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[Reign Tsumiraki]

Okay, enough of this. 


 

[Pthosmosis]

Maybe there is some truth to what the Reaper's say, that organic life simply leads to chaos and Order needs to be imposed upon it by those that have reached the pinnacle of evolution.

[Catamantaloedis]

sigma_draconis wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Wrex has never made it past Virmire and he never will. He showed just how disloyal Krogan can be when he turned his gun on me, a human! I did not hesitate to have Ashley kill him. He was not worthy to be killed by me.

1. You were deciding on something that affected Krogans as a whole, so obviously he wasn't exactly happy with you possibly dooming his race to extinction. And why does it matter that you were a human? Does the fact that you're a human somehow makes it worse since you consider humans to be superior? Somehow I think I know the answer the that one.

2. You're conveniently forgetting the fact that Ashley/Kaiden and Legion did the same against you, and Ashley/Kaiden wasn't even to protect humans, but only the council. But I guess it's okay when they do it because they're humans, not krogans right?

1. Humans are superior.
2. When they did that, knowing that they were human and therefore rational beings, I suspected that they might have other motivations, such as loyalty or duty affecting their actions. The mindless Krogan could only feel his genitals pulsing.

That's why he turned on me.

Modifié par Catamantaloedis, 12 mai 2012 - 02:14 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

Wrex, what's your input on all this?



Ah, I see.

[Vespervin]

I never heard Wrex say that. Well, to be honest, I only ever heard him choke on his own blood back on Virmire.

[Catamantaloedis]

Vespervin wrote...

I never heard Wrex say that. Well, to be honest, I only ever heard him choke on his own blood back on Virmire.

A wise decision. There's only one image of Wrex I can bare to stand:

http://desmond.image...pg&res=landing 

[KotorEffect3]

MisterJB wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

We are asking the Krogan throw themselves at the reapers to save the same species that deployed the genophage against them. They have every right to demand a cure.

What about the humans? We have done nothing to them and we are also dying by the millions on Earth.
That is what I would have liked to ask Wrex. Not that it wasn't smart to use political leverage to gain a cure, of course.

We are trying to get Turian support and we get that by getting Krogan support.  Why should Wrex worry about us when he has about 3 things that can screw his people over Genophage, Reapers poisoning the atomosphere, and old Turian bomb.  Diplomacy has always been you scratch my back then I will scratch yours.  You advocate earth first and that is fine from a human POV but don't begrudge Wrex doing the same thing when it comes to his people.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 12 mai 2012 - 03:15 .

[ReXspec]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Wrex, what's your input on all this?



Ah, I see.

I lol'd


Also,  /agree

[farhansdisplayname]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

 Why would I as a good upstanding human, ever cure the genophage? It keeps one of the most savage races in the whole galaxy under wraps and ensures that no human will ever have to die fighting some barbaric krogan horde. Even Wrex is just brute who will eventually try to expand his territory, maybe diplomatically for some time. His successors won't be so amenable.

In my opinion, the genophage doesn't go far out. Once we've tricked the Krogan into aiding us, of course after Wrex has been killed, then we should take the fight to Tuchanka and exterminate them as a race.

 http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

The mission on Tuchanka in ME3 showed us that the Krogan are not "just violence" as we thought. Remember that city we explored? The Krogan have a civilized side. The "lets kills them all" mentality is dangerous.

[KotorEffect3]

farhansdisplayname wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

 Why would I as a good upstanding human, ever cure the genophage? It keeps one of the most savage races in the whole galaxy under wraps and ensures that no human will ever have to die fighting some barbaric krogan horde. Even Wrex is just brute who will eventually try to expand his territory, maybe diplomatically for some time. His successors won't be so amenable.

In my opinion, the genophage doesn't go far out. Once we've tricked the Krogan into aiding us, of course after Wrex has been killed, then we should take the fight to Tuchanka and exterminate them as a race.

 http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

The mission on Tuchanka in ME3 showed us that the Krogan are not "just violence" as we thought. Remember that city we explored? The Krogan have a civilized side. The "lets kills them all" mentality is dangerous.

There are several times in ME 2 where the Krogan showed they are more than what people think.

[ReXspec]

Welp, time to do my civic duty.

[OmegaXI]

Look at it this way, if you saved the rachni them you should cure the Krogans.
That way if one gets to rowdy you unleash the other on them, think of it as a set of checks and balances.

[Simocrates]

Just a game, why do people get worked up over it?

