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[Poll] Extended Cut: Yet another, ridiculously detailed survey


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Whoa! I hope Bioware is paying attention and taking notes. If not, then they are only hurting themselves.

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finished the survey. thinking about now im really suprised they had no scenes with squadmates you didnt take. i mean come on, they did it in mass effect 2 so y not 3? i mean come on even kingdom hearts 2 did it when one by one final fantasy characters would jump in and help for awhile during the huge heartless battle....and that was back in the ps2 era >_>

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CARL_DF90 wrote...

Whoa! I hope Bioware is paying attention and taking notes. If not, then they are only hurting themselves.


At least 1 person from Bioware has read it. If they have already started to record VO's then they must have the main lines of the EC writted already, but it's not too late to add in some tweaks.

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Just submitted mine, excellent survey, and I'm intrigued at how the graphs apparently updates itself.

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bumped again.

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Utopianus wrote...

Just submitted mine, excellent survey, and I'm intrigued at how the graphs apparently updates itself.


That's google docs working its magic. Nothing to do on my side: all the graphs update every time a reply comes in!

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New update since a lot of replies from outside BSN have come in. Those are mostly from the LiveJournal ME3 community, and from "Retake ME3". Is the latter a website, or the "Retake" Facebook group?


Latest top options for Part 2:
#1 - Show consequences of blowing up Mass Relays (92%, majority of "detailed explanation")
#2 - Show what happens to the squad while we are on the Cidatel (88%)
#3 - Show war assets in action (83%)
#4 - Tied at 80%: "Explain our choices more" and "Argue with the Catalyst"
#6 - Where does the squad go from now? (78%)

Indoc Special:
60% of people think implementing Indoc Theory would be a good move. Only 19% however, want it to be made canon at all costs. A larger percentage would be satisfied if Bioware just fixed the problems with the ending.

Top options for part 3
#1 - No Fleeing Normandy: 75% think that scene can't be properly explained and it must be cut or strongly altered.
#2 - Cut the StarKid (71%, with a majority wanting to replace him with Harby)
#3 - Do this the hard way: 68% want an option to battle the Reapers conventionally. Only 19% are prepared to accept hard losses in doing so, such as losing the Normandy.

By the way I've just added "More Thane Content" to part 3 due to overwhelming demand. It's a bit late for that but I don't think this will skew the survey too much. The way it looks he's poised to outstrip Jack and Miranda in popular support.

Modifié par Zolt51, 14 mai 2012 - 09:27 .


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By the way, one graph that's somewhat encouraging. If Bioware listens to this survey, here's what they stand to gain:

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bumped again.

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Bumpitty, bumpitty bump. Good surge in replies today. I hope this keeps going!

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Done. Looking at the results I'm happy to see how many people want to cut out the starbrat completely.

Modifié par WaffleVoyager, 14 mai 2012 - 02:15 .


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just kill the starbrat with a thanix missile already!

#213
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Done!

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bump bump

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Thane has barely been in the poll a few hours, but already Jake and Miranda are eating his dust.
I'm curious, what exactly would Thane fans like to see?

Personally I wasn't a huge fan of Thane in ME2, but I thought he was a real rock star in ME3, even in the screen time he got. Quality over quantity, I'd say. Even after he ought to have been dead from his illness, he managed to kick epic ass, and give some very interesting conversations along the way.

And then there was "His last wish was for you..". Anyone who doesn't utterly lose their sh!t at that point is less than human inside, in my opinion.

For those who romanced him, I hear it was barely acknowledged in the game. That true?

Modifié par Zolt51, 14 mai 2012 - 04:01 .


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Sadly, any polls this late in the game will likely be unable to affect the EC.

That said, it can guide future DLC content beyond the EC.

That said again without knowing what they've done with EC, we're in unknown territory on what our options will be after EC.

That said again again, we have little else to do until EC comes out.

