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So no one sees that indoctrination is happening to Shepard even if we take the plot as it is?


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balance5050 wrote...

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It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds merged together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.


I like how youre just making things up now.

You should be familiar with the procedure : that's the whole process if making any game content "fit" into any given version of IT.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Let be serious. Theire is only one reason, and it the same reson Why everyone  thinks Shepard  is indoctrinated.


Bad writing?

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does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

Anderson has no implants but he has pent constant contact with reapers and husk on earth ashe fights them... All chances of the startof indocrtination.

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balance5050 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that


Anderson is pure organic as far as I know

thanks so how was TIM controling anderson
and that is the point he shouldnt have been able to

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Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Let be serious. Theire is only one reason, and it the same reson Why everyone  thinks Shepard  is indoctrinated.


Bad writing?

1. Reapers, hush, reaper agents, and reaper tech causes indoctination.

2. Anderson is on earth constatly fight reapersand their forces..
....
Do the math.:whistle:

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We've been through this, TIM isn't biotic, he never mentions that he wants biotic power. All he says is "indoctrination, husks, reaper forces, nanides, etc" You know... reaper stuff.

Also, to be a biotic you need to be exposed to eezo in utero.

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dreman9999 wrote...

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dreman9999 wrote...
It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds merged together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.

Evidence? I have sacturay, I have the cerberus base asevidence it's indoctination tech. You have to prove to me that it's biotic since you brought it up. You have no proof of it at all. So if you want to go on any say he has secret biotic powers.....prove it.

Go fishing your IT "proofs" by yourself, then come back and claim you deserve anything better than what you serve others with your own speculation.

Off to bed, before you get all worked out.

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Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds mergerd together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.


So? Shepard is just a man playing with guns. Still beat reapers. Thresher Maw is just a Sandworm, still brought down a reaper.

Indoctrination is far more prevalent in the series than special operations with no precedent that allow adults to develop biotic powers. You might believe that IT is just fanfiction, but it's certainly more plausible than your biotic theory.

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darthoptimus003 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that


Anderson is pure organic as far as I know

thanks so how was TIM controling anderson
and that is the point he shouldnt have been able to

1. Reapers, hush, reaper agents, and reaper tech causes indoctination.

2. Anderson is on earth constatly fight reapersand their forces..
....
Do the math 

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Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds merged together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.

Evidence? I have sacturay, I have the cerberus base asevidence it's indoctination tech. You have to prove to me that it's biotic since you brought it up. You have no proof of it at all. So if you want to go on any say he has secret biotic powers.....prove it.

Go fishing your IT "proofs" by yourself, then come back and claim you deserve anything better than what you serve others with your own speculation.

Of to bed, before you get all worked out.




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Iconoclaste wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds merged together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.


I like how youre just making things up now.

You should be familiar with the procedure : that's the whole process if making any game content "fit" into any given version of IT.


Indoctrination is a part of the lore, TIM being a biotic isn't.

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dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

Anderson has no implants but he has pent constant contact with reapers and husk on earth ashe fights them... All chances of the startof indocrtination.


If being on the same rock as the Reapers was enough to become indocrtinated then everyone on every world would already be indocrtinated  meaning the war has been lost and the game no longer has a point.

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dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

Anderson has no implants but he has pent constant contact with reapers and husk on earth ashe fights them... All chances of the startof indocrtination.

we have NO evidence of that happening
or for that matter a lot of things in the IT has no evidence

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Iconoclaste wrote...

Go fishing your IT "proofs" by yourself, then come back and claim you deserve anything better than what you serve others with your own speculation.

Off to bed, before you get all worked out.


Ignorance is bliss for some people huh?

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dreman9999 wrote...

Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Let be serious. Theire is only one reason, and it the same reson Why everyone  thinks Shepard  is indoctrinated.


Bad writing?

1. Reapers, hush, reaper agents, and reaper tech causes indoctination.

2. Anderson is on earth constatly fight reapersand their forces..
....
Do the math.:whistle:


I did do the math thats the problem. Too many factors...do you know what Occam's razor is?

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Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

Anderson has no implants but he has pent constant contact with reapers and husk on earth ashe fights them... All chances of the startof indocrtination.


If being on the same rock as the Reapers was enough to become indocrtinated then everyone on every world would already be indocrtinated  meaning the war has been lost and the game no longer has a point.

thank you finnilly some one is saying the same thing as me

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balance5050 wrote...

