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[Hydralisk]

The ending of ME3 does not make sense.

The "Green" ending cannot happen, it is impossible, it stops being a
sci-fi game with lore that is pretty consistent and turns into a fantasy
game.

The endings are also very grim no matter what you pick when you put a
little though into it. Everyone is trapped on earth because all the
Mass Relays were destoryed. The Reapers have destroyed much of Earth
which was already a dump because of overpopulation, so feeding everyone
is impossible, many are going to die from starvation (also
Turians/Quarians are unable to digest anything that can be grown on
Earth). Do to the food shortage, wars are going to occur between the
different races (Krogans will kill everyone if you cured them), causing
even more bloodshed... basically everyone who is important to the plot
is going to die from either starvation or a civil war...

Also! where the **** was Joker going?

I could go into even more detail with more QQ'n... but I won't.
Overall, Mass Effect was one of my favorite trilogies until the last 5
minutes...<3

Modifié par Hydralisk, 11 mai 2012 - 08:11 .

[legion999]

Not that I disagree with you but this should be in the spoiler section.

[Hydralisk]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

There are a million topics on this, all of them disputing everything you wrote.

How can you make a logical argument as to how fusing the DNA of every Snythetic and Organic in the Universe makes any sense in a sci-fi setting?

I could see it in Dragon Age (if Dragon Age was in space ). But not Mass Effect.

[Loaderini]

it was not an ending that was decided by a team, but by 1-2 people. also, artistic integrity dude!

Modifié par Loaderini, 11 mai 2012 - 08:25 .

[Hydralisk]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...

How can you make a logical argument as to how fusing the DNA of every Snythetic and Organic in the Universe makes any sense in a sci-fi setting?

I could see it in Dragon Age (if Dragon Age was in space ). But not Mass Effect.

Seriously? We've already got chimeras. While not probable, I think it (the synthetic-organic fusing) is a valid extrapolation.

Cyborgs are totally possible.

Its the fact that the machine changes the inherit structure of DNA to include synthetic parts.

Just because you put metal parts in your body doesn't make your DNA party synthetic.

The machine is also doing this on an immense scale, the ENTIRE Universe.

It just sounds to far fetched. It is a total en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina.

[Hydralisk]

Loaderini wrote...

it was not an ending that was decided by a team, but by 1-2 persons. also, artistic integrity dude!

I can partially understand why that is there stance, but it seems like a cop out.

[Loaderini]

Hydralisk wrote...

Loaderini wrote...

it was not an ending that was decided by a team, but by 1-2 persons. also, artistic integrity dude!

I can partially understand why that is there stance, but it seems like a cop out.

it IS a cop out! they are EAndoctrinated

Modifié par Loaderini, 11 mai 2012 - 08:28 .

[Hydralisk]

It fits the definition perfectly.

"A deus ex machina is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object." -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina

That character being the Space Kid, and the ability being able to make DNA also incorparte Synthetic parts.

Good night.

I only posted about this because it was on my mind.

Modifié par Hydralisk, 11 mai 2012 - 08:30 .

[Hydralisk]

jreezy wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...

How can you make a logical argument as to how fusing the DNA of every Snythetic and Organic in the Universe makes any sense in a sci-fi setting?

I could see it in Dragon Age (if Dragon Age was in space ). But not Mass Effect.

Seriously? We've already got chimeras. While not probable, I think it (the synthetic-organic fusing) is a valid extrapolation.

Cyborgs are totally possible.

Its the fact that the machine changes the inherit structure of DNA to include synthetic parts.

Just because you put metal parts in your body doesn't make your DNA party synthetic.

The machine is also doing this on an immense scale, the ENTIRE Universe.

It just sounds to far fetched. It is a total en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina.

:blink:Did you just call the changing of DNA structure on a large scale a "Deus ex machina"? Wow...

Yes.

Its not just that, its the whole scene with the Space Kid. It comes out nowhere, there is no foreshadowing at all.

I really would've rather the Space Kid never existing and only the control/destory opinions being there, at least that was foreshadowed.

Modifié par Hydralisk, 11 mai 2012 - 08:33 .

[Chashan]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

There are a million topics on this, all of them disputing everything you wrote.

If you were to numerically weigh the entirety of threads discussing this topic on this board alone, you're flat-out wrong with that statement.

Which is due to the fact that the three coloured pills offered in the "finale" are presented as vaguely as they are. Seeing in them the dawn of an intragalactic utopic paradise is just as valid as thinking of them as the ultimate doomsday coming to pass- all thanks to Shepard pushing a button of certain color.
Elaborating on the reasons for being convinced of either one of those extremes or anything in between to me seems to be a healthier approach to this than to have headbutting contests about which one is right or not. It is up to Bioware to clear that up sufficiently in their upcoming director's cut*. I can see some merits in both positions, yet if there weren't a significant problem with the conclusion's presentation, the Cut wouldn't be in the works, now would it.

