EsterCloat wrote...
And if they don't?MegaSovereign wrote...
Negative, there can be no retreat. NO RETREAT! No stepping back, no stepping forward AND NO destroying reaper forces.
No defeating the reapers. no defeating the reapers. Innocent people die.
justafan wrote...
If we didn't get Krogan support, there would be no future to worry about. If the Genophage was sabotaged, that support would be gone the moment the females began birthing stillborns again. At the time I had no idea how long the war with the reapers would take, so I decided I would not risk losing Krogan support, and that the Salarians would come around once Reapers began landing on Sur-Kesh.
In any case, the Krogan brute force means nothing to an orbital bombardment, and it would take generations for the Krogan to get a fleet that could challenge the combined might of the Humans and Turians. Not to mention a second genophage shouldn't be too hard to make if necessary.
Modifié par xsdob, 11 mai 2012 - 12:26 .
Darth_Trethon wrote...
The OP is a bit confrontational about the issue but he does have very valid points. The Krogan are not ready to be cured period. They are just as violent and out of control as before....all a cure would do is send them on a revenge frenzy that would be devastating to what remains of the universe once the reapers are gone. You HAVE to remember Krogans drove asteroids into colonies killing millions and billions of innocents during the Krogan rebellions. Wrex is old and when's the last time anyone heard of a Krogan leader dying of old age?
The genophage must NOT be cured in any way, shape or form.
As far as wiping out an entire species....I'd be more concerned about the Yahg. I'd nuke their planet to dust without a second thought. If they ever become a space faring species they are going to be a far larger problem than the Krogan because they aren't just ruthless and violent and completely beyond insane but they are intelligent too.
xsdob wrote...
Alright, I tried at least. Enjoy your hatred for the krogan, I'll be enjoying walking my own path of peace and renewed equality while you fight till the end of time against every and all aliens.
Like shepard said, "Whose next, turians? You don't like them either, right?"
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Alright, I tried at least. Enjoy your hatred for the krogan, I'll be enjoying walking my own path of peace and renewed equality while you fight till the end of time against every and all aliens.
Like shepard said, "Whose next, turians? You don't like them either, right?"
Turians are a civilized race, equal to human beings.
Catamantaloedis wrote...
justafan wrote...
If we didn't get Krogan support, there would be no future to worry about. If the Genophage was sabotaged, that support would be gone the moment the females began birthing stillborns again. At the time I had no idea how long the war with the reapers would take, so I decided I would not risk losing Krogan support, and that the Salarians would come around once Reapers began landing on Sur-Kesh.
In any case, the Krogan brute force means nothing to an orbital bombardment, and it would take generations for the Krogan to get a fleet that could challenge the combined might of the Humans and Turians. Not to mention a second genophage shouldn't be too hard to make if necessary.
If deceived Krogan support allows you enough time for the Crucible to be built, then there's no reason to cure the genophage. It's only the short term that matters.
Once the Reapers are dealt with, we are free to destroy the helpless Krogan and their children.
Modifié par justafan, 11 mai 2012 - 12:32 .
xsdob wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Alright, I tried at least. Enjoy your hatred for the krogan, I'll be enjoying walking my own path of peace and renewed equality while you fight till the end of time against every and all aliens.
Like shepard said, "Whose next, turians? You don't like them either, right?"
Turians are a civilized race, equal to human beings.
You called them a military dictatorship.
xsdob wrote...
Alright, I tried at least. Enjoy your hatred for the krogan, I'll be enjoying walking my own path of peace and renewed equality while you fight till the end of time against every and all aliens.
Like shepard said, "Whose next, turians? You don't like them either, right?"
justafan wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
justafan wrote...
If we didn't get Krogan support, there would be no future to worry about. If the Genophage was sabotaged, that support would be gone the moment the females began birthing stillborns again. At the time I had no idea how long the war with the reapers would take, so I decided I would not risk losing Krogan support, and that the Salarians would come around once Reapers began landing on Sur-Kesh.
In any case, the Krogan brute force means nothing to an orbital bombardment, and it would take generations for the Krogan to get a fleet that could challenge the combined might of the Humans and Turians. Not to mention a second genophage shouldn't be too hard to make if necessary.
