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[shurikenmanta]

legion999 wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

ohupthis wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Is it really suprising they were voted worst company in America?

Nope. It's fairly typical Americanism that Day 1 DLC and 'DEY RUIND MAH GHEYM' is seen as worse than poisoning people, torturing animals and profiting off African deaths.

You actually see a problem with this?

Day 1 DLC is a plain and simple rip-off.

I never bought that fugly prothean character, and whenever I see it, I go ack, shoot it quick he's a collector!!!!

...yes, I see a horrific problem with this.

If anyone actually believes this, we deserve extinction.

If there's people who believe we all deserve to die because they have a different opinion then there are no words to describe how pathetic that is.

If that's what I said, sure. Pity it wasn't...

I shouldn't have to explain to you what a terrible indictment on humanity is when people believe a company that screws people out of what they want is worse than a company who profits off death and suffering.

Modifié par shurikenmanta, 11 mai 2012 - 12:59 .

[TUHD]

Well, at least it can't be worse yet then Capcom who removed the true ending of Asuras Wrath and sold it as DLC for $10/€10...

Wait... now I am giving EA ideas :/

[G00N3R7883]

Well in the end its going to backfire on EA, at least in terms of accessing MY money. I have a very strong sense of value for money. I try to work on the basis of £1 = 1 hour of entertainment. RPGs tend to quite comfortably achieve that ratio, so I don't mind buying DLC, especially for my favourite franchises like Mass Effect.

But EA are going to have a problem hitting that ratio in other genres. For example, a FPS with a 6 hour singleplayer campaign (and a multiplayer mode that fails to tempt me away from Killing Floor)? I'm probably not paying £30 for that on release. I'm certainly not paying extra for day 1 DLC. I'll wait until its been out a while and the price is more reasonable.

xsdob wrote...

Mass effect 2 had day 1 dlc, Dragon age 2 had day 1 dlc, so what exactly was different from those?

In ME2, Zaeed wasn't all that important. You could easily play the game and understand everything that happens, without him.

In DA2, Sebastian wasn't all that important. You could easily play the game and understand everything that happens, without him. (I haven't actually bought this DLC, and I've never had the feeling from other forum users that I missed anything special).

In ME3, Javik is essential. I really can't see how anyone could consider their game complete without him. We've been told how important the Protheans are since about 5 minutes into ME1. Through Javik, the player gets a ton of insight into the Prothean culture, their final moments fighting the Reapers in the last cycle, how they view the "younger" races.

By comparison, James was alot more on Zaeed's level of importance. James wasn't integral to the overall story, and as a Human he served very little cultural or historical significance. If there absoluely HAS to be a DLC character, it should have been James.

[locsphere]

I love it when they boast about a bad business practice! It only enables me to continue my not buying their games. This day one DLC only worked because of Mass Effects previous success its a cheap trick to make money and we have all had enough.

[Apfelweinbrauer]

GiarcYekrub wrote...
Lets face it EA need to make money or else they can't make games, last year they made a net loss of $276million

Is this actually true? That's quite astounding actually, has anybody some kind of source for this claim?

[locsphere]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...
Lets face it EA need to make money or else they can't make games, last year they made a net loss of $276million

Is this actually true? That's quite astounding actually, has anybody some kind of source for this claim?

Thats why anything that gets to large can never be sustained. Big Govornment, Big Corporations, Big anything when it gets way bigger than it can support, will eventually crash and go away as its need to literally and figuativly feed on Taxes, Profits, becomes to great to sustain itself. A crash comes and purging fire comes along and then makes new successes only to rise and fall again. Sad but true. Bad business practices only prolongues the inevitable. Alienating your core consumer and eventually they wise up to the tricks and move on. Then come Marketing campaigns and boasting about bad business practices which seals the deal in the companies failure. I know a lot of people in Business and marketing.

[luzburg]

since EA had so mutch in minus i hope they go down ME3 barly got EA green nubers in a long time

[Apfelweinbrauer]

luzburg wrote...

since EA had so mutch in minus i hope they go down ME3 barly got EA green nubers in a long time

Everybody takes these numbers for granted, but aren't they just a rumor until someone brings up a credible source for it?

[dbt-kenny]

ArthurVon wrote...

Trolls always take pleasure in successfull trolling.

I cannot wait for Troll Bridge to come out, I am big TP fan he know what his customers like unlike EA,

I think sout park got EA down to a tea if you ask me.

[Warbuckaz]

purposefully stripped ?! If this was intentionally done?!?..I .I awww man,, WOW is all i can say.

[RyrineaNara]

Why do people tend to see Libearls as hateing the corptions just because we call for stuff to be regluted? I for one don't hate corptions for making that money. I do however have a promble with this type of behavior in the corpete world. I want reglutions to stop things like this from happening. I also would say that Javki was cut for the dlc part since of, how well he interacts with the crew memebers, unlike Zeed and Kusmai who stays in their rooms for the most part during the game.

[knightnblu]

The games industry is a business. Business seeks to make a profit. The consumer seeks to pay as little as they can in order to get what they want. That's just economics. What EA does is to force the players back up against the wall, compromise him, and sell him something he needs to get out of that situation. By using such a business model EA is being coercive, manipulative, and unethical. It isn't that they do this that makes people hate them with a passion. It is that they do so proudly and basically tell their customers to kiss their backsides that makes them the Darth Vader of the gaming industry.
 
Recall the Vietnam vet who was terminally ill and couldn't get a refund for a plane ticket that his physician advised him not to use? Had Spirit Airlines had EA's CEO, he would still be waiting for it despite the bad publicity and hate mail because that's what they do. Most corporations are sensitive to public perceptions and spend a large amount of money on PR firms to insure that their customer base always has a good impression of them. They need to do this to insure that they are never separated from their revenue streams.
 
EA on the other hand is insulated from much of the ire of their consumers because they have cut outs between themselves and the customers. Take the ending debacle with ME3 for example. Who took more heat, BioWare or EA? The problem is that if you are angry with EA you have to take it out on their child companies in order to get to them because that is the only way you can disrupt their revenues. Of course, that means that you have to shred BioWare and any other child company under the EA umbrella in order to do that and that is something that the majority of gamers are unwilling to do. So the status quo becomes one of an ever simmering pot ready to boil over at a moments notice.
 
Eventually, this is all going to blow up in EA's face. You can only get away with EA's business practices for so long before the fans reach a saturation point and then EA is going to wish that they had considered the repercussions of their actions. I just don't see that day coming anytime soon. But fear not. The continued lack of response will embolden EA to greater heights of stupidity and they will eventually reach a limb that is too thin for their weight and it will snap.
 
Then the giant will fall.

[John Epler]

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