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[ShepnTali]

ZackG312 wrote...

revo76 wrote...

ZackG312 wrote...


and rumors on websites say that they are making a new SCI-FI IP.  Cant wait to see it.

they are making a new SCI-FI IP



Please be real

heres a link ( nothing has been confirmed by CD projeckt) and pic is funny

http://www.pcgamer.c...ould-be-sci-fi/

Yes please!!!

[Dendio1]

Tony77A wrote...

Zolt51 wrote...

Much as I love CD Projekt and the Witcher games.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

It's not like the Witcher 1 and 2 didn't both need an extended edition to truly fulfill their potential. Bioware is doing that, so everyone should go their merry way, right?

The Witcher 2 Enhanced edition adds about 4 hours of gameplay and cinematics, I doubt ME3 Extended cut will add more than 5 minutes of explaining space magic and shoveling in some dirt into those massive plot holes.

TW2 EE polishes an already great game with more goodness while ME3 EC tries to explain an ending noone understands.
It's kinda like CDPR polishing their gold brick while BW is poishing the turd that is the ending...

There's a big difference between adding stuff to make the game fulfill its full potential, and having to explain what the heck just happened.

Anyways, I'm hoping the extended cut will make the ending bareable, because I really want to go back to loving ME again.

Its more than 5 minutes and you know it. Of course it wont compare to witcher 2, because that had been planned from the start to include an enhanced edition alongside its console release.

[SirCroft]

As much as I can't get myself to like The Witcher series, I have the utmost respect for CD Projekt, they treat their loyal fans like BioWare used to.

[Nunatac]

Here is something funny: CD Projekt was a distributor and made dub localization for Mass Effect 1 in Poland. Also CD Project buy Aurora engine from Bioware, upgrade and made Witcher 1 on it. Since EA put their hands on Bioware, well - Master has fallen into darkness and student takes his place

[Apathy1989]

I love CDProjekt, but they cannot say that RPG fans don't like similar endings after Witcher 1 and 2.

Witcher 1 - All roads lead to the same place. Your choices influence who lives and dies, and plot points change but the final destination is always the same.

Witcher 2 - Again all roads lead to the same place. Your choices have a bit more meaning - you raise kingdoms to glory, others fall. Kings die or live. However it always ends with a dragon destroying the city, fighting it, then meeting the assassin of kings. The plot points change far far more than Witcher 1, but its not a completely different ending.



Now I'm not knocking this. Stories in games need to lead to the same place. The narrative dictates that we find the assassin of kings rather than run off to a brothel and screw until we die. His statement about the ending rings a bit hollow though. Maybe he hasn't played ME3?

[Dendio1]

SirCroft wrote...

As much as I can't get myself to like The Witcher series, I have the utmost respect for CD Projekt, they treat their loyal fans like BioWare used to.

The problem is so many people are starting at witcher 1 thinking the games are like mass effect.

Witcher 1 is not nearly as good as witcher 2. Its a good game for its time, but it never compared to the great rpgs out there.

I encourage newbies to just start with witcher 2. The story has no connection that they dont explain away in the first 5 minutes.

Witcher 2 is what elevated the franchise to the top tier.

[Sajuro]

Like other people have said, come to me when CD Projekt has made a best selling trilogy, a popular franchise, and the best martial arts rpg of all time all of which are original IPs, and then we can talk.

[Ariella]

ZackG312 wrote...

Ariella wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Wait, the CEO of CD Projekt Red saying his company is better? STOP THE PRESSES!
Also, why is inventory management an essential part of rpgs? I've managed my inventory more in RE4 than any rpg I've ever played.

Well, I managed it far more in Mass Effect (with irony).

Does swearing because you have to break down the geth weapon you finally managed to get as a drop because you reached the abitrary limit of weapons and armor you can have count? In my opinion, ME2+3 does much better in terms of inventory than the first game did.

