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CD Projekt Red's CEO - His opinion on the ending of Mass Effect 3


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Beerfish wrote...

Too bad the ceo didn't realize that in games where combat is essential you don't want to give your customers karpal tunnel syndrome. I tried a number of times to play the witcher but the combat was too horrific for me. I hear it's a great game other wise.




Update your game if you are playing on PC.  I understand your complaint but since the updates thats taken care of for the most part and since the updates are free...........

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Tritium315 wrote...

Zolt51 wrote...

Much as I love CD Projekt and the Witcher games.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

It's not like the Witcher 1 and 2 didn't both need an extended edition to truly fulfill their potential. Bioware is doing that, so everyone should go their merry way, right?


Except they did it to make the games better, not because there was massive fan outcry about them being ****. By and large people were pleased with both games.

The extended editions for witcher 1/2 made great games amazing. The EC for ME3 will make an awful ending hopefully less awful (unless all they do is "clarify").


Wrong, The Witcher 1 was full of bugs when it came out, and people were upset.

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ZackG312 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Too bad the ceo didn't realize that in games where combat is essential you don't want to give your customers karpal tunnel syndrome. I tried a number of times to play the witcher but the combat was too horrific for me. I hear it's a great game other wise.


The combat isn't supposed to be easy and simple.

They don't hold your hand like too many games do nowadays.

That is true I died so many time fighting Letho last night, but always got closer to beating him.


I prefer when combat is a lot harder, maybe even a little annoying.

Like in Dark Souls? Man, did I feel accomplished when I finally killed something after 19329456 tries.

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Deemz wrote...

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Projekt CD is doing things right.

Went from a no name company to a direct rival to bioware in 2 titles.


While using a Bioware game engine too


I was aware they used it for the first game before changing it to their  own current engine. If you were not a complete moron you would know they use RED engine which they made and looks better than anything bioware has ever created. Also you are aware that bioware use the Unreal engine made by Epic games for all their games right?

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ZackG312 wrote...

Tritium315 wrote...

Zolt51 wrote...

Much as I love CD Projekt and the Witcher games.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

It's not like the Witcher 1 and 2 didn't both need an extended edition to truly fulfill their potential. Bioware is doing that, so everyone should go their merry way, right?


Except they did it to make the games better, not because there was massive fan outcry about them being ****. By and large people were pleased with both games.

The extended editions for witcher 1/2 made great games amazing. The EC for ME3 will make an awful ending hopefully less awful (unless all they do is "clarify").


Wrong, The Witcher 1 was full of bugs when it came out, and people were upset.


Which they took care of.

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Ariella wrote...

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Wait, the CEO of CD Projekt Red saying his company is better? STOP THE PRESSES!
Also, why is inventory management an essential part of rpgs? I've managed my inventory more in RE4 than any rpg I've ever played.


Well, I managed it far more in Mass Effect (with irony).

Does swearing because you have to break down the geth weapon you finally managed to get as a drop because you reached the abitrary limit of weapons and armor you can have count? In my opinion, ME2+3 does much better in terms of inventory than the first game did.


A-freakin'-men. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. When CDPR comes out with its own original IP rather than mining someone else's world for games, then we'll see how sucessful they are, until then, they're a two title company who hasn't really done much of anything on the international gaming stage.



The Witcher 2 got a 9.5 and looks freaking incredible on PC, thats has to count for something.

and rumors on websites say that they are making a new SCI-FI IP.  Cant wait to see it.

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Ji99saw wrote...

Deemz wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Projekt CD is doing things right.

Went from a no name company to a direct rival to bioware in 2 titles.


While using a Bioware game engine too


I was aware they used it for the first game before changing it to their  own current engine. If you were not a complete moron you would know they use RED engine which they made and looks better than anything bioware has ever created. Also you are aware that bioware use the Unreal engine made by Epic games for all their games right?


It's not necessary to be rude.

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Zolt51 wrote...

Much as I love CD Projekt and the Witcher games.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

It's not like the Witcher 1 and 2 didn't both need an extended edition to truly fulfill their potential. Bioware is doing that, so everyone should go their merry way, right?


