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There's no reason to cure the genophage.


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Brain vs Brawn, doesn't make one more savage then the other. Which in this case Brain won. (Salarian)

Lol I can understand that, It's hard to listen to negative views against your race/kind/etc. You'll naturally wana defend them, and it makes you biased, but thats not a bad thing.

I also state that if the Cold War went a different way the Earth could/would be no more. Ifs and Buts can't be used to form a far view/opinion on something.

Hate to use another WW2 remark but... "If Churchill was actually an ex-n*zi general, does that make him less of a hero?"

^A very stupid comment, but it points out how If/But's don't change facts about a person/race/nation


Churchill got his unit killed in WW1 does that make him less of a hero in ww2? would have been a better comment..

the Salarins won by the skin of their teeth..they were despreate becuase the krogans were slaughtering all of them left and right..they were butchering the homeworlds..at least they were butchering the turian homeworld. they had no choice but to use the Genophadge to succeed..So I point back to humans..this was not needed. We had the first contact war and then peace was brokered between humans and turains.  If we look at how humanity is repersented, we are ambitious and want to have our own niche in the glaxy..the krogan deep down want to fight the entire galaxy and show them that they are the strongest fighters the galaxy has ever seen..look at what they consider scientests..it is just krogans figureing out how to kill other species in new and fun ways. Which I find funny..but you get my point...Humans are desgining weapons as well but are also looking for new advances to bring our society up.   

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Sure they'd be more trusting. But they'd probably take steps to ensure that another genophage would never be possible.

That's why I think it's better to simply kill two birds with one stone by destroying the Reapers and any hope for the genophage together.


What steps could they possibly take? they have no scientists....none that could actually do anything to help the situation anyway... As long as we developed a new genophadge and had people on stand by to insert it back into the population we would not have any trouble.

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thesnake777 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Sure they'd be more trusting. But they'd probably take steps to ensure that another genophage would never be possible.

That's why I think it's better to simply kill two birds with one stone by destroying the Reapers and any hope for the genophage together.


What steps could they possibly take? they have no scientists....none that could actually do anything to help the situation anyway... As long as we developed a new genophadge and had people on stand by to insert it back into the population we would not have any trouble.


Not sure what steps they could take. But there's no telling what could happen. Not to mention the Krogan sympathizers who might become involved. And I see no benefit in curing the genophage. The reinforcements from their reproduction won't arrive in enough time to assist with the Crucible. And if the Crucible fails then all is lost anyway, no number of Krogan will make a difference.

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Alright who necro'd this thread and why?

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Not sure what steps they could take. But there's no telling what could happen. Not to mention the Krogan sympathizers who might become involved. And I see no benefit in curing the genophage. The reinforcements from their reproduction won't arrive in enough time to assist with the Crucible. And if the Crucible fails then all is lost anyway, no number of Krogan will make a difference.


This is mainly in prep for what is to come after the Reapers. So what if their are sympathizers? that wouldent stop us from getting the job done.

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thesnake777 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...


Brain vs Brawn, doesn't make one more savage then the other. Which in this case Brain won. (Salarian)

Lol I can understand that, It's hard to listen to negative views against your race/kind/etc. You'll naturally wana defend them, and it makes you biased, but thats not a bad thing.

I also state that if the Cold War went a different way the Earth could/would be no more. Ifs and Buts can't be used to form a far view/opinion on something.

Hate to use another WW2 remark but... "If Churchill was actually an ex-n*zi general, does that make him less of a hero?"

^A very stupid comment, but it points out how If/But's don't change facts about a person/race/nation


Churchill got his unit killed in WW1 does that make him less of a hero in ww2? would have been a better comment..

the Salarins won by the skin of their teeth..they were despreate becuase the krogans were slaughtering all of them left and right..they were butchering the homeworlds..at least they were butchering the turian homeworld. they had no choice but to use the Genophadge to succeed..So I point back to humans..this was not needed. We had the first contact war and then peace was brokered between humans and turains.  If we look at how humanity is repersented, we are ambitious and want to have our own niche in the glaxy..the krogan deep down want to fight the entire galaxy and show them that they are the strongest fighters the galaxy has ever seen..look at what they consider scientests..it is just krogans figureing out how to kill other species in new and fun ways. Which I find funny..but you get my point...Humans are desgining weapons as well but are also looking for new advances to bring our society up.   


Tbf, a large % of Human advancement comes from war. Which does make sense, if your at peace and not threatened, your not rushed to push for goals. Most advances that benefit man are bi-products from conflicts.

It's obvious we arn't going to agree on this so, may aswell agree to disagree.

But I will say this, it's still harsh/savage to punish a species for crimes commited by their ancestors. IMO, that makes the punisher more savage then those they are punishing.

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Terrorize69 wrote...


Tbf, a large % of Human advancement comes from war. Which does make sense, if your at peace and not threatened, your not rushed to push for goals. Most advances that benefit man are bi-products from conflicts.

It's obvious we arn't going to agree on this so, may aswell agree to disagree.

But I will say this, it's still harsh/savage to punish a species for crimes commited by their ancestors. IMO, that makes the punisher more savage then those they are punishing.


hahah Well its been an intersting debate. Lets do it again on a different subject some time.

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thesnake777 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Sure they'd be more trusting. But they'd probably take steps to ensure that another genophage would never be possible.