A-freakin'-men. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. When CDPR comes out with its own original IP rather than mining someone else's world for games, then we'll see how sucessful they are, until then, they're a two title company who hasn't really done much of anything on the international gaming stage.

The Witcher 2 got a 9.5 and looks freaking incredible on PC, thats has to count for something.

and rumors on websites say that they are making a new SCI-FI IP.  Cant wait to see it.

I'll point out that DA2 and ME3 both were getting in the nines (DA2 got a 9.7 from Time magazine, the article should still be archived somewhere as it was on the 'net), and so what that it looked incredible on PC. It also looked like a Japanese B monster movie whenever anyone talked since the lip synch was terrible, and combat was unbalanced.

ME3 looks great in general, your choices during the acts do have effects on what happens, who joins you etc. While some of the choices looked like they may be bugged, the ambient conversation choices (done either at the Spectre office) or depending on who you support, have an effect, even if it's only story, and those stories tie into each other. The Asari commando's story ties into a major character later in the game for example.

EDI's journey, Legion, Tali's response to the homeworld she's never seen, Wrex (if you didn't kill him on Virmire which I recommend) and the genophage cure. Eve's story, and Mordin coming full circle. These kinds of things made the game great. Great things are built on small things, and while I do believe that the ending could use more clarification, the story, in my mind, stands with Sci Fi epics like Babylon 5, for telling stories big and small of war.

[ZackG312]

SirCroft wrote...

As much as I can't get myself to like The Witcher series, I have the utmost respect for CD Projekt, they treat their loyal fans like BioWare used to.

to be honest at first I didnt like The Witcher 1, I thought is was just a Bioware rip-off, but I bought it on Steam and played it, I thought the prologue was boring and slow. but in Chapter 1 I was sucked into the game, the atmosphere of the game and outskirts of the city was perfect, dark and ugly. 

I say just try it out great games and long too, It took me 40 hours my first playthrough and 60 hours for my second one.

[Malanek]

Sajuro wrote...

Like other people have said, come to me when CD Projekt has made a best selling trilogy, a popular franchise, and the best martial arts rpg of all time all of which are original IPs, and then we can talk.

I get your point, a little unfair though. They are a young company with less resources but have done well so far. They are where Bioware were 10 years ago.

[Robhuzz]

Apathy1989 wrote...

I love CDProjekt, but they cannot say that RPG fans don't like similar endings after Witcher 1 and 2.

Witcher 1 - All roads lead to the same place. Your choices influence who lives and dies, and plot points change but the final destination is always the same.

Witcher 2 - Again all roads lead to the same place. Your choices have a bit more meaning - you raise kingdoms to glory, others fall. Kings die or live. However it always ends with a dragon destroying the city, fighting it, then meeting the assassin of kings. The plot points change far far more than Witcher 1, but its not a completely different ending.



Now I'm not knocking this. Stories in games need to lead to the same place. The narrative dictates that we find the assassin of kings rather than run off to a brothel and screw until we die. His statement about the ending rings a bit hollow though. Maybe he hasn't played ME3?

The endings to The Witcher series are fine for that game. Why? Because CDProjekt is telling the story of Geralt of Rivia. It's a story being told by them to the player. The player can affect the story quite a bit, but it's still not ours. BioWare has made Shepard a character than one can relate to. He doesn't have a definitive personality of his own because that's up to the player. BioWare intended (or at least tried to) make this 'our' story.

I get your point, a little unfair though. They are a young company with less resources but have done well so far. They are where Bioware were 10 years ago. 

Let's hope they don't end in the same trash filled gutter that has 'EA' stamped all over it.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 10 mai 2012 - 08:52 .

[ZackG312]

Nunatac wrote...

Here is something funny: CD Projekt was a distributor and made dub localization for Mass Effect 1 in Poland. Also CD Project buy Aurora engine from Bioware, upgrade and made Witcher 1 on it. Since EA put their hands on Bioware, well - Master has fallen into darkness and student takes his place

yeah CD Projekt was Bioware's kid brother(no one cared about), now look at them all grown up.

