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[frylock23]

Ruben Huertas wrote...

Do you you would have done?
Contactais with Bioware. They say nothing for days.
Do You leave to play forever?
Contact and in that email address. Confirmed I'm banned

You know what? You spent the credits. You got an advantage from the cheat even if you didn't do it. You should not have spent the credits. You should have continued to contact BioWare every day, maybe more than once a day until it got resolved.

Anecdote to illustrate:

My husband was a civilian contractor at a military base. He made a very, very small salary. Someone at payroll messed up big time and deposited 65K into our bank account and then did it again three days later for a total of 125K ($125,000). We were extremely poor. We could have used that money so much, but it wasn't ours, so we reported the error.

What do you think would have happened had we spent it?

All fine and dandy right? They would have laughed it off, right?

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA

No. They would have made us pay it back. Duh!

This is the same type of thing.

[MetalHeadDev]

I got banned for going "HEY THIS IS RIGGED? COOL ILL STAY ZLOLOLOL....in your own language - idiota

[KiraTsukasa]

xtorma wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Maybe he didn't cheat. But he took advantage of a cheat of his own free will. That's the same as saying he didn't rob the bank, he only drove the getaway car.

Not a good analogy.

Why not? Still a minor role in the offense, still gets the same punishment as the guy with the gun, so to speak. By spending 6 million credits that he KNEW he shouldn't have had, he became an accomplice to the cheat, and deserves the punishment he got.

And if he's let off the hook, then it sets precidence for anyone to claim that they "didn't know" and also be let off.

Because Ruben is guilty of nothing until he spent the first credit, whereas the robber and driver were guilty the moment they conspired to rob the bank.

He should not be let off the hook though, I may not agree with the severity of the punishment, but I don't have enough details to determine if it was warrented. So i accept that bioware made the right decision, and if they didn't I would hope the appeals process will flesh it out.

No, nobody is guilty for anything until they actually do it. Two people walking down the street and one guy says "Hey, I should rob a bank" he's not going to be arrested for robbing a bank. In this case, he spent credits he KNEW he shouldn't have (assuming the part of messaging BioWare is true), thus he is guilty of glitch/cheat exploitation.

[samb]

Pekkan wrote...

It's pretty simple, if you are not totally demented.

"I have 6 million credits from that hacked game that I'm not supposed to use. I buy with just the money from legitimate games, but as soon as I hit 6 million, or slightly before that, I stop buying any more packs. 6 million credits is the new 0 credits for me."

rather judgmental are we?
Well that is a bit easier said than done. I mean just having that kind of money "burns a hole in your pocket".  If we were given stolen goods, we could report it and hand it in on the spot. It another thing if the authorities just let you keep it and then arrest you later.  He was banned not for spending money, but for having it in the first place. 
What if he was trying To do as you say but accidentally spent more?  Then he deserves what happened to him?

Oh and "demented" is the medical term for problems with memory, your granmother prolly has it.  I think you were trying to say "retarded". 

[Terry07]

I'm surprised you r able to post in the bioware forums with this account if BW indeed has banned u from the game. Permanently. Unless u already bought me3 and registered it to go on the forum again.

[seawolfy]

Terry07 wrote...

I'm surprised you r able to post in the bioware forums with this account if BW indeed has banned u from the game. Permanently. Unless u already bought me3 and registered it to go on the forum again.

Like he said 

[Ruben Huertas]

Terry07 wrote...

I'm surprised you r able to post in the bioware forums with this account if BW indeed has banned u from the game. Permanently. Unless u already bought me3 and registered it to go on the forum again.

its the same account

[Shock n Awe]

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

Ruben Huertas wrote...

I saw the credits in the store, not in the game...

Like I tell my kid you didn't "find" anything, when he "found" an iPod. Ruben if you spent those found credits your guilty and get over it. You should have made a scene in the forums or EA support. To paraphrase Garrus: If you yell loudly enough about something, eventually someone is going to come over and see what all the fuss is about.

Holy **** at the number of idiots disregarding his multiple posts saying he contacted EA support about it and got nothing in return for days before spending the credits.

It's ****ing inane.

[Chrome tater tot]

Man, people abusing the OP are just wrong. Act like you would turn in a million bucks you came upon in real life. Bull. You would do what this guy did. That said, no one here can help you, sir.

[John123453242]

QQ for the cheaters!

[Lagrad Gribble]

Isn't there a way to appeal your ban?

[KiraTsukasa]

Terry07 wrote...

I'm surprised you r able to post in the bioware forums with this account if BW indeed has banned u from the game. Permanently. Unless u already bought me3 and registered it to go on the forum again.

Being banned from the game and being banned on the forums are two separate things. It even says somewhere (I think it was the Terms of Service) that if you are banned on the forums, it won't affect your access to games and content that you've purchased on the site. It's pretty safe to assume that it works both ways.

[Master Xanthan]

Shock n Awe wrote...

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

Ruben Huertas wrote...

I saw the credits in the store, not in the game...

Like I tell my kid you didn't "find" anything, when he "found" an iPod. Ruben if you spent those found credits your guilty and get over it. You should have made a scene in the forums or EA support. To paraphrase Garrus: If you yell loudly enough about something, eventually someone is going to come over and see what all the fuss is about.

Holy **** at the number of idiots disregarding his multiple posts saying he contacted EA support about it and got nothing in return for days before spending the credits.

It's ****ing inane.

I know right? If the dude contacted EA/Bioware and they did nothing about it then there's nothing the OP can do about having the 6 million credits other than being stuck with 6 million credits forever.

[sTrYkZ1LLa]

What's so inane about pointing out spending what's not yours is wrong. I'm sorry if he couldn't resist not spending the hacked credits even if he didn't get a response you think he was right to say o well there mine now? He could have went on about his business documenting his "problem" and spent only what he earned. Whatever you can't defend his actions, if you can lets hear it.

[assteepee]

Honestly if I was really new at the game, didn't know how a lot of **** works, never browsed the forums and such, I wouldn't have figured out there were any problems. That said it doesn't sound like this was his case and it definitely opens up the issue of anyone saying "they didn't know" if they let him off the hook

Modifié par assteepee, 11 mai 2012 - 06:13 .

[afmn]

@Ruben, good luck solving this mate, any kind of ban is extreme for something you didn't do, even if you spent it. and i would like to thank you for bringing this to light.

The fault here lies with EA/BW. If the game wasn't so easily modded this wouldn't have happened. i completely understand an account rollback, that's reasonable and makes sense. but banning someone for being in a glitched game and then using the credits after he reported it is extreme.

On a final note, what chrome tater said is true. None us are saints so get off your high pedestools.

[Master Xanthan]

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

What's so inane about pointing out spending what's not yours is wrong. I'm sorry if he couldn't resist not spending the hacked credits even if he didn't get a response you think he was right to say o well there mine now? He could have went on about his business documenting his "problem" and spent only what he earned. Whatever you can't defend his actions, if you can lets hear it.

It depends on how long he waited. If he waited 2 weeks to a month, then honestly I wouldn't blame him for spending it. Then again if I had the same situation the OP was in, I would never spend those, but thats just me. All I'm saying is I'm willing to give the OP the benefit of the doubt. Plus I've heard EA's customer support is awful so I wouldn't be surprised if they took a while to respond.

[