Modifié par Grimwick, 10 mai 2012 - 09:54 .
Malanek999 wrote...
Retreat, then destroy the relay, sacrifice the sol system to destroy the reapers.
Tapkomet wrote...
Possible ways:
1. FTL bombs - Geth and Quarian engineers must have something to bypass that stupid limitation.
Modifié par A0170, 10 mai 2012 - 09:58 .
Erield wrote...
A0170 wrote...
Interesting tactics but isn't their a Reaper icon above the Salarian home system right before you start Priority: Earth? To me that suggests a sizable Reaper presence on Sur'Kesh.
Rannoch is still free, and should be defended like you said. Kahje may be free as well, if you help out Bau and Kasumi. The game however doesn't reveal its ultimate fate so we can't be certain. If it is free, we could still use it as a military base until the Reapers eventually come.
Meanwhile your point about creating a giant Migrant Fleet is certainly interesting. The logistical issues of having to feed and resupply such a large force while keeping it hidden from the Reapers would be a huge problem. Although I guess the galaxy is large enough for the fleet to hide for a while.
There's a difference between "sizable" and "OH **** RUN!!!!" Maybe I should have read (re-read?) your link to the actual numbers of Reaper capital ships. If there's thousands of Sovereign-class ships flying around, I really don't see any way to pull off a true victory--just a run 'n hide. Hiding is possible; it was done on Ilos, it was done with the Crucible. It may still be necessary to sacrifice a significant portion of the fleet in order to trick the Reapers into thinking we'd already given it our all.
Unholyknight800 wrote...
"Crash the entire fleet into the Sun men!"
At the very least, if a band of turian rebels can bypass the failsafes, then I'm quite confident that a certain stealth frigate controlled by a certain Reaper-based AI can become an FTL missile, if the need arises.A0170 wrote...
Tapkomet wrote...
Possible ways:
1. FTL bombs - Geth and Quarian engineers must have something to bypass that stupid limitation.
FTL bombs are more feasible than we think. There's the Taetrus story for one. And here's a later Taetrus related update from the Cerberes Daily News Network.
“A disturbing find on Taetrus this week reminded colonialist troops of the consequences of failure. Army units seized a house in the Diluvian city of Madra; in a work shed, they discovered two improvised FTL plotters in the late stages of weaponization. The shed belonged to Ulrixen Ravidus, a suspected Facinus supporter. Described as having "few skills in the astrophysics department", authorities believe Ravidus may have harbored Vamire Squaron, the pilot who allegedly launched the hypervelocity craft that caused the Vallum Blast. Further evidence in Ravidus' residence suggests that Facinus tried to use a ship as a weapon on military targets in the early stages of the Diluvian invasion, but the vessel was shot down by colonialist forces as they began to establish air and space supremacy.”
So we can gather that a group of Turian rebels were well on their way towards creating more weapons that use rudimentary "FTL plotters". Imagine what the military can do if they embrace this tactic.
Grimwick wrote...
Whether or not it is possible to win conventionally, I think that if an ending did occur, in which the crucible did not work (or was not thought to work and Shepard was presumed dead but survived) it would be incredibly powerful.
I can just imagine a scene were an ensign looks up at a troubled Hackett and says those words in the title of the the thread - now that would have been the dramatic ending we were promised, even if it turned out that the crucible worked after all.
In response to the conventional warfare argument, I'd like to simply point out that Shepard killed a smaller class reaper on foot with just a small amount of air support. On foot.
Modifié par A0170, 10 mai 2012 - 10:09 .
Sgt Stryker wrote...
At the very least, if a band of turian rebels can bypass the failsafes, then I'm quite confident that a certain stealth frigate controlled by a certain Reaper-based AI can become an FTL missile, if the need arises.A0170 wrote...
Tapkomet wrote...
Possible ways:
1. FTL bombs - Geth and Quarian engineers must have something to bypass that stupid limitation.
FTL bombs are more feasible than we think. There's the Taetrus story for one. And here's a later Taetrus related update from the Cerberes Daily News Network.
“A disturbing find on Taetrus this week reminded colonialist troops of the consequences of failure. Army units seized a house in the Diluvian city of Madra; in a work shed, they discovered two improvised FTL plotters in the late stages of weaponization. The shed belonged to Ulrixen Ravidus, a suspected Facinus supporter. Described as having "few skills in the astrophysics department", authorities believe Ravidus may have harbored Vamire Squaron, the pilot who allegedly launched the hypervelocity craft that caused the Vallum Blast. Further evidence in Ravidus' residence suggests that Facinus tried to use a ship as a weapon on military targets in the early stages of the Diluvian invasion, but the vessel was shot down by colonialist forces as they began to establish air and space supremacy.”
