, when he goes through the roof on the elevator to the "light".

It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

[Iconoclaste]

We don't know a lot about TIM, he could have been modified in many steps, during many years. He had his strange eyes since the first time we saw him, there is no reason to assume he wouldn't get some preparation in many successive steps in order to get the last "improvement" once he found the key knowledge he was looking for.

[KingZayd]

Iconoclaste wrote...

We don't know a lot about TIM, he could have been modified in many steps, during many years. He had his strange eyes since the first time we saw him, there is no reason to assume he wouldn't get some preparation in many successive steps in order to get the last "improvement" once he found the key knowledge he was looking for.

those strange eyes? a souvenir from Shanxi.

[balance5050]

Iconoclaste wrote...

We don't know a lot about TIM, he could have been modified in many steps, during many years. He had his strange eyes since the first time we saw him, there is no reason to assume he wouldn't get some preparation in many successive steps in order to get the last "improvement" once he found the key knowledge he was looking for.

He got the strange eyes from a reaper artifact in the First Contact wars.


EDIT: 'd by KingZayd

Modifié par balance5050, 12 mai 2012 - 04:23 .

[darthoptimus003]

implants for his sight being damaged in some way

[darthoptimus003]

darthoptimus003 wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

i know what it is
shep is drunk next to ariea and is having a drunk dream

What if my Shepard never drinks?

I haven't had drink since that Batarian poisoned me in Omega.

But drinks were on the house after that!  Open bar bra!

hints the need AA meetings 

and miranda

[Iconoclaste]

dreman9999 wrote...
It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds merged together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 12 mai 2012 - 04:26 .

[dreman9999]

Iconoclaste wrote...

We don't know a lot about TIM, he could have been modified in many steps, during many years. He had his strange eyes since the first time we saw him, there is no reason to assume he wouldn't get some preparation in many successive steps in order to get the last "improvement" once he found the key knowledge he was looking for.

Proof please. He's going to have powerhe doesn't know about and is a reaper agent for year but stops them from getting Shepards body and learn a loop whole to control them. That makes no sense. This is a strawman argument. It much more logic to seehe is using what he learned about indoctrination and using his implants to control Shepard and Anderson.

[balance5050]

Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds merged together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.

I like how youre just making things up now.

[darthoptimus003]

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

[balance5050]

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

Anderson is pure organic as far as I know

[dreman9999]

Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds merged together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.

Evidence? I have sacturay, I have the cerberus base asevidence it's indoctination tech. You have to prove to me that it's biotic since you brought it up. You have no proof of it at all. So if you want to go on any say he has secret biotic powers.....prove it.