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[GuardianAngel470]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

I hope EA doesn't consider buying Projekt CD. That would be the last straw of straws. There would be no more straws to grasp after that.

If GoG takes off (more than it already has) the only danger of being bought is if the management of CD Projekt takes a suicide dive off a skyscraper. Platforms like GoG and Steam are huge money generators for very little overhead: entirely automated distribution platforms with a nearly infinite number of products available to a global market. If you gain enough customers and have enough games, you're pretty solid financially.

[Tesar]

I'm a big fan of Sapkovsky and played first Witcher a lot. During that time it was a great game I personally think it is on the same level as Mask of the Betrayer and better than original NWN and NWN2. Witcher 2 sets a new quality level for video games by surpassing my previous favorite, Mass Effect and I thought that Bioware would surpass them in their next games, but the truth is cruel as you know...
And about combat system. It is of course completely different because of setting so it's a question of like/dislike. But I'm sure that Witcher (bot of them) provides much more variety in combat and more important it requires using your brain to kill some enemies. Compare to BG and Witcher ME combat is mindless, even on insane (complete all 3 games on insane).

Modifié par Tesar, 11 mai 2012 - 06:01 .

[Darth_Trethon]

Opsrbest wrote...

Well then I guess it's fair to compare WoW to TW2 since it's a western RPG, since as a gamer it's my perogative. Clearly you don't understand the differences in the genre you apparently enjoy playing.

Again. This thread is why, to the exact letter and form, of why EA is able to so effectively plunder and pillage our wallets.

Right....this threat is also responsible for World Wars I and II, people geting sick and the climate change. Anything else i may have missed......oh I know, all traffic accidents everywhere, can't foget that one.

Any particular reasoning behind the nonsense?

[liggy002]

indyracing wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Projekt CD is doing things right.

Went from a no name company to a direct rival to bioware in 2 titles.

Unfortunately, they will, eventually, be bought by some bigger company that sees them as profitable, and they'll change from a company that makes great games, and therefore make money, to a company that makes games to make lots of money.

And thus continues the repeated cycle of great gaming developers going to the profit graveyard, until another one rises to take it's place (because that's what consumers actually want - great games!).

Nobody can predict that this will happen.  History tends to repeat itself in cycles but not 100%, there is always the exception to the rule.  Maybe CDProjekt is that exception.

[B3ckett]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

I hope EA doesn't consider buying Projekt CD. That would be the last straw of straws. There would be no more straws to grasp after that.

CD Prokekt Red is a Polish company owned by CD Projekt Sp. z o.o..

I think it would be quite difficult for EA to buy them.

If I am not mistaken it's the other way around. CDPR is the parent company of both GOG and CD Projekt.

But this aside.

a) Love the Witcher franchise (books & games)
combat in W1 was... different
c) the game was buggy in the beginning
d) bought W2 on the premiere day
e) it was still quite buggy
f) it still looked marvelous on my mediocre PC
g) I enjoyed the game deeply
h) the ending was like a slap in the face. Surprising, but not dumbed down *cough* Casey *cough*
i) yep, they used Bioware's Aurora engine for W1
j) for W2 they used their own Red engine which IMHO has potential

to sum up: I agree that their games needed extended editions to become complete. I agree that they made mistakes along the way. Not one or two, but a bit more.
The only and yet the most important difference is: they acknowledged the fans.
I felt like I meant something when I posted on their forums. They responded to many angry allegations. Kept us updated with the patches and did a helluva work for making W2 a beautiful experience.
Not to mention my favourite: Well we see that DRM f*cks up the original boxed edition. So with the next patch we're taking it off.
BW would at that moment say: No, na-ah. Financial integrity.

I am a fan of CDPR. Because they're the indie kind od dev: small enough to stay independent, big enough to make games like the Witcher. And they give tons of stuff for free for all those who invested their money previously into their games.
Now that's what I call respect for your fans.

[liggy002]

Atakuma wrote...

liggy002 wrote...
It is "actiony" but it stays true to traditional RPG elements unlike Mass Effect 2 and 3.  Mass Effect 3 was supposed to bring these elements back: i.e. multiple towns and more exploration.  However, it did not.

They never said they would be doing any of that. What they promised was deeper customization i.e. expanded skill trees and weapon mods. 

I didn't say that they promised these things.  I am saying that they should have brought these elements back.  Because they did not, the game wasn't as good as it could have been. 

[FatalX7.0]

B3ckett wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

I hope EA doesn't consider buying Projekt CD. That would be the last straw of straws. There would be no more straws to grasp after that.

CD Prokekt Red is a Polish company owned by CD Projekt Sp. z o.o..

I think it would be quite difficult for EA to buy them.

If I am not mistaken it's the other way around. CDPR is the parent company of both GOG and CD Projekt.

