gmboy902 wrote...
Sabotaging Genophage = Good. Because when every species is trapped on Earth, it'd be bad of the Krogan suddenly started repopulating.
gmboy902 wrote...
Sabotaging Genophage = Good. Because when every species is trapped on Earth, it'd be bad of the Krogan suddenly started repopulating.
What about the humans? We have done nothing to them and we are also dying by the millions on Earth.KotorEffect3 wrote...
We are asking the Krogan throw themselves at the reapers to save the same species that deployed the genophage against them. They have every right to demand a cure.
Silhouett3 wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Silhouett3 wrote...
Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but you don't need to cure the Genophage to receive the aid of the mindless Krogan as cannon fodder.
Modifié par Deltateam Elcor, 11 mai 2012 - 11:38 .
o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Silhouett3 wrote...
Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but you don't need to cure the Genophage to receive the aid of the mindless Krogan as cannon fodder.
Wrex and Eve are both mindless now? Grunt is mindless? Okeer, Charr, Fortack, and the Tomkah Mechanic are all mindless now?
Catamantaloedis wrote...
All of them.
They've learned to act in a near rational manner from their superior races, true. But their imitation of reason can only go so far. Ultimately, not far enough.
If I recall correctly, Grunt immediately attacked Shepard as soon as he can out of the tank, showing what a mindless wretch he is, at least until Shepard told him that he had enemies to kill. Of course, upon hearing that he could do the only thing which Krogan know how to do, kill, he relented and made himself Shepard's slave, as is right.o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
All of them.
They've learned to act in a near rational manner from their superior races, true. But their imitation of reason can only go so far. Ultimately, not far enough.
So Grunt, who is less than a solar year old and thus has really only interacted with Shepard and the Normandy's crew, or Fortack, who has never left Tuchanka (Same goes for the Mechanic and Eve, up until her passage from the planet) all "learned to act in a near rational manner from superior races"?
The only krogan that we interact with to form a solid opinion on aside from Eve and Grunt is Wrex, and even then, he is the only one out of the 3 who has had extensive work done with aliens (Because of his former business as a merc and bounty hunter).
Never mind that Wrex is also single handedly doing in weeks/months what most human political leaders couldn't do in decades/centuries.
Catamantaloedis wrote...
If I recall correctly, Grunt immediately attacked Shepard as soon as he can out of the tank, showing what a mindless wretch he is, at least until Shepard told him that he had enemies to kill. Of course, upon hearing that he could do the only thing which Krogan know how to do, kill, he relented and made himself Shepard's slave, as is right.o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
All of them.
They've learned to act in a near rational manner from their superior races, true. But their imitation of reason can only go so far. Ultimately, not far enough.
So Grunt, who is less than a solar year old and thus has really only interacted with Shepard and the Normandy's crew, or Fortack, who has never left Tuchanka (Same goes for the Mechanic and Eve, up until her passage from the planet) all "learned to act in a near rational manner from superior races"?
The only krogan that we interact with to form a solid opinion on aside from Eve and Grunt is Wrex, and even then, he is the only one out of the 3 who has had extensive work done with aliens (Because of his former business as a merc and bounty hunter).
Never mind that Wrex is also single handedly doing in weeks/months what most human political leaders couldn't do in decades/centuries.
Wrex is just as savage as any other Krogan, and just as loyal, turning his gun upon you, and his dim mind unable to see the infallible logic of the genophage. Killing him is obvious.
Of course I would be "pissed off". But I'm a rational human being so I have that right. The Krogan, however, are a mindless race which know nothing except breeding and killing.o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
If I recall correctly, Grunt immediately attacked Shepard as soon as he can out of the tank, showing what a mindless wretch he is, at least until Shepard told him that he had enemies to kill. Of course, upon hearing that he could do the only thing which Krogan know how to do, kill, he relented and made himself Shepard's slave, as is right.o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
All of them.
They've learned to act in a near rational manner from their superior races, true. But their imitation of reason can only go so far. Ultimately, not far enough.
So Grunt, who is less than a solar year old and thus has really only interacted with Shepard and the Normandy's crew, or Fortack, who has never left Tuchanka (Same goes for the Mechanic and Eve, up until her passage from the planet) all "learned to act in a near rational manner from superior races"?
The only krogan that we interact with to form a solid opinion on aside from Eve and Grunt is Wrex, and even then, he is the only one out of the 3 who has had extensive work done with aliens (Because of his former business as a merc and bounty hunter).
Never mind that Wrex is also single handedly doing in weeks/months what most human political leaders couldn't do in decades/centuries.
