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[Orkfaeller]

liggy002 wrote...

Zolt51 wrote...

Much as I love CD Projekt and the Witcher games.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

It's not like the Witcher 1 and 2 didn't both need an extended edition to truly fulfill their potential. Bioware is doing that, so everyone should go their merry way, right?

We don't know what Bioware is doing yet.  What if the EC doesn't turn out to be what we expected?  I think it will be good but who the hell knows?

Well we kind of do, dont we?

Didnt BW already say that there wont be any gameplay in the EC, only  Dialogue, Cutscenes and maybe Text Boxes (like in DA) ?

[Karolus_V]

Tirranek wrote...

Obsidian is easily the equal to both of these companies when it comes to story, if not better in some ways

(I'm aware their games often ship with more bugs in them than a 1980s sofa from Kathmandu)

I don't know what to say to this.  Kotor 2 was awful for me. Neverwinter Nights 2, until the second expansion, awful. Alpha protocol was ok though.

P.D:Anyway, not counting bugs, the most important fail Obsidian makes...is technical. Their games graphics are bad technically speaking, and in design(artistically)...they are plain bad. I really dont know why people praises their games so much, especially Neverwinter Nights 2,the game that killed Neverwinter nights community with the pitiful multiplayer implementation(apart from horrible campaign).

[Darth_Trethon]

Subject M wrote...

The sex cards of Witcher 1 was not exactly a high point, the same goes for the "playboy shoot".
Sleazy and cheap.

It does seem like CDPr have a problem with gender stereotypes, and so on, but I think the sexual nudity in Witcher 2 was OK as it was not forced, but integrated well in the story. The game itself seems to aim towards giving the player a "fuller" experience of what it means being Geralt, and that of course involves some sexual nudity.

Anyway, Witcher 2 is a great game. Yes, its better then ME3 and DA2, despite its faults (like combat, combat movement, gender stereotypes etc).

I'll take the sex cards any day over what BioWare did.....chickened out and went into lame fully clothed "sex" after Fox News lied and tried to incite a scandal....first things first, Fox News should have been dragged through every possible court room and made to pay severely for their lies, then if I was in BioWare's place I would have taken sexual content in ME2 and ME3 even further than Witcher 2 just to shove it down the throats of Fox News....I'm talking full nudity with player interaction and everything. Optional of course and avoidable even within the romance content,

[Subject M]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Subject M wrote...

The sex cards of Witcher 1 was not exactly a high point, the same goes for the "playboy shoot".
Sleazy and cheap.

It does seem like CDPr have a problem with gender stereotypes, and so on, but I think the sexual nudity in Witcher 2 was OK as it was not forced, but integrated well in the story. The game itself seems to aim towards giving the player a "fuller" experience of what it means being Geralt, and that of course involves some sexual nudity.

Anyway, Witcher 2 is a great game. Yes, its better then ME3 and DA2, despite its faults (like combat, combat movement, gender stereotypes etc).

I'll take the sex cards any day over what BioWare did.....chickened out and went into lame fully clothed "sex" after Fox News lied and tried to incite a scandal....first things first, Fox News should have been dragged through every possible court room and made to pay severely for their lies, then if I was in BioWare's place I would have taken sexual content in ME2 and ME3 even further than Witcher 2 just to shove it down the throats of Fox News....I'm talking full nudity with player interaction and everything. Optional of course and avoidable even within the romance content,

The sex cards was pretty damn bad. I mean, sexual relations with woman are "conquests" earning you a trophy?
For serious?! That stinks pretty bad.

But I am all for nude sex-scenes as long as they are well integrated into the story, not overly explicit and properly motivated.

Modifié par Subject M, 11 mai 2012 - 01:51 .

[Darth_Trethon]

Subject M wrote...

The sex cards was pretty damn bad. I mean, sexual relations with woman are "conquests" earning you a trophy?
For serious?! That stinks pretty bad.

But I am all for nude sex-scenes as long as they are well integrated into the story, not overly explicit and properly motivated.

Well I don't agree with it or anything but the kind of people I've been around and their attitudes......well.....let's say it makes the whole card issue look like E rated content to me.

[Karolus_V]

The sex cards are optional, you can ignore the search for them. About stereotypes in the game..remember, is based in a series of novels, with a lore and setting already defined. A good one, with some white, grey and black.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Drake-Shepard wrote...

EA/BW- over 75 perfect scores!!