But this aside.

a) Love the Witcher franchise (books & games)
combat in W1 was... different
c) the game was buggy in the beginning
d) bought W2 on the premiere day
e) it was still quite buggy
f) it still looked marvelous on my mediocre PC
g) I enjoyed the game deeply
h) the ending was like a slap in the face. Surprising, but not dumbed down *cough* Casey *cough*
i) yep, they used Bioware's Aurora engine for W1
j) for W2 they used their own Red engine which IMHO has potential

to sum up: I agree that their games needed extended editions to become complete. I agree that they made mistakes along the way. Not one or two, but a bit more.
The only and yet the most important difference is: they acknowledged the fans.
I felt like I meant something when I posted on their forums. They responded to many angry allegations. Kept us updated with the patches and did a helluva work for making W2 a beautiful experience.
Not to mention my favourite: Well we see that DRM f*cks up the original boxed edition. So with the next patch we're taking it off.
BW would at that moment say: No, na-ah. Financial integrity.

I am a fan of CDPR. Because they're the indie kind od dev: small enough to stay independent, big enough to make games like the Witcher. And they give tons of stuff for free for all those who invested their money previously into their games.
Now that's what I call respect for your fans.

You are mistaken. CD Projekt RED was founded in 2002 as a development studio of CD Projekt Sp. z o.o..

In February 2008, CD Projekt RED's parent company CD Projekt Sp. z o.o. acquired Metropolis Software development studio, which was subsequently merged with CD Projekt RED.


But then on the other wiki, it has CDP Sp. z o.o. as a subsidiary, and then another CDP Red? As...a subsidiary?


CDP RED S. A. is a parent of CDP Sp. z o.o..

And CDP RED Sp. z o.o. is a subsidiary, which is the direct developer of Witcher. Or is it?

I have no bloody idea, there are like 20 companies listed on these sites and like 5 different CD Projekts.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 11 mai 2012 - 08:24 .

[FatalX7.0]

jreezy wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

CD Projekt can say and/or do whatever they want, but it doesn't matter until they can make a good game to back it all up.

They made two.

Which? As far as I know, they've only made The Witcher 1 &2. 

You answered your own question.

Except he didn't.

Yeah, he did.

[FatalX7.0]

jreezy wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

CD Projekt can say and/or do whatever they want, but it doesn't matter until they can make a good game to back it all up.

They made two.

Which? As far as I know, they've only made The Witcher 1 &2. 

You answered your own question.

Except he didn't.

Yeah, he did.

Maybe you didn't understand what he was saying then.

He was being rude and trying to troll.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 11 mai 2012 - 08:29 .

[MadRabbit999]

Beerfish wrote...
 I tried a number of times to play the witcher but the combat was too horrific for me. I hear it's a great game other wise.

This.....^

Seriously.. I would enjoy more being slapped in the face by a giant fish a hundred times, then to ever play the combat in witcher... most overrated game of the moment...

The game has a point to make though: Put full front female nudity in a game and it will sell and become the best game ever...

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 11 mai 2012 - 08:33 .

[FatalX7.0]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...
 I tried a number of times to play the witcher but the combat was too horrific for me. I hear it's a great game other wise.

This.....^

Seriously.. I would enjoy more being slapped in the face by a giant fish a hundred times, then to ever play the combat in witcher... most overrated game of the moment...

The game has a point to make though: Put full front female nudity in a game and it will sell and become the best game ever...

Since when is it all about the nudity?

And you just suck at the combat. Witcher is an RPG for mature audiences, for adults. It doesn't hold your hand.

I find the combat to be super fun.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 11 mai 2012 - 08:37 .

[stormhit]

Playing the Witcher 2 actually gave me a new appreciation for what Bioware brings to the table in terms of writing. Even taking translation into account, basically every conversation in that game is just a drone of encyclopedic background information or direct plot explanation.

[nitefyre410]

Played the Witcher 2 EE - enjoy the Witcher 2 EE. They have potential but I still need to see more. This was quote was nothing more than a good PR chance sell their game. I'm going to need to see more from them.   Not the most brillant story every... they did not recreate the wheel like most people are saying.

And no EA is not going to buy them considering that TOR is bleeding subs... badly. From that article I have read earlier this weak.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 11 mai 2012 - 08:44 .

[MadRabbit999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...
 I tried a number of times to play the witcher but the combat was too horrific for me. I hear it's a great game other wise.

This.....^

Seriously.. I would enjoy more being slapped in the face by a giant fish a hundred times, then to ever play the combat in witcher... most overrated game of the moment...

The game has a point to make though: Put full front female nudity in a game and it will sell and become the best game ever...

Since when is it all about the nudity?

And you just suck at the combat. Witcher is an RPG for mature audiences, for adults. It doesn't hold your hand.

I find the combat to be super fun.

Since most review articles put a naked chick o ntheir front page to review Witcher...

I said I do not like it.. so I suck? I see your logic... ok this is for you then "The ending of Mass Effect 3 makes sense, it is you who is too sputid to understand them" how does it feel?

LOL game for adults... right... did you seriously say that an emo character videogame RPG is for adults???

Sorry.. you were right, the combat is fun..... click..1,2,3. click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3.... *yawn* click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3..... YEAH THIS CUMBAT IS FUN!!!!

