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[Subject M]

The Krogans under the leadership of Wrex ans Eve would seem like to have a good chance to keep the Krogans in line because they would understand that another war between krogan vs everyone else would truly be devastating for everyone. Thats why I personally think that curing the genophage is the right thing if they are n charge. The Krogan under Wreav is another thing entirely.

[Vespervin]

Turian Councilor: Do you take pleasure from committing genocide, Shepard? 
Commander Shepard: Depends on the species, Turian. 

[locsphere]

Not to mention you strand every race in the galaxy at Earth and with Krogans able to breed they are in trouble.

[hammerfan]

Oooh lookie, starbrat got BSN account

[BatmanTurian]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

 Why would I as a good upstanding human, ever cure the genophage? It keeps one of the most savage races in the whole galaxy under wraps and ensures that no human will ever have to die fighting some barbaric krogan horde. Even Wrex is just brute who will eventually try to expand his territory, maybe diplomatically for some time. His successors won't be so amenable.

In my opinion, the genophage doesn't go far out. Once we've tricked the Krogan into aiding us, of course after Wrex has been killed, then we should take the fight to Tuchanka and exterminate them as a race.

 http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

OP needs to realize we are more like Krogan than we like to admit. We have been a belligerent, savage, expansionist species for most of our existence. Even when we get into space, we're still twisting the arms of the Asari, Salarians, and Turians to become a Council species. We are Krogan inside but mammalian on the outside. To think otherwise is to be utterly delusional. It's why Humans get along so well with Krogan. Our only saving grace to the Council is that we do not breed more than one child per birth.

Also, if you cure the genophage, besides the obvious moral reason to do so, the Krogan have a much more salient reason for fighting for the galaxy even harder because now they have hope and they have a future worth fighting hard for.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 11 mai 2012 - 03:29 .

[Ravenmyste]

i rather fond of the krogan they didn't deserve what they gotten, but maybe eve will work into there thick heads and say we cant go and take over all worlds wrex and expect not to be given disease that kills 1million babies on month time that's stupid to expect no one to say hey we are making babies and going to over throw every world that did this to us .. oh wait, Shepard.... helped us okay guys no more killing innocent worlds that's in the past we must work with other worlds...

if no one can understand what i am saying the genophage scientist went over board because 2 races didn't want to work with a race that could make babies faster then cockroaches and not have a serve repercussion from saying we helped you so you defend us, no we are going to kill your race, so we dont have to worry about you race any more..

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 11 mai 2012 - 03:28 .

[JBPBRC]

If you really don't want to cure the genophage...don't cure the genophage. Simple as that. Don't like Wrex? Kill him. You have two opportunities, use 'em or lose 'em.

[MattFini]

The OP made me laugh loud and long.

Mission accomplished.

[Oldbones2]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

 Why would I as a good upstanding human, ever cure the genophage? It keeps one of the most savage races in the whole galaxy under wraps and ensures that no human will ever have to die fighting some barbaric krogan horde. Even Wrex is just brute who will eventually try to expand his territory, maybe diplomatically for some time. His successors won't be so amenable.

In my opinion, the genophage doesn't go far out. Once we've tricked the Krogan into aiding us, of course after Wrex has been killed, then we should take the fight to Tuchanka and exterminate them as a race.

 http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

Thank god a human life is inherently more valuable and entitled to exist than a Krogan one, eh?

Otherwise what you are suggesting would be down right monstrous.

[richard_rider]

I like the Krogan, if anything I dislike the sneaky Salarians, and the tricky Turians...

[Xellith]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I guess the Krogan have no reason to help you, then.

I don't want them. Well, not as anything more than meat shields. They're too savage for anything else.

say what? BEHOLD - THE MOST POLITE KROGAN.

www.youtube.com/watch

[goofyomnivore]

I'd be lying if I said I felt 'okay' curing the genophage. I trust Eve and Wrex, but other krogan, no way. I'd never cure it if Wreav was alive.

[iorveth1271]

Oh look, someone did not read the codex.

Try harder, troll.

[vixvicco]

Dantexr3 wrote...

Why? Wrex is a good bro and Baby Grunt is cute.

Agreed. This was my motivation to cure the genophage.  

[FOX216BC]

What's next shoot garrus in the head...
Oh now i get it, OP likes trolling.

[An English Gamer]

Did this guy seriously just post a thread like this? We should eat him.

[Applepie_Svk]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

 Why would I as a good upstanding human, ever cure the genophage? It keeps one of the most savage races in the whole galaxy under wraps and ensures that no human will ever have to die fighting some barbaric krogan horde. Even Wrex is just brute who will eventually try to expand his territory, maybe diplomatically for some time. His successors won't be so amenable.
In my opinion, the genophage doesn't go far out. Once we've tricked the Krogan into aiding us, of course after Wrex has been killed, then we should take the fight to Tuchanka and exterminate them as a race.

 

The difference betwen Wreav and Wrex is signifficant...

Wreav is trying to cure genophage only for his selfish reasons - he want a build new krogan empire and take a payback after end of the war. So uncle Wreav after war rise his filty hands on galaxy map and start planning next invasion to Palaven or Sur´Kesh or even the Earth, and as was said they probably lose that time. With Palaven in the ashes with a bilions of fallen - they have even problems to keep a food and supply. Surkesh is maybe intact but we know they are not good in close combat and their fleets look tiny from war effort list.