[ReXspec]

Zanza86 wrote...

Just a game, why do people get worked up over it?

Irrelevent if users are emotionally invested in characters.

[GLR-0053]

ReXspec wrote...

Zanza86 wrote...

Just a game, why do people get worked up over it?

Irrelevent if users are emotionally invested in characters.

Off topic question what do you think of Tilt Roters?

[Catamantaloedis]

OmegaXI wrote...

Look at it this way, if you saved the rachni them you should cure the Krogans.
That way if one gets to rowdy you unleash the other on them, think of it as a set of checks and balances.

I did not save the Rachni. They are a savage race.

I refuse to stand by and abide the presence of Krogan savagery after the end of this Reaper War. Enough is enough. Extinction is practically calling them.

[Simocrates]

ReXspec wrote...

Zanza86 wrote...

Just a game, why do people get worked up over it?

Irrelevent if users are emotionally invested in characters.

But it is just a game, why do they let themselves get worked up over it?

[GLR-0053]

Zanza86 wrote...

ReXspec wrote...

Zanza86 wrote...

Just a game, why do people get worked up over it?

Irrelevent if users are emotionally invested in characters.

But it is just a game, why do they let themselves get worked up over it?

[ReXspec]

GLR-0053 wrote...

ReXspec wrote...

Zanza86 wrote...

Just a game, why do people get worked up over it?

Irrelevent if users are emotionally invested in characters.

Off topic question what do you think of Tilt Roters?

A simple VTOL design.  Efficient, tough and reliable.

[KotorEffect3]

Zanza86 wrote...

ReXspec wrote...

Zanza86 wrote...

Just a game, why do people get worked up over it?

Irrelevent if users are emotionally invested in characters.

But it is just a game, why do they let themselves get worked up over it?

Because the game is immersive as hell, that said there is a point where we can all lose perspective.

[MisterJB]

KotorEffect3 wrote...
We are trying to get Turian support and we get that by getting Krogan support.  Why should Wrex worry about us when he has about 3 things that can screw his people over Genophage, Reapers poisoning the atomosphere, and old Turian bomb.  Diplomacy has always been you scratch my back then I will scratch yours.  You advocate earth first and that is fine from a human POV but don't begrudge Wrex doing the same thing when it comes to his people.

Of course I don't but I was referring to this particular conversation after Sur'Kesh during which Wrex was not aware of bombs and the Reapers were not using the Shroud:

"Shepard: I hope you realize turians are dying while we sort this out.
Wrex: The genophage has been killing krogan for millenia. This is how it feels".

This suggests that the main reason Wrex whitholds his support is not just to obtain a cure; which is smart; but also because of a grudge against turians for deploing it. In that case, I would simply like to point out there are ways in which the krogan could support humanity while Shepard deals with the Genophage cure.
Humans have never done anything against the krogan.

[ReXspec]

Zanza86 wrote...

ReXspec wrote...

Zanza86 wrote...

Just a game, why do people get worked up over it?

Irrelevent if users are emotionally invested in characters.

But it is just a game, why do they let themselves get worked up over it?

You'd have to ask people why they like the game so much--why do people get so emotional over art, music, movies, or any other medium?  At the risk of sounding pretentious or melodramatic, because it "speaks" to them--rings true or appealing within a person's perception or conciousness.

Modifié par ReXspec, 12 mai 2012 - 03:54 .

[KotorEffect3]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

OmegaXI wrote...

Look at it this way, if you saved the rachni them you should cure the Krogans.
That way if one gets to rowdy you unleash the other on them, think of it as a set of checks and balances.

I did not save the Rachni. They are a savage race.

I refuse to stand by and abide the presence of Krogan savagery after the end of this Reaper War. Enough is enough. Extinction is practically calling them.

A bet you feel like a badass trying to sound all ruthless and genocidal behind your computer.

[Taboo]

 Wait we can't discuss the validity of life anymore?

[Catamantaloedis]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

OmegaXI wrote...

Look at it this way, if you saved the rachni them you should cure the Krogans.
That way if one gets to rowdy you unleash the other on them, think of it as a set of checks and balances.

I did not save the Rachni. They are a savage race.

I refuse to stand by and abide the presence of Krogan savagery after the end of this Reaper War. Enough is enough. Extinction is practically calling them.

A bet you feel like a badass trying to sound all ruthless and genocidal behind your computer.

I'm not trying to sound like anything. If the Krogan existed in this world of ours, I would kill them all myself, even if no one else joined me.