We've been through this, TIM isn't biotic, he never mentions that he wants biotic power. All he says is "indoctrination, husks, reaper forces, nanides, etc" You know... reaper stuff.

Also, to be a biotic you need to be exposed to eezo in utero.

Or you need to be indoctrinated by the reapers (see dreman's recitation from canon lore).

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Indoctrination is a part of the lore, TIM being a biotic isn't.

The Catalyst neither. But still he appears in the end. Bad idea. I appreciate how bad writing can provide ground for passing time sorting through pcc files to find "clues" that reshape IT every now and then.

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Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

Anderson has no implants but he has pent constant contact with reapers and husk on earth ashe fights them... All chances of the startof indocrtination.


If being on the same rock as the Reapers was enough to become indocrtinated then everyone on every world would already be indocrtinated  meaning the war has been lost and the game no longer has a point.


You do realize that thousands of people are just wandering into the reaper processing plants everyday in the game don't you?

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Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
It's easier to believe it's a biotic power we never seen before or have any signs of biotic powers that would control body movement from a man we never seen learn biotic power who we know spent year studying indoctination and has inplants and bases dedicated to indoctriation who also learn how to us it as well then it is to beleive he is using what he studied about indoctrination on Shepard and Anderson to control them?

Your as bad as the council, Next you'll tell me Sorvergin is really a geth ship.

You have no evidence to the contrary. TIM is a man of "control", he already has developed some related technology (control chips) that could allow such hybrid biotic control. That's not as far a stretch as to believe a simple implant could give him the same power as a 2km computer-machine with thousands of minds merged together. The Reapers have their powers because they are Reapers : ancient, powerful, huge. TIM is just a man playing with tech.

Evidence? I have sacturay, I have the cerberus base asevidence it's indoctination tech. You have to prove to me that it's biotic since you brought it up. You have no proof of it at all. So if you want to go on any say he has secret biotic powers.....prove it.

Go fishing your IT "proofs" by yourself, then come back and claim you deserve anything better than what you serve others with your own speculation.

Of to bed, before you get all worked out.

You know my proof is the plot right and lore, right? Thing stated and shown that  support  findings, not base less assumtions with nothing to point to it. 
I woud just show vid from the game and notes from the lore like I was doing before....Athing you can't do about TIM's secret powers.

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Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Let be serious. Theire is only one reason, and it the same reson Why everyone  thinks Shepard  is indoctrinated.


Bad writing?

1. Reapers, hush, reaper agents, and reaper tech causes indoctination.

2. Anderson is on earth constatly fight reapersand their forces..
....
Do the math.:whistle:


I did do the math thats the problem. Too many factors...do you know what Occam's razor is?


Occams razor = "bad writing LALALA

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darthoptimus003 wrote...

Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

Anderson has no implants but he has pent constant contact with reapers and husk on earth ashe fights them... All chances of the startof indocrtination.


If being on the same rock as the Reapers was enough to become indocrtinated then everyone on every world would already be indocrtinated  meaning the war has been lost and the game no longer has a point.

thank you finnilly some one is saying the same thing as me

How many times do you people need to be told that indoctrination either a) takes time, or B) kills the host in days (before they could be harvested).

Go to the codex in any of the games, and play the entry on indoc.

Derp.

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yeah i seen the 15 min vid sorry its a sinkig caneo up a s*** creek without a paddle

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You know my proof is the plot right and lore, right? Thing stated and shown that  support  findings, not base less assumtions with nothing to point to it. 
I woud just show vid from the game and notes from the lore like I was doing before....Athing you can't do about TIM's secret powers.

This whole "TIM has indoc pawa" is your invention, that's no lore, sorry.

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darthoptimus003 wrote...

Tom Lehrer wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

does anderson have any inplants cause if he dont boom there goes that

Anderson has no implants but he has pent constant contact with reapers and husk on earth ashe fights them... All chances of the startof indocrtination.


If being on the same rock as the Reapers was enough to become indocrtinated then everyone on every world would already be indocrtinated  meaning the war has been lost and the game no longer has a point.

thank you finnilly some one is saying the same thing as me

Do you not understand Anderson is constatly fight the reapers. It not like he's on one side of the planet and the reapers and their forces on the other. Heis commanding in the front lines....Like palvens moon.
That is prolong exposer.