So we can gather that a group of Turian rebels were well on their way towards creating more weapons that use rudimentary "FTL plotters". Imagine what the military can do if they embrace this tactic.
A0170 wrote...
And I did agree that hiding is possible, Ilos certainly does prove your point. That's why I like your suggestion of hiding, perhaps waiting out this cycle like the Protheans (led by Javik) try to do on Eden Prime. Except this time we'll be mobile instead of concentrated on one planet.
Erield wrote...
A0170 wrote...
And I did agree that hiding is possible, Ilos certainly does prove your point. That's why I like your suggestion of hiding, perhaps waiting out this cycle like the Protheans (led by Javik) try to do on Eden Prime. Except this time we'll be mobile instead of concentrated on one planet.
I'm surprised at how much I'm starting to like the idea of running and hiding like little cowards.
MisterJB wrote...
The protheans did consider it, Javik tells you they attempted to hide one million protheans to rebuild civilization once the Reapers had left.
Fortunately for us, the Reapers discovered their plans and killed everyone but Javik. I don't relish the tought of humanity as a subservient race under the Prothean Empire.
Modifié par A0170, 10 mai 2012 - 10:31 .
MisterJB wrote...
The protheans did consider it, Javik tells you they attempted to hide one million protheans to rebuild civilization once the Reapers had left.
Fortunately for us, the Reapers discovered their plans and killed everyone but Javik. I don't relish the tought of humanity as a subservient race under the Prothean Empire.
ThomaswBloom wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
The protheans did consider it, Javik tells you they attempted to hide one million protheans to rebuild civilization once the Reapers had left.
Fortunately for us, the Reapers discovered their plans and killed everyone but Javik. I don't relish the tought of humanity as a subservient race under the Prothean Empire.
The Rachni were able too. 'course they only needed to hide a couple eggs.
Prothean's tried to wipe 'em out, Reapers tried to wipe 'em out, Krogran tried to wipe 'em out. Damn space cockroaches.
Modifié par A0170, 10 mai 2012 - 10:44 .
webhead921 wrote...
"Admiral the Crucible is useless. What are your orders?" Drunk Leslie Knope says, "Everybody pants now. Pants, pants, pants pants." Then Ron Swanson kills all the reapers single handedly.
II JazB x wrote...
Except the krogan did wipe them out pretty much. Only came back because of those pesky scientists on Noveria -.-
I would either go down fighting or order a full retreat to Rannoch. Organize something similar to what the Protheans tried to do with Javik, but have a mix of all the races so none die out. Then I would use a feint plan. 'Leak' a plan that the fleets will try to re-take Tuchanka, and split the fleet to attack Earth and destroy The Citadel via a crapload of nukes, warp bombs and FTL bombs. At least deny the Reapers that infernal station.
Modifié par A0170, 10 mai 2012 - 10:55 .
OdanUrr wrote...
A dud? All of ME3 to build something that doesn't work?
A0170 wrote...
webhead921 wrote...
"Admiral the Crucible is useless. What are your orders?" Drunk Leslie Knope says, "Everybody pants now. Pants, pants, pants pants." Then Ron Swanson kills all the reapers single handedly.
Yes, Ron "freaking" Swanson would be the x factor. He'd probably launch a meat tornado at them.
webhead921 wrote...
A0170 wrote...
webhead921 wrote...
"Admiral the Crucible is useless. What are your orders?" Drunk Leslie Knope says, "Everybody pants now. Pants, pants, pants pants." Then Ron Swanson kills all the reapers single handedly.
Yes, Ron "freaking" Swanson would be the x factor. He'd probably launch a meat tornado at them.
I think it's time for Bioware to hire Mouse Rat to write a song for the end credits.
Malanek999 wrote...
Retreat, then destroy the relay, sacrifice the sol system to destroy the reapers.
Small amount of air support.Grimwick wrote...
Whether or not it is possible to win conventionally, I think that if an ending did occur, in which the crucible did not work (or was not thought to work and Shepard was presumed dead but survived) it would be incredibly powerful.
I can just imagine a scene were an ensign looks up at a troubled Hackett and says those words in the title of the the thread - now that would have been the dramatic ending we were promised, even if it turned out that the crucible worked after all.
In response to the conventional warfare argument, I'd like to simply point out that Shepard killed a smaller class reaper on foot with just a small amount of air support. On foot.
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