Wrex is just as savage as any other Krogan, and just as loyal, turning his gun upon you, and his dim mind unable to see the infallible logic of the genophage. Killing him is obvious.
Grunt didn't even attack Shepard, he just pinned him on the wall. He never injured him or hurt Shepard in any way. Even then, he was specifically designed as a super soldier. Being a bit more bloodthirsty than normal kind of helps in that regard.
Wrex is "savage" (A word that is 99.9% of the time subjective and/or misused, like it is in your post), despite diplomatically leading an entire warlike species (Hint: that isn't an easy thing to do) and brokering peace between his race and the turians (Hint: also hard to do)
So you're saying that if someone promised to cure your mother/father of a fatal illness, but later gave you the finger and laughed, you wouldn't be kind of pissed off? Please, don't form close associations with people, and please refrain from continuing your bloodline.
ReXspec wrote...
I can't believe the OP is actually fully advocating (and arguing about) genocide. Is anyone else believing this?
I DARE YOU to advocate Hitler's "Final Solution to the Jewish Question" and call a whole race a "plague" on society, because that is exactly what you are doing with the Krogan.
Also, inb4 OP or other users mention Prime Directive. Nature should decide on whether the Krogan live or die... not galactic politics.
Modifié par Catamantaloedis, 12 mai 2012 - 12:15 .
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Of course I would be "pissed off". But I'm a rational human being so I have that right. The Krogan, however, are a mindless race which know nothing except breeding and killing.o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
If I recall correctly, Grunt immediately attacked Shepard as soon as he can out of the tank, showing what a mindless wretch he is, at least until Shepard told him that he had enemies to kill. Of course, upon hearing that he could do the only thing which Krogan know how to do, kill, he relented and made himself Shepard's slave, as is right.o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
All of them.
They've learned to act in a near rational manner from their superior races, true. But their imitation of reason can only go so far. Ultimately, not far enough.
So Grunt, who is less than a solar year old and thus has really only interacted with Shepard and the Normandy's crew, or Fortack, who has never left Tuchanka (Same goes for the Mechanic and Eve, up until her passage from the planet) all "learned to act in a near rational manner from superior races"?
The only krogan that we interact with to form a solid opinion on aside from Eve and Grunt is Wrex, and even then, he is the only one out of the 3 who has had extensive work done with aliens (Because of his former business as a merc and bounty hunter).
Never mind that Wrex is also single handedly doing in weeks/months what most human political leaders couldn't do in decades/centuries.
Wrex is just as savage as any other Krogan, and just as loyal, turning his gun upon you, and his dim mind unable to see the infallible logic of the genophage. Killing him is obvious.
Grunt didn't even attack Shepard, he just pinned him on the wall. He never injured him or hurt Shepard in any way. Even then, he was specifically designed as a super soldier. Being a bit more bloodthirsty than normal kind of helps in that regard.
Wrex is "savage" (A word that is 99.9% of the time subjective and/or misused, like it is in your post), despite diplomatically leading an entire warlike species (Hint: that isn't an easy thing to do) and brokering peace between his race and the turians (Hint: also hard to do)
So you're saying that if someone promised to cure your mother/father of a fatal illness, but later gave you the finger and laughed, you wouldn't be kind of pissed off? Please, don't form close associations with people, and please refrain from continuing your bloodline.
Of course Wrex can use some sort of imitation of diplomacy. He simply wants to gain the ability to breed again, and guess what he will do to gain it: kill.
It's all they know. The Krogan are like rabbits armed with nuclear weapons.
So you admit that the Krogan are genetically designed to be murderous beasts, yet continue to defend them?o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Of course I would be "pissed off". But I'm a rational human being so I have that right. The Krogan, however, are a mindless race which know nothing except breeding and killing.o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
If I recall correctly, Grunt immediately attacked Shepard as soon as he can out of the tank, showing what a mindless wretch he is, at least until Shepard told him that he had enemies to kill. Of course, upon hearing that he could do the only thing which Krogan know how to do, kill, he relented and made himself Shepard's slave, as is right.o Ventus wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
All of them.
They've learned to act in a near rational manner from their superior races, true. But their imitation of reason can only go so far. Ultimately, not far enough.
So Grunt, who is less than a solar year old and thus has really only interacted with Shepard and the Normandy's crew, or Fortack, who has never left Tuchanka (Same goes for the Mechanic and Eve, up until her passage from the planet) all "learned to act in a near rational manner from superior races"?
The only krogan that we interact with to form a solid opinion on aside from Eve and Grunt is Wrex, and even then, he is the only one out of the 3 who has had extensive work done with aliens (Because of his former business as a merc and bounty hunter).