CD Projekt - please go and see user reviews at metacritic and gamer opinions under youtube videos etc

I know which one I trust

Neither. I don't put faith in either side since they are always filled with extremes. Unless a game has been out for several years and the hype is gone aways I will not touch them. I will grab a demo of a game try it out and if I like it buy it. Also I would ask my personal friends their opinion of a game if they played it.

[Tirranek]

Karolus_V wrote...

The sex cards are optional, you can ignore the search for them. About stereotypes in the game..remember, is based in a series of novels, with a lore and setting already defined. A good one, with some white, grey and black.

They're not optional enough. I don't have a problem with sex in games but when you're essentially made to do it in order to resolve certain quests, then that's an issue.

[iorveth1271]

Tirranek wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...

The sex cards are optional, you can ignore the search for them. About stereotypes in the game..remember, is based in a series of novels, with a lore and setting already defined. A good one, with some white, grey and black.

They're not optional enough. I don't have a problem with sex in games but when you're essentially made to do it in order to resolve certain quests, then that's an issue.

There is no quest that needs a sex card to be resolved. Saying so is a lie.

[Ender99]

I'm playing The Witcher 2 right now, and I have been extremely impressed. I have never played a CD Projekt game before, but I will be following them in the future.

My choices seem to actually matter, imagine that.

[Evanz]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

I hope EA doesn't consider buying Projekt CD. That would be the last straw of straws. There would be no more straws to grasp after that.

don't you even dare to suggest such things here.

remember... they are listening!

[Evanz]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Subject M wrote...

The sex cards of Witcher 1 was not exactly a high point, the same goes for the "playboy shoot".
Sleazy and cheap.

It does seem like CDPr have a problem with gender stereotypes, and so on, but I think the sexual nudity in Witcher 2 was OK as it was not forced, but integrated well in the story. The game itself seems to aim towards giving the player a "fuller" experience of what it means being Geralt, and that of course involves some sexual nudity.

Anyway, Witcher 2 is a great game. Yes, its better then ME3 and DA2, despite its faults (like combat, combat movement, gender stereotypes etc).

I'll take the sex cards any day over what BioWare did.....chickened out and went into lame fully clothed "sex" after Fox News lied and tried to incite a scandal....I'm talking full nudity with player interaction and everything. Optional of course and avoidable even within the romance content,

@Subject M
Geralt is a character from a series of novels (pretty damn good one btw) based in sort of a medieval/renesance world but with it's own story and twists. World is sure "ugly & dirty" in some cases, which is why it is so good. I am sick and tired of all those "full metal p3n1s" fantasy/sci-fi worlds, where you have assassins, necromancers, slavers and bloodthirsty gods, but boobs (.Y.) never happen. Cause, you know, it is healthy and proper for 12+ y old kiddo to cut off heads and arms, make bloody sacrifices and trade slaves - but boobs would cause harm to their delicate psyche.


@Darth_Trethon
Totally. Romance, boobs, building house, kids... or not. But having a choice would be nice.

[knightnblu]

SirCroft wrote...

On top of that the game has 16 different endings depending on gamers choices throughout the whole game.

Just... lol.

Indeed, makes you wonder where Casey got his talking points doesn't it?

[charmedmeat]

Cyne wrote...

Uh, that sounded more like a not-so-subtle promotion for Witcher/Witcher2 than an honest look at ME3's ending (excerpt only). Though I do agree with him, choices are extremely important in an RPG. The fact that bioware's folks specifically said prior to the release of the game that our choices would impact the ending, makes it that much worse that they didn't. Or at least, not to an appreciable extent.

Did you really expect a different result from a CEO?

[Persephone]

Ender99 wrote...

I'm playing The Witcher 2 right now, and I have been extremely impressed. I have never played a CD Projekt game before, but I will be following them in the future.

My choices seem to actually matter, imagine that.

IN GAME. Choices matter IN GAME in ME3 as well. Except: CDPR spat on every choice made in TW1, even writing out a whole LI without explanation. To "fix" it later with a...tadaaaaaaaaa......codex. Lame. If Bioware did that, they'd be crucified. But CDPR, the new Messiah, gets away with it.

CDPR CEO's response here is pure, calculated (If brilliant) PR. The rookie taking a shot at the reeling veteran without having achieved half as much or having had half as long a career or legacy. And the outright lie about 16 endings....yeah, whatever.

CDPR is playing Eve Harrington to Bioware's Margo Channing. Simple as that.

Modifié par Persephone, 11 mai 2012 - 06:22 .

[Mr.House]

Persephone wrote...

Ender99 wrote...