If deceived Krogan support allows you enough time for the Crucible to be built, then there's no reason to cure the genophage. It's only the short term that matters.
Once the Reapers are dealt with, we are free to destroy the helpless Krogan and their children.
True, but you have no idea how long it will take to build the Crucible, and the Krogan seem to be the type to give birth relatively quickly. Either way though, Mordin predicted that the Humans and Turians would exterminate the Krogan if they rebelled again, so I'm not worried about them getting out of line. Maybe a few million of billion would die if the Krogan rebelled, but trillions would die if the reapers won.
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Alright, I tried at least. Enjoy your hatred for the krogan, I'll be enjoying walking my own path of peace and renewed equality while you fight till the end of time against every and all aliens.
Like shepard said, "Whose next, turians? You don't like them either, right?"
Turians are a civilized race, equal to human beings.
You called them a military dictatorship.
Which they are. That does not mean that their race is not civilized, just because I disagree with their (and Bioware's) choice of government.
xsdob wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Alright, I tried at least. Enjoy your hatred for the krogan, I'll be enjoying walking my own path of peace and renewed equality while you fight till the end of time against every and all aliens.
Like shepard said, "Whose next, turians? You don't like them either, right?"
Turians are a civilized race, equal to human beings.
You called them a military dictatorship.
Which they are. That does not mean that their race is not civilized, just because I disagree with their (and Bioware's) choice of government.
Generally thats a bad thing to be called, also that thread before should have taught me to stay away from this one, but I'm the type of guy who gives people chances.
Henioo wrote...
You know, they used to justify the African Slave Trade with savagery.
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Henioo wrote...
You know, they used to justify the African Slave Trade with savagery.
That's ridiculous. African are clearly humans.
Krogan however, are not even people. I'm convinced that they have no higher brain functioning whatsoever.
xsdob wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Henioo wrote...
You know, they used to justify the African Slave Trade with savagery.
That's ridiculous. African are clearly humans.
Krogan however, are not even people. I'm convinced that they have no higher brain functioning whatsoever.
Not to the olden day white man they weren't, to them they simply looked human, and were infact 3/5ths an actual human being.
That was printed in the constitution by the way, part of the landowners rights.
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Henioo wrote...
You know, they used to justify the African Slave Trade with savagery.
That's ridiculous. African are clearly humans.
Krogan however, are not even people. I'm convinced that they have no higher brain functioning whatsoever.
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Henioo wrote...
You know, they used to justify the African Slave Trade with savagery.
That's ridiculous. African are clearly humans.
Krogan however, are not even people. I'm convinced that they have no higher brain functioning whatsoever.
Not to the olden day white man they weren't, to them they simply looked human, and were infact 3/5ths an actual human being.
That was printed in the constitution by the way, part of the landowners rights.
Never heard of it.
None of that matters anyway. Krogan are not human and they are not people. They are savage. Less valuable than animals actually.
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Henioo wrote...
You know, they used to justify the African Slave Trade with savagery.
That's ridiculous. African are clearly humans.
Krogan however, are not even people. I'm convinced that they have no higher brain functioning whatsoever.
Not to the olden day white man they weren't, to them they simply looked human, and were infact 3/5ths an actual human being.
That was printed in the constitution by the way, part of the landowners rights.
Never heard of it.
None of that matters anyway. Krogan are not human and they are not people. They are savage. Less valuable than animals actually.
Meetthekiller77 wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Catamantaloedis wrote...
Henioo wrote...
You know, they used to justify the African Slave Trade with savagery.
That's ridiculous. African are clearly humans.
Krogan however, are not even people. I'm convinced that they have no higher brain functioning whatsoever.
Not to the olden day white man they weren't, to them they simply looked human, and were infact 3/5ths an actual human being.
That was printed in the constitution by the way, part of the landowners rights.
Never heard of it.
None of that matters anyway. Krogan are not human and they are not people. They are savage. Less valuable than animals actually.
Oh, I see, going back to the morals of slavery, the holocaust, AND nearly every other atrocity ever. Would you kill your dog, simply because it is not human? Or perhaps massacre every animal on earth?
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