Never mind that Wrex is also single handedly doing in weeks/months what most human political leaders couldn't do in decades/centuries.
Wrex is just as savage as any other Krogan, and just as loyal, turning his gun upon you, and his dim mind unable to see the infallible logic of the genophage. Killing him is obvious.
Grunt didn't even attack Shepard, he just pinned him on the wall. He never injured him or hurt Shepard in any way. Even then, he was specifically designed as a super soldier. Being a bit more bloodthirsty than normal kind of helps in that regard.
Wrex is "savage" (A word that is 99.9% of the time subjective and/or misused, like it is in your post), despite diplomatically leading an entire warlike species (Hint: that isn't an easy thing to do) and brokering peace between his race and the turians (Hint: also hard to do)
So you're saying that if someone promised to cure your mother/father of a fatal illness, but later gave you the finger and laughed, you wouldn't be kind of pissed off? Please, don't form close associations with people, and please refrain from continuing your bloodline.
Of course Wrex can use some sort of imitation of diplomacy. He simply wants to gain the ability to breed again, and guess what he will do to gain it: kill.
It's all they know. The Krogan are like rabbits armed with nuclear weapons.
Human history is a compendium written in blood. At least the krogan have an excuse with "it's genetic". Human warfare is waged for far more retarded reasons (Religion, politics)
Why don't we all just commit mass suicide?
You also seem to have completely forgotten about the City of the Ancients on Tuchanka.
Catamantaloedis wrote...
ReXspec wrote...
I can't believe the OP is actually fully advocating (and arguing about) genocide. Is anyone else believing this?
I DARE YOU to advocate Hitler's "Final Solution to the Jewish Question" and call a whole race a "plague" on society, because that is exactly what you are doing with the Krogan.
Also, inb4 OP or other users mention Prime Directive. Nature should decide on whether the Krogan live or die... not galactic politics.
The Jews were people. Therefore the National Socialists were evil. Don't insult my intelligence with such a stupid comparison.
Krogan are not people. They are less than animals.
Modifié par ReXspec, 12 mai 2012 - 12:24 .
MetioricTest wrote...
You do know the Krogan were more advanced than humans for most of history?
The difference is they actually had the nuclear fallout that we barely av
oided and it ****ed them up royal. The parrel is an intentional "What could have been"
Calling them less than animals is calling humanity less than animals.
ReXspec wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
ReXspec wrote...
I can't believe the OP is actually fully advocating (and arguing about) genocide. Is anyone else believing this?
I DARE YOU to advocate Hitler's "Final Solution to the Jewish Question" and call a whole race a "plague" on society, because that is exactly what you are doing with the Krogan.
Also, inb4 OP or other users mention Prime Directive. Nature should decide on whether the Krogan live or die... not galactic politics.
The Jews were people. Therefore the National Socialists were evil. Don't insult my intelligence with such a stupid comparison.
Krogan are not people. They are less than animals.
They are still sapient, you worthless mongoloid!
If Urdnot Bakkara's, Wrex's or the ENTIRE Tuchanka section of the game that had you fight the Reaper Destroyer was an contradiction to your whole argument! The Krogan had art, philosophy, and EVERYTHING else that make them comparitively "human."
Jesus... I'm in the military. If I actually met you, I would either have you bound and gagged in a padded wagon for genocidal tendencies, or beat the living **** out of you...
Modifié par Catamantaloedis, 12 mai 2012 - 12:25 .
So you admit that the Krogan are genetically designed to be murderous beasts, yet continue to defend them?
I must ask, are you insane?
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Greylycantrope wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
The Krogan have never shown themselves to have a single redeeming quality, while also showing that the have a penchant for genocidal warfare.
Eve, Charr, Wrex and Mr. Thax's representative disprove your arguement.
Is this some kind of joke?
o Ventus wrote...
So you admit that the Krogan are genetically designed to be murderous beasts, yet continue to defend them?
I must ask, are you insane?
You know what else is a "murderous beast"?
Mankind. My original question still stands. Should we all just off ourselves?
Greylycantrope wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Greylycantrope wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
The Krogan have never shown themselves to have a single redeeming quality, while also showing that the have a penchant for genocidal warfare.
Eve, Charr, Wrex and Mr. Thax's representative disprove your arguement.
Is this some kind of joke?
Which part of Eve or Charr's dialogue suggested they were blood thirsty or barbaric or wanted to destroy the other races, Charr had an Asari wife, Wrex specifically states war is not what he's looking for, and Eve also admits her peoples short comings but acts towards changing their culture, which part of those characterisitcs is irredeemable to you?
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