Wrex, he was maybe time before thug, gun for a hire but he keep his word - kind of honor even for savage brute isn´t it ? With Wrex´s leadership is future for krogans more than possibile, still it will be rough path - krogans will maybe try to fight with Urndot maybe, and also he will need to learn his peoples to work in other ways than soldiers.
There is plenty planets which were destroyed by Krogan´s wrong stance. And you can´t blame him for his attitude, the genophage, a Bomb, Reaper and even after all that he should willingly support the major enemies of his species....
Eve is the reason why i believe in bright future even for a krogans, if there will be more women like she than we could have even reasonable krogans which don´t try to head-butt or shoot everything in range.

My speculation
Something neutral betwen them both could be a Grunt as a leader, I have seen him as a brute from one side but from other as a warrior and reasonable dude. He could lead krogans to strange future maybe even future of separation from galaxy - future of wisdom and changes. He don´t care about genophage, about old grudges even if he understand them  - yes he like to fight but he has no obvious plans for gaining power and that is maybe best reason why he should be a new leader

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 11 mai 2012 - 04:50 .

[AntiChri5]

We are going to need a massive krogan army to put down the inevitable Yahg rebellions, since the Salarians didn't seem to learn their lesson the first time.

[ResultsWillVary]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

 Why would I as a good upstanding human, ever cure the genophage? It keeps one of the most savage races in the whole galaxy under wraps and ensures that no human will ever have to die fighting some barbaric krogan horde. Even Wrex is just brute who will eventually try to expand his territory, maybe diplomatically for some time. His successors won't be so amenable.

In my opinion, the genophage doesn't go far out. Once we've tricked the Krogan into aiding us, of course after Wrex has been killed, then we should take the fight to Tuchanka and exterminate them as a race.

 http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

I didn't know that the Salarian Dalatrass has a BSN account... 

[shodiswe]

While I agree the Krogan might possible do the wrong thign in the future considering their past, especialy given their extreme population increase potential, long lives lots of kids...

Still if they fight the reapers then they might as well have that second chance, after defeatign the reapers the galaxy will be more united than ever. If they actualy try something then they are likely to meet a lot of opposition.

As of right now in real life the human population on earth is expanding like bacteria in a petridish... Eventual the earth wont be able ot sustain the population.
And this probably wont be a soft crash into the sustainability of our planet... because the earth has the potential to temporarily feed more people than it can sustain in the logn run eventualy ecology systems will fail catastrophically and then the buffer will be gone and by that a very large part of the curently availabel food sources will be destroyed for a very long time, it takes a lot of time for nature to recover the loosses of entire ecosystems.
A very large portion of the earths population gets their food from the sea, in a few decades we might not be able to get one third of our current catch of fish... maybe a lot less.

We will start runing out of Guano based fertilizers in a few decades. This will affect the way farmers grow crops and soem farmland wont be abel to keep up the production of it's current crops, maybe if they change crops and adapt their methods they could salvage some of the production capacity.. If they make the wrong decitions they will end up with infertile soil that wont be able to produce any edible crops.

I wonder what the world will look like with billions of starving desperate people..

Also this is what hapend to the Drell, the hanar manged to save some of their people but their homeworld was destroyed.

Seriously im shocked noone seems to care abotu the population increase on planet earth in real life.. I guess it would be political suicide to adress the issue or even talk about it.

I wonder how civilized humans will seem a few decades from now... I have a feeling the Krogans will look very civilized and friendy compared to whats left of humanity.

The case is probably this: There is no political decition no matter how extreme that can save earth... so sigh... Lets party while we can.

And really if you look at the Krogans situation they arn't that bad, considering how poorly they are being treated and what's hapend to them, they incredibly well tempered. They are even prepared to strike deals and work out their problems peacefully.

[Seboist]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Yes because humanity has never commited ****ing horrible crimes. Sure genocide is the way to go just ignore the good aspects of the Krogan they're all dumb brutes.

Good aspects? Ha!

Wrex's Urdnot buddies love burning prisoners alive and feeding them to Varren, why WOULDN'T you want there to be more of that with a genophage cure?

Wrex and Eve will make great messianic leaders that'll make the Krogan peaceful for sure. The complete lack of indication there's ever going ANY social reform amongst their species is proof of that.

[GreyLycanTrope]

An English Gamer wrote...

Did this guy seriously just post a thread like this? We should eat him.

Seconded, I'll get the eating utensils. You suppose racists taste like chicken?

[Catamantaloedis]

There is not, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever be a single Krogan worthy of life.

I would exterminate 1 million Krogan, if even a single one of them took the wrong tone with me.

If I even entertained the prospect of allowing the Krogan to live( I would not), it would depend entirely on their submission into a life of complete subservience to the civilized species of the galaxy. That is the only circumstance in which the Krogan would even be considered for life. Besides that, after they've all been massacred, I would save a few of them to be used as test subjects for experiments too brutal for animals, and perhaps as a source of the finest leathers.

[Catamantaloedis]

wiggles89 wrote...

Allowing a race of ultraviolent man lizards to multiply like cockroaches is a bad idea. And lol at trusting Wrex and Eve to change the krogan for the better.

Someone with logic.