[Peregrin25]

This just goes to show that EA/BioWare are already becoming the infamous name in the gaming industry. They are being used as example of what not to do. I hope people from now on and in the future take what BioWare did and expand on their mistakes. Hopefully for the better of the gaming industry. Maybe what BioWare did was necessary to prove to the world that big companies are willing to lie to your face out right and try to defend their work with more lies and being caught in the process and still denying it.

Maybe things for the gaming world could get better from this huge uproar of controversy.

[CrazyBirdman]

The Witcher od The Witcher 2:Assassins of Kings are both exeptional games but honestly I do not really think the handle choice particulary well. The choice at the end of chapter 1 for example did not felt important as I was choosing between the paths. I just did the for me obvious and never thought that I would decide the outcome of the next chapter. The first chapter did a great job showing me Flotsam and the forest around it but had too little emphasis on the really important themes of the story I felt. In the end The Witcher 2 had a really good basic approach but failed to make the choices feel impact. In all of the Mass Effect games it is quite the opposite, often times descision that feel meaningful don't effectivly influence the story but to me the feeling I get from the dialogue is more important than the outcome.The Witcher games are for that reason not about choice and consequence but for the beautiful, vivid world CDProjekt creates. For me all of their choices feel like the ending choice in ME3, theoretically really meaningful and with great impact but poorly executed because not properly introduced. If BioWare should learn from CRProjekt something that how to create worlds like Flotsam(Kirkwall, I am looking at you). Regarding the gameplay of the Witcher series, the first one was fun for the first 20 hours, the second one was horribly balanced, the first chapter unbelievable unfair(Leto was the most stupid bossfight I ever fought) and the second and third incredible easy. It also felt to much like Fable, expect that you can actually die (and that really fast). Nothing mature about it.

[FatalX7.0]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...
 I tried a number of times to play the witcher but the combat was too horrific for me. I hear it's a great game other wise.

This.....^

Seriously.. I would enjoy more being slapped in the face by a giant fish a hundred times, then to ever play the combat in witcher... most overrated game of the moment...

The game has a point to make though: Put full front female nudity in a game and it will sell and become the best game ever...

Since when is it all about the nudity?

And you just suck at the combat. Witcher is an RPG for mature audiences, for adults. It doesn't hold your hand.

I find the combat to be super fun.

Since most review articles put a naked chick o ntheir front page to review Witcher...

I said I do not like it.. so I suck? I see your logic... ok this is for you then "The ending of Mass Effect 3 makes sense, it is you who is too sputid to understand them" how does it feel?

LOL game for adults... right... did you seriously say that an emo character videogame RPG is for adults???

Sorry.. you were right, the combat is fun..... click..1,2,3. click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3.... *yawn* click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3..... YEAH THIS CUMBAT IS FUN!!!!

I don't know how to begin addressing such an immature and ignorant reply.

Please don't use so many ellipses and work on your grammar before you try and insult the intelligence of another human being.

For some odd reason, you take my opinion as fact.

CDP said that Witcher is for adults, and I'm not even sure where you could ever get "emo" from, which is a style of music.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 11 mai 2012 - 09:04 .

[MadRabbit999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...
 I tried a number of times to play the witcher but the combat was too horrific for me. I hear it's a great game other wise.

This.....^

Seriously.. I would enjoy more being slapped in the face by a giant fish a hundred times, then to ever play the combat in witcher... most overrated game of the moment...

The game has a point to make though: Put full front female nudity in a game and it will sell and become the best game ever...

Since when is it all about the nudity?

And you just suck at the combat. Witcher is an RPG for mature audiences, for adults. It doesn't hold your hand.

I find the combat to be super fun.

Since most review articles put a naked chick o ntheir front page to review Witcher...

I said I do not like it.. so I suck? I see your logic... ok this is for you then "The ending of Mass Effect 3 makes sense, it is you who is too sputid to understand them" how does it feel?

LOL game for adults... right... did you seriously say that an emo character videogame RPG is for adults???

Sorry.. you were right, the combat is fun..... click..1,2,3. click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3.... *yawn* click..1,2,3.... click..1,2,3..... YEAH THIS CUMBAT IS FUN!!!!

I don't know how to begin addressing such an immature and ignorant reply.

Yeah.. now you know how I felt when I read your very mature reply "And you just suck at the combat. "

[FatalX7.0]

Read the rest of my post.

And no, I don't know how you feel. I feel nothing.

I don't care how you feel.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 11 mai 2012 - 09:07 .

[FatalX7.0]

simfamSP wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

SirCroft wrote...

On top of that the game has 16 different endings depending on gamers choices throughout the whole game.

Just... lol.

CD Projekt promised 16 endings before Witcher 2 was released in 2011.

But when people got to the ending, it made no sense, nothing was answered and there was no closure. And the dragon was a bit lame, apparently.

So, they revised the ending and made 10 more gigs of content.

WTF? Seriously? Who comes up with this conclusion? 15 year olds on meth?

Bunch of people on forums throughout the internet.

[FatalX7.0]

Also, reviewers =/= game developers.

A reviewer using an explicit or revealing picture does not make the game all about nudity. Though, sex is a part of it.

If sex or seeing a naked woman is such a problem for you, you should get off the internet and work on that.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 11 mai 2012 - 09:10 .