Bioware is not doing that.

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

ZackG312 wrote...

Tritium315 wrote...

Zolt51 wrote...

Much as I love CD Projekt and the Witcher games.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

It's not like the Witcher 1 and 2 didn't both need an extended edition to truly fulfill their potential. Bioware is doing that, so everyone should go their merry way, right?


Except they did it to make the games better, not because there was massive fan outcry about them being ****. By and large people were pleased with both games.

The extended editions for witcher 1/2 made great games amazing. The EC for ME3 will make an awful ending hopefully less awful (unless all they do is "clarify").


Wrong, The Witcher 1 was full of bugs when it came out, and people were upset.


Which they took care of.

hell yeah I agree, and happy about. Love The witcher games

But I was just pointing out that they saw the complaints and did something about them, unlike some other company we all know. Image IPB

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ZackG312 wrote...


and rumors on websites say that they are making a new SCI-FI IP.  Cant wait to see it.



they are making a new SCI-FI IP



Please be real :crying:

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CD project red is not as great with choices as people would like to think. Importing a witcher 1 game? Congratulations, you get 1 letter if you saved some dude, a small change to some lines if you saved a princess and only one of the three endings changes what happens by giving an extra character.
Hope they have a better import feature for the next game. (However, I really enjoyed both of the games).

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I've downloaded TW2 enhanced edition but I haven't played it yet. The game kind of drags at the start of chapter 1. I've already played through twice and didn't see anything wrong with the original ending...knowing that another game is coming. The first time through I missed the connection and had no idea I had inadvertently killed Saskia, quite horrifying. IMO the gameplay is TW2 biggest problem, it's just not quite compelling enough although it was a big improvement on TW1. Some other game mechanics, like just going through doors, are clunky. The storyline is amazing though.

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ZackG312 wrote...


and rumors on websites say that they are making a new SCI-FI IP.  Cant wait to see it.


Good. I need a sci-fi RPG that doesn't go out of its way to intentionally take a big steamy dump on the game world.

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revo76 wrote...

ZackG312 wrote...


and rumors on websites say that they are making a new SCI-FI IP.  Cant wait to see it.



they are making a new SCI-FI IP



Please be real :crying:

heres a link ( nothing has been confirmed by CD projeckt) and pic is funny

http://www.pcgamer.c...ould-be-sci-fi/

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When bioware has an alternate source of revenue, pay's their employees fifty percent less, and has an absentee parent company, then the comparisons to CDPR will be valid. Untill then, Bioware simply cannot do what RED do, and it's unfair to criticize them for it.

Modifié par Atakuma, 10 mai 2012 - 08:30 .


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Bizantura wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Too bad the ceo didn't realize that in games where combat is essential you don't want to give your customers karpal tunnel syndrome. I tried a number of times to play the witcher but the combat was too horrific for me. I hear it's a great game other wise.




Update your game if you are playing on PC.  I understand your complaint but since the updates thats taken care of for the most part and since the updates are free...........


How? I didn't really notice a difference. I'm assuming beerfish is talking about all the dodging, that is still there. You don't, and never did, have to play that way though. You can basically use bombs and magic through 95% of the game. There are odd occasions you still have to do a lot of dodging though.

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Zix13 wrote...

Great response. Questions regarding competitors are always awkward.


Very true. They may be competitors, but they don't want to be in Twitter fights constantly. 

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

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I hope EA doesn't consider buying Projekt CD. That would be the last straw of straws. There would be no more straws to grasp after that.


CD Prokekt Red is a Polish company owned by CD Projekt Sp. z o.o..

I think it would be quite difficult for EA to buy them.


Why? As far as I am aware there is no law that stops american companies buying polish companies? Didn't EA buy Bioware for 600 million or something? I would be seriously surprised if CD Prokekt turned down such an offer if it came.

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Witcher 2 baby. I support CD projeckt red all the way

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liggy002 wrote...

Ariella wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Wait, the CEO of CD Projekt Red saying his company is better? STOP THE PRESSES!
Also, why is inventory management an essential part of rpgs? I've managed my inventory more in RE4 than any rpg I've ever played.