[ticklefist]

Did this guy actually say anything negative about Bioware or Mass Effect 3 or are typical fanboys being typical fanboys?

[ZackG312]

PDesign wrote...

Nunatac wrote...

Here is something funny: CD Projekt was a distributor and made dub localization for Mass Effect 1 in Poland. Also CD Project buy Aurora engine from Bioware, upgrade and made Witcher 1 on it. Since EA put their hands on Bioware, well - Master has fallen into darkness and student takes his place

Not really, CD Projekt still sucks and stealing EaWare's ideas

please explain

[UnstableMongoose]

liggy002 wrote...

So, another article by Forbes here:  http://www.forbes.co...jekt-red-ceo/3/


Check out this excerpt from the article.  I think the CEO pretty much sums up why the majority of gamers were upset with the Mass Effect 3 ending.  Bioware, this is something that should have happened with the ending.  Please take this into consideration and know that I believe you will make us proud with the Extended Cut.

TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STORYLINES IN THE SECOND CHAPTER.  Yes, this kind of consequence is possible if you give it your all.


Here is the excerpt:


Interviewer:  


It’s a solid pitch. And, speaking of real consequences, my colleagues at Forbes have been dedicatedly following fan protests at the apparent removal of a number of classic RPG elements, such as inventory management and crafting, from more recent games. CD Projekt Red is often seen as the standard-bearer of a more purist PC RPG experience – what did you think about the very vocal fan reaction to the ending of Mass Effect 3?



CEO:


RPGs are games you invest a lot of your time into. They become part of your life for quite a while. During this time you highly identify yourself with the character you play, so if suddenly, after 100+ of hours and few instalments of the series you find out that whatever you did throughout this whole time, whatever choices you made, the end is the same, well, I think that disappointment is understandable. It clearly shows that gamers expect, that their choices in the RPGs they play are really meaningful – and that’s what both the Witcher and the Witcher 2 are about.
We actually went so far in Witcher 2 that, depending on the player’s choice in Chapter One there are two totally different versions of Chapter Two, two different locations and two different storylines. To see both, you have to play the game twice. On top of that the game has 16 different endings depending on gamers choices throughout the whole game. There are decisions and there the consequences and you see it from the beginning to the end of both Witchers.

Great article!  It's good to know that this CEO and myself see eye to eye.

That's a pretty self-serving opinion to have on the matter. It's amazing that people aren't more suspicious of this.

[ZackG312]

ticklefist wrote...

Did this guy actually say anything negative about Bioware or Mass Effect 3 or are typical fanboys being typical fanboys?

 "so if suddenly, after 100+ of hours and few instalments of the series you find out that whatever you did throughout this whole time, whatever choices you made, the end is the same, well, I think that disappointment is understandable."

more of a jab at Mass effect 3 ending.

[SirCroft]

Dendio1 wrote...

SirCroft wrote...

As much as I can't get myself to like The Witcher series, I have the utmost respect for CD Projekt, they treat their loyal fans like BioWare used to.

The problem is so many people are starting at witcher 1 thinking the games are like mass effect.

Witcher 1 is not nearly as good as witcher 2. Its a good game for its time, but it never compared to the great rpgs out there.

I encourage newbies to just start with witcher 2. The story has no connection that they dont explain away in the first 5 minutes.

Witcher 2 is what elevated the franchise to the top tier.

I have tried both, actually!
I can't quite say what it is that makes me dislike the series, but it's one of those series that I can't appreciate, but I respect and know it is top quality, like Metal Gear Solid, for instance.

[Mcfly616]

Im playing Witcher 2 right now....I had it sitting in the plastic for two weeks while I finished a complete playthrough of the Mass Effect trilogy for the millionth time(3rd time for ME3)...