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Overall a good survey, although its options don't feel 100 % unbiased :D I also felt a few options were lacking, e.g. "I do not believe in Indoctrination Theory, but I would like to see it implemented". But that's just nit-picking, on the whole you did a good job :)

ReggarBlane wrote...
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That said again again, we have little else to do until EC comes out.


That made me smile, even though you probably didn't intend it to have that effect :P but it's true. I've taken the survey now and it all helps to pass the time. I'm also listening to the soundtrack I got from the Collector's Edition (after having pushed the whole ordeal into the back of my mind for a good while, I'm suddenly feeling the months-old sting again).

I also thought the same thing as you point out in the first line of your post. Still, there's no loss from taking surveys like this ^_^ and if it feels oddly soothing, then... well, yeah.

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Ajensis wrote...

Overall a good survey, although its options don't feel 100 % unbiased :D I also felt a few options were lacking, e.g. "I do not believe in Indoctrination Theory, but I would like to see it implemented". But that's just nit-picking, on the whole you did a good job :)

Thx. I don't think I could have come up with that option on my own.

I freely admit to being very biased when it comes to Bioware games, but I'm trying to be as fair as possible on this survey. Anything else you feel was biased?

Even though they're doing the voiceover work for the EC now, doesn't mean they can't still tweak bits of it. But it's true that just after PAX would have been the best time for this.

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Zolt51--
Brilliant idea with the survey. A fantastic way to bring empirical data into the discussion. My hat is off to you.

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Zolt51 wrote...
I freely admit to being very biased when it comes to Bioware games, but I'm trying to be as fair as possible on this survey. Anything else you feel was biased?

Even though they're doing the voiceover work for the EC now, doesn't mean they can't still tweak bits of it. But it's true that just after PAX would have been the best time for this.



And it's definitely not biased to any harmful degree, so don't take my comment too seriously :) it's just generally in the phrasing of the questions and the possible answers. But hey, at least it's biased towards my own personal feelings, so it could've been worse :whistle: :P

And it's true, there's no reason to not put in the last bits of effort to communicate what the fanbase wants. And that's why I applaud the time you've spent on creating this survey :) keep up the good work!

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Took it, doubt Bioware will look at it.

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incinerator950 wrote...

Took it, doubt Bioware will look at it.

Since they have already started recording voiceovers, that means the the EC has already been written, so there's not really anything they can do with this information.

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Atakuma wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Took it, doubt Bioware will look at it.

Since they have already started recording voiceovers, that means the the EC has already been written, so there's not really anything they can do with this information.

Not necessarily, there's still a lot of things they can tweak, especially when it comes to showing of war assets, ending cinematics etc... I would be surprised if the EC is out before mid July.

Even with the catalyst scene: Replace him with a holo of harbinger, lower his voice by several octaves, and voila! Total win. No additional VO required. (at least if I got with a very litteral interpretation of this poll ;)

Modifié par Zolt51, 14 mai 2012 - 06:32 .


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Zolt51 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Took it, doubt Bioware will look at it.

Since they have already started recording voiceovers, that means the the EC has already been written, so there's not really anything they can do with this information.

Not necessarily, there's still a lot of things they can tweak, especially when it comes to showing of war assets, ending cinematics etc... I would be surprised if the EC is out before mid July.

Even with the catalyst scene: Replace him with a holo of harbinger, lower his voice by several octaves, and voila! Total win. (at least if I got with a very litteral interpretation of this poll ;)


No, Atakuma is right again.  It's more unlikely they will add any gameplay changes, even codex entries and GAW fixes. 

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incinerator950 wrote...

No, Atakuma is right again.  It's more unlikely they will add any gameplay changes, even codex entries and GAW fixes. 


Kidding about harby (although a lot of people wish I wasn't). Just to say, there's a lot they can do without voiceovers, just tweaking existing content. Hell, look at what Gamer Poop can do!

Modifié par Zolt51, 14 mai 2012 - 06:37 .