I'm playing The Witcher 2 right now, and I have been extremely impressed. I have never played a CD Projekt game before, but I will be following them in the future.

My choices seem to actually matter, imagine that.

IN GAME. Choices matter IN GAME in ME3 as well. Except: CDPR spat on every choice made in TW1, even writing out a whole LI without explanation. To "fix" it later with a...tadaaaaaaaaa......codex. Lame. If Bioware did that, they'd be crucified. But CDPR, the new Messiah, gets away with it.

CDPR CEO's response here is pure, calculated (If brilliant) PR. The rookie taking a shot at the reeling veteran without having achieved half as much or having had half as long a career or legacy. And the outright lie about 16 endings....yeah, whatever.

CDPR is playing Eve Harrington to Bioware's Margo Channing. Simple as that.

No they don't. If they did then we would get an ending that is reflected by those choices and does not make all past choices useless.

Modifié par Mr.House, 11 mai 2012 - 06:37 .

[nitefyre410]

Evanz wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Subject M wrote...

The sex cards of Witcher 1 was not exactly a high point, the same goes for the "playboy shoot".
Sleazy and cheap.

It does seem like CDPr have a problem with gender stereotypes, and so on, but I think the sexual nudity in Witcher 2 was OK as it was not forced, but integrated well in the story. The game itself seems to aim towards giving the player a "fuller" experience of what it means being Geralt, and that of course involves some sexual nudity.

Anyway, Witcher 2 is a great game. Yes, its better then ME3 and DA2, despite its faults (like combat, combat movement, gender stereotypes etc).

I'll take the sex cards any day over what BioWare did.....chickened out and went into lame fully clothed "sex" after Fox News lied and tried to incite a scandal....I'm talking full nudity with player interaction and everything. Optional of course and avoidable even within the romance content,

@Subject M
Geralt is a character from a series of novels (pretty damn good one btw) based in sort of a medieval/renesance world but with it's own story and twists. World is sure "ugly & dirty" in some cases, which is why it is so good. I am sick and tired of all those "full metal p3n1s" fantasy/sci-fi worlds, where you have assassins, necromancers, slavers and bloodthirsty gods, but boobs (.Y.) never happen. Cause, you know, it is healthy and proper for 12+ y old kiddo to cut off heads and arms, make bloody sacrifices and trade slaves - but boobs would cause harm to their delicate psyche.


@Darth_Trethon
Totally. Romance, boobs, building house, kids... or not. But having a choice would be nice.

 

You have no idea how much this made me laugh and how much I agree with you... I have never saw what the big deal about the cards were anyway... just  collectable in game art nothing more else in may eyes.    Like I said its the craziest thing ...  people what  murder and pillage but dear loard  show an womans naked breast and everyone startes  scream  "SEXIST" or "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" sometimes both.  

[upsettingshorts]

I'm in complete concurrence with Persephone here.

The only company actually trying to do real justice to both savegame import continuity and the always-nebulous concept of "choices that matter" is BioWare. As these are conflicting goals, they manage it with mixed success.

The ending of Mass Effect 3 shouldn't have been a problem as there is no ME4, so their failings in that respect are particularly egregious.

However, on balance, CDPR doesn't even attempt half of what BioWare does from title-to-title so it's not the same.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 mai 2012 - 06:40 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

He's not going to rip a competitor, nor is he going to say anything that might offend any fans of that competitor. He's going to dodge the question and promote his own product, which I might says is a fine one indeed. The game does get a solid 8.8 so far from me.

[Persephone]

Mr.House wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Ender99 wrote...

I'm playing The Witcher 2 right now, and I have been extremely impressed. I have never played a CD Projekt game before, but I will be following them in the future.

My choices seem to actually matter, imagine that.

IN GAME. Choices matter IN GAME in ME3 as well. Except: CDPR spat on every choice made in TW1, even writing out a whole LI without explanation. To "fix" it later with a...tadaaaaaaaaa......codex. Lame. If Bioware did that, they'd be crucified. But CDPR, the new Messiah, gets away with it.

CDPR CEO's response here is pure, calculated (If brilliant) PR. The rookie taking a shot at the reeling veteran without having achieved half as much or having had half as long a career or legacy. And the outright lie about 16 endings....yeah, whatever.

CDPR is playing Eve Harrington to Bioware's Margo Channing. Simple as that.

No they don't. If they did then we would get an ending that is reflected by those choices and does not make all past choices useless.

The game is more to me than the last five minutes.

Modifié par Persephone, 11 mai 2012 - 06:54 .

[Documental]

Mr.House wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Ender99 wrote...