After about 10 hours through the game, I know I haven't even scratched the surface of what Witcher 2 has to offer.

It seems that CDP Red took what the Bioware of old started, and theyre running with it.....where as Bioware is trying to get away what made them who they are today....or they just forgot who they were....either way whatever

The combat is pretty smooth. Whoever thinks its not good, then they just must not be accustomed to too many games that make the player earn every step of the way, instead of having the game push you along.....the combat is good, it just takes some practice and getting used to(its not a shooter) and you can't just hack n slash....you have to parry, dodge and time your strikes....

The Witcher 2 is definitely catered to core gamers.....I've died more times in the first 5 hours, than all 3 of my ME3 playthroughs.....

I don't think its fair to compare the two games.....

But it is fair to compare the companies..

I feel like I've found a new franchise to be a fan of.....but, I can't help having Mass Effect on my mind no matter what game I'm playing....I love it.....and it feels like a lost love.....questions of what could've been.....and reluctant hope for the EC....

But for now, back to the Witcher 2....where my decisions seem to matter, like they used to in Mass Effect.....

Modifié par Mcfly616, 10 mai 2012 - 09:00 .

[Sajuro]

Malanek999 wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Like other people have said, come to me when CD Projekt has made a best selling trilogy, a popular franchise, and the best martial arts rpg of all time all of which are original IPs, and then we can talk.

I get your point, a little unfair though. They are a young company with less resources but have done well so far. They are where Bioware were 10 years ago.

When people are treating CD Projekt like the golden child for fixing a ballsed up ending from someone else's universe (the author could probably have cut them off from the rights if they ballsed up the story too much), I may be a little unfair but we have to keep in mind even Bioware games set in established universes have their original stories (except Sonic)

[ticklefist]

ZackG312 wrote...

ticklefist wrote...

Did this guy actually say anything negative about Bioware or Mass Effect 3 or are typical fanboys being typical fanboys?

 "so if suddenly, after 100+ of hours and few instalments of the series you find out that whatever you did throughout this whole time, whatever choices you made, the end is the same, well, I think that disappointment is understandable."

more of a jab at Mass effect 3 ending.

Well he's right. I think the forums being lit up the way they have for 2 months makes that pretty clear. It's the vocal minority that pretends to like this ending that find anything to disagree with there.

[Diegofsv]

Its not the number of ends the problem....the witcher 2 have endings close enought to each other. The diference is that witcher 2 ending makes sense, while ME3 ending dont.

[Mr.House]

There's somethings I don't like about CDP butt he one thing I do like is their communication and how they treat the fans and how your choices matter. Also TW and TW2 EE where just masterpieces. They made already two good games better and I'm very excited for TW3.

[Joe Del Toro]

I'm in the middle of a Witcher 2 game now. Never have I played a game filled with just as much aspects that I adore as I do despise. Good potential but I honestly don't see it as too much to get worked up about.

[Malanek]

Sajuro wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Like other people have said, come to me when CD Projekt has made a best selling trilogy, a popular franchise, and the best martial arts rpg of all time all of which are original IPs, and then we can talk.

I get your point, a little unfair though. They are a young company with less resources but have done well so far. They are where Bioware were 10 years ago.

When people are treating CD Projekt like the golden child for fixing a ballsed up ending from someone else's universe (the author could probably have cut them off from the rights if they ballsed up the story too much), I may be a little unfair but we have to keep in mind even Bioware games set in established universes have their original stories (except Sonic)

Are you talking about TW2? Seriously what was ballsed up about the ending? I thought it was great. My big problem with their games is they aren't polished. The balancing is pretty bad and just small things like how ity takes 10 seconds to walk through a door are where the game still has work to do.

ME3 on the other hand was extremely good for 99% of the game. The problems were on a much smaller scale than TW2. Then we get to the ending and it is much worse (assuming IT is incorrect) than just having one ending. It was just emotionally flat and nonsensical. I still can't believe that is what they came up with.