Well, I managed it far more in Mass Effect (with irony).

Does swearing because you have to break down the geth weapon you finally managed to get as a drop because you reached the abitrary limit of weapons and armor you can have count? In my opinion, ME2+3 does much better in terms of inventory than the first game did.


A-freakin'-men. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. When CDPR comes out with its own original IP rather than mining someone else's world for games, then we'll see how sucessful they are, until then, they're a two title company who hasn't really done much of anything on the international gaming stage.





I guarantee you they'll be successful.  Their first two games have sold very well and they go the extra mile for gamers.  They provide them with a lot of value for thier money.  I only paid $10 for the first Witcher.  That's a hell of a value.  Anyone who knocks the Witcher doesn't know what  a good RPG is.


Really? I find the Pixilated characterization of Geralt much worse than those in the short stories by the actual author. The first Witcher was sexist in the extreme (collect cards for getting some?). Comat is clunky in the first, unbalanced in the second. Neither game has all that much customization of Geralt, especially in the beginning of 2.

Quest for Glory series was a great RPG series. Customization of character within the line with the story, good storytelling, decent combat system that doesn't tie one's fingers in knots. Great NPCs to interact with, humor. Generally considered by many (both critics and fans of RPGs) to be one of the best cRPGs of all time. You get little to none of that in Witcher.

Ultima (up to number 7), Larian's Divine Divinity and Divinity 2, Dragon Age Origins,  Jade Empire, Kingdom of Amular:Reckoning are all wonderful original RPGs in my opinion, and make being an RPG fan great.

You may think Witcher 1/2 are the greatest gifts to RP gamers, but that's not universal.

CDPR has 2 games on the market, neither of which can deviate all that much from the source material, nor do they even attempt to tell original stories in the world (ala Balder's Gate 1/2 etc), everything revolves around Geralt, and that's it. In my opinion, that's not a cRPG, and ironically, it's what kept me from playing the original Mass Effect for some time because I though it was only "John Shepard" with no female counterpart and no customization.

Let's see CDPR tell a story without Geralt. Let's see them take the time to develop their own world outside of the Witcher series. Then we'll see if CDPR is really in Bioware's league, until then the CEO of CDPR can talk about RPGs till he's blue in the face, but it's a lot easier to build on someone else's sucess than build from scratch.

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You posted a sales pitch for witcher 2 disguised as a response to the question asked instead of actually answering the question, you must be very happy about that.

Downer mode over, I take back non of what I typed.

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Zolt51 wrote...

Much as I love CD Projekt and the Witcher games.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

It's not like the Witcher 1 and 2 didn't both need an extended edition to truly fulfill their potential. Bioware is doing that, so everyone should go their merry way, right?


The Witcher 2 Enhanced edition adds about 4 hours of gameplay and cinematics, I doubt ME3 Extended cut will add more than 5 minutes of explaining space magic and shoveling in some dirt into those massive plot holes.

TW2 EE polishes an already great game with more goodness while ME3 EC tries to explain an ending noone understands.
It's kinda like CDPR polishing their gold brick while BW is poishing the turd that is the ending...

There's a big difference between adding stuff to make the game fulfill its full potential, and having to explain what the heck just happened.

Anyways, I'm hoping the extended cut will make the ending bareable, because I really want to go back to loving ME again.

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xsdob wrote...

You posted a sales pitch for witcher 2 disguised as a response to the question asked instead of actually answering the question, you must be very happy about that.

Downer mode over, I take back non of what I typed.


Fans....we are all fans, all we do is advertise one thing or another.....or De-advertise in the case of ME3 endings

Modifié par Dendio1, 10 mai 2012 - 08:38 .


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TheHugoGamer wrote...

CD project red is not as great with choices as people would like to think. Importing a witcher 1 game? Congratulations, you get 1 letter if you saved some dude, a small change to some lines if you saved a princess and only one of the three endings changes what happens by giving an extra character.
Hope they have a better import feature for the next game. (However, I really enjoyed both of the games).


Doesn't sound much different than three line cameos, and e-mails that ME2 and ME3 provided.