That's why I think it's better to simply kill two birds with one stone by destroying the Reapers and any hope for the genophage together.


What steps could they possibly take? they have no scientists....none that could actually do anything to help the situation anyway... As long as we developed a new genophadge and had people on stand by to insert it back into the population we would not have any trouble.

did you forget Warlord Okeer, or Fortack THE Lord High Researcher of Clan Urdnot. Krogan scientist exist BUT they are few and farbetween. There was enough of them to develope Nuclear tech.

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did you forget Warlord Okeer, or Fortack THE Lord High Researcher of Clan Urdnot. Krogan scientist exist BUT they are few and farbetween. There was enough of them to develope Nuclear tech.

I did not forget about Okeer..however he dident care about the genophadge...as for Fortack...his idea of reserch was how to kill thing in different and fun ways. They are extremely few and lack the skills to really do anything to take steps to stop the genohpadge from being reintroduced. 

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thesnake777 wrote...

DRTJR wrote...
did you forget Warlord Okeer, or Fortack THE Lord High Researcher of Clan Urdnot. Krogan scientist exist BUT they are few and farbetween. There was enough of them to develope Nuclear tech.

I did not forget about Okeer..however he dident care about the genophadge...as for Fortack...his idea of reserch was how to kill thing in different and fun ways. They are extremely few and lack the skills to really do anything to take steps to stop the genohpadge from being reintroduced. 

“With that, I will inflict upon the genophage the greatest insult an enemy can suffer. To be ignored.”

Okeer. 

Krogan Scientist are a numbers game, if 1 in100,000 krogan become scientist then in a hundred years you'll have over 1,000,000 scientists, of which if 1/2 of 1% work on Genophage pervention then 5,000 scientist will be working on it.

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DRTJR wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

DRTJR wrote...
did you forget Warlord Okeer, or Fortack THE Lord High Researcher of Clan Urdnot. Krogan scientist exist BUT they are few and farbetween. There was enough of them to develope Nuclear tech.

I did not forget about Okeer..however he dident care about the genophadge...as for Fortack...his idea of reserch was how to kill thing in different and fun ways. They are extremely few and lack the skills to really do anything to take steps to stop the genohpadge from being reintroduced. 

“With that, I will inflict upon the genophage the greatest insult an enemy can suffer. To be ignored.”

Okeer. 

Krogan Scientist are a numbers game, if 1 in100,000 krogan become scientist then in a hundred years you'll have over 1,000,000 scientists, of which if 1/2 of 1% work on Genophage pervention then 5,000 scientist will be working on it.


Yea its a numbers game with terrible facillites and no way to organize there reasearch..they would be unpreapered to face the another genophadge if it was inflicted a few years after the cure...

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The genophage isn't genocide, it's a controlled birth rate, that's been stressed firmly in the series. There's a couple of billion Krogan on Tuchanka, and they would exist with quite a stable population if the Krogan didn't keep throwing their lives away needlessly in blood feuds and as mercenaries.

With a trillion possible Krogan births within the first twelve months of the genophage being cured, I can't help but see an issue of resources on the horizon. With violence being their bread and butter, rather than rational thought, I can't see it going well either.

As it's a game, and not real life, I have no real problem with not curing the genophage. I would be plagued with tremendous doubt if this situation was real, but all options would have to be considered. Properly. I don't think the fact that humans are nasty is an argument for either side, though.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

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I can only cure the genophage if wrex is in power. Wreav on the other hand....


Then you're a short-sighted fool. Savages will always be savages.


erm...you mean like, humans?

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jules_vern18 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

I can only cure the genophage if wrex is in power. Wreav on the other hand....


Then you're a short-sighted fool. Savages will always be savages.


erm...you mean like, humans?


I remember that time when humans destroyed our own race and all life on Earth with us.

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Sometimes i understand why krogan want to shoot everyone in sight.

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Your proposal makes you no better than the Krogan. Or the Reapers, for that matter.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

wsandista wrote...

To everyone still taking cameltrollitis seriously

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Troll is a word people use when they have nothing of worth to say.


I'm afraid not.

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Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Your proposal makes you no better than the Krogan. Or the Reapers, for that matter.


Its a simple question of destroy or be destroyed. You would destroy the Reapers because they would destroy you. Therefore, using this logic, it only makes sense to destroy the Krogan.

They have shown that they cannot be defeated forever. Even the genophage cannot secure their defeat. Therefore, they must be destroyed.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Its a simple question of destroy or be destroyed. You would destroy the Reapers because they would destroy you. Therefore, using this logic, it only makes sense to destroy the Krogan.

They have shown that they cannot be defeated forever. Even the genophage cannot secure their defeat. Therefore, they must be destroyed.


Using this logic, all the Germans in WW2 needed to be killed because of the ****z. Is that fair?

Modifié par HagarIshay, 19 juin 2012 - 04:31 .


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HagarIshay wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Its a simple question of destroy or be destroyed. You would destroy the Reapers because they would destroy you. Therefore, using this logic, it only makes sense to destroy the Krogan.

They have shown that they cannot be defeated forever. Even the genophage cannot secure their defeat. Therefore, they must be destroyed.


Using this logic, all the Germans in WW2 needed to be killed because of the ****z. Is that fair?


You brought this topic back?

You ****.