I'm playing The Witcher 2 right now, and I have been extremely impressed. I have never played a CD Projekt game before, but I will be following them in the future.

My choices seem to actually matter, imagine that.

IN GAME. Choices matter IN GAME in ME3 as well. Except: CDPR spat on every choice made in TW1, even writing out a whole LI without explanation. To "fix" it later with a...tadaaaaaaaaa......codex. Lame. If Bioware did that, they'd be crucified. But CDPR, the new Messiah, gets away with it.

CDPR CEO's response here is pure, calculated (If brilliant) PR. The rookie taking a shot at the reeling veteran without having achieved half as much or having had half as long a career or legacy. And the outright lie about 16 endings....yeah, whatever.

CDPR is playing Eve Harrington to Bioware's Margo Channing. Simple as that.

No they don't. If they did then we would get an ending that is reflected by those choices and does not make all past choices useless.

Entire Tuchunka mission is based on choices from the past two games, as is the Rannoch mission and most of the game. The ending poorly executed any choices you made, that is true but don't say that your choices didn't matter at all.

Seriously, I can get people hating on the ending but saying that your choices didn't matter at any point in the game is ****ing stupid.

[Persephone]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I'm in complete concurrence with Persephone here.

The only company actually trying to do real justice to both savegame import continuity and the always-nebulous concept of "choices that matter" is BioWare. As these are conflicting goals, they manage it with mixed success.

The ending of Mass Effect 3 shouldn't have been a problem as there is no ME4, so their failings in that respect are particularly egregious.

However, on balance, CDPR doesn't even attempt half of what BioWare does from title-to-title so it's not the same.

Precisely.

Much as I adore TW2....CDPR's "Import" system is a joke. What does it change? 2 lines of dialogue and ONE cameo? And never mind EVERYTHING it ignores.

[Persephone]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

He's not going to rip a competitor, nor is he going to say anything that might offend any fans of that competitor. He's going to dodge the question and promote his own product, which I might says is a fine one indeed. The game does get a solid 8.8 so far from me.

Oh, he's taking a rip alright, but like the aforementioned Eve Harrington, he's subtle about it.

Need I mention that I consider people like Eve Harrington to be utterly despicable?

I'm beginning to like CDPR less and less. Won't change how much I love their games.

Modifié par Persephone, 11 mai 2012 - 06:53 .

[The Protheans]

Persephone wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I'm in complete concurrence with Persephone here.

The only company actually trying to do real justice to both savegame import continuity and the always-nebulous concept of "choices that matter" is BioWare. As these are conflicting goals, they manage it with mixed success.

The ending of Mass Effect 3 shouldn't have been a problem as there is no ME4, so their failings in that respect are particularly egregious.

However, on balance, CDPR doesn't even attempt half of what BioWare does from title-to-title so it's not the same.

Precisely.

Much as I adore TW2....CDPR's "Import" system is a joke. What does it change? 2 lines of dialogue and ONE cameo? And never mind EVERYTHING it ignores.

 I can understand why a Witcher 1 import has little impact on The Witcher 2 since the 2 games have very little in common storywise.

Good enough for me, I never played TW1.
Mass effect playthoughs don't even change the story.

[Persephone]

The Protheans wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I'm in complete concurrence with Persephone here.

The only company actually trying to do real justice to both savegame import continuity and the always-nebulous concept of "choices that matter" is BioWare. As these are conflicting goals, they manage it with mixed success.

The ending of Mass Effect 3 shouldn't have been a problem as there is no ME4, so their failings in that respect are particularly egregious.

However, on balance, CDPR doesn't even attempt half of what BioWare does from title-to-title so it's not the same.

Precisely.

Much as I adore TW2....CDPR's "Import" system is a joke. What does it change? 2 lines of dialogue and ONE cameo? And never mind EVERYTHING it ignores.

 I can understand why a Witcher 1 import has little impact on The Witcher 2 since the 2 games have very little in common storywise.

Good enough for me, I never played TW1.
Mass effect playthoughs don't even change the story.

What kind of explanation is THAT?

TW2 is the direct SEQUEL to the first, so no, there is NO excuse for it. Why HAVE an import system anyway?

And ME playthroughs sure change the story. I several very different Sheps. I only ever had...one Geralt of Rivia.

Here's the thing: Bioware makes character driven games and stumbles on the larger world scale. CDPR makes stories on a larger scale but neglects character development (protagonist) and negates previously established characters (Protagonist, Shani, Triss is utterly ruined....) I LOVE them both. Warts and all.