And just to have my random opinion thrown in: I would totally swallow the "green" pill if it were offered to me in the following way:
www.youtube.com/watch

*PS: Referring to the "Extended" cut there, just to be clear. I do prefer that term, however.

Modifié par Chashan, 11 mai 2012 - 05:41 .

[kumquats]

You have to explain the problem again.
Do you feel like synthetic organic beings are not fitting for a Sci-Fi setting or that something like the Crucible couldn't possible change the DNA structure of the whole universe?

[fchopin]

Hydralisk wrote...

The ending of ME3 does not make sense.

Do not worry my friend, Bioware is making an EC to fix all the problems and there will be no starvation and no getting stuck away from home and Joker will be explained.
 
So please relax and wait for EC.

[Eire Icon]

This should be in the spoiler section

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Hydralisk wrote...

The ending of ME3 does not make sense.

The "Green" ending cannot happen, it is impossible, it stops being a
sci-fi game with lore that is pretty consistent and turns into a fantasy
game.

The endings are also very grim no matter what you pick when you put a
little though into it. Everyone is trapped on earth because all the
Mass Relays were destoryed. The Reapers have destroyed much of Earth
which was already a dump because of overpopulation, so feeding everyone
is impossible, many are going to die from starvation (also
Turians/Quarians are unable to digest anything that can be grown on
Earth). Do to the food shortage, wars are going to occur between the
different races (Krogans will kill everyone if you cured them), causing
even more bloodshed... basically everyone who is important to the plot
is going to die from either starvation or a civil war...

Also! where the **** was Joker going?

I could go into even more detail with more QQ'n... but I won't.
Overall, Mass Effect was one of my favorite trilogies until the last 5
minutes...<3

Oh we understand why you dislike the ending, the problem is we just dont care, just because we dont care doesnt mean that we dont understand.

[wellsoul2]

The Green ending works if everyone is infected with nano machines.
Everyone is bionic then and you get energy from the sun.
Shepard is already more than halfway there.

[Hydralisk]

kumquats wrote...

You have to explain the problem again.
Do you feel like synthetic organic beings are not fitting for a Sci-Fi setting or that something like the Crucible couldn't possible change the DNA structure of the whole universe?

How exactly the crucible does it isn't explained, it just comes out of no where with no explanination, it seems like "space magic". I hope the EC explains everything so things like this don't bother me so much.

[Hydralisk]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...

The ending of ME3 does not make sense.

The "Green" ending cannot happen, it is impossible, it stops being a
sci-fi game with lore that is pretty consistent and turns into a fantasy
game.

The endings are also very grim no matter what you pick when you put a
little though into it. Everyone is trapped on earth because all the
Mass Relays were destoryed. The Reapers have destroyed much of Earth
which was already a dump because of overpopulation, so feeding everyone
is impossible, many are going to die from starvation (also
Turians/Quarians are unable to digest anything that can be grown on
Earth). Do to the food shortage, wars are going to occur between the
different races (Krogans will kill everyone if you cured them), causing
even more bloodshed... basically everyone who is important to the plot
is going to die from either starvation or a civil war...

Also! where the **** was Joker going?

I could go into even more detail with more QQ'n... but I won't.
Overall, Mass Effect was one of my favorite trilogies until the last 5
minutes...<3

Oh we understand why you dislike the ending, the problem is we just dont care, just because we dont care doesnt mean that we dont understand.

Who is this "we". Please speak for yourself, not a whole community.

[JBONE27]

Hydralisk wrote...

The ending of ME3 does not make sense.

The "Green" ending cannot happen, it is impossible, it stops being a
sci-fi game with lore that is pretty consistent and turns into a fantasy
game.

The endings are also very grim no matter what you pick when you put a
little though into it. Everyone is trapped on earth because all the
Mass Relays were destoryed. The Reapers have destroyed much of Earth
which was already a dump because of overpopulation, so feeding everyone
is impossible, many are going to die from starvation (also
Turians/Quarians are unable to digest anything that can be grown on
Earth). Do to the food shortage, wars are going to occur between the
different races (Krogans will kill everyone if you cured them), causing
even more bloodshed... basically everyone who is important to the plot
is going to die from either starvation or a civil war...

Also! where the **** was Joker going?

I could go into even more detail with more QQ'n... but I won't.
Overall, Mass Effect was one of my favorite trilogies until the last 5
minutes...<3

I think you're overlooking a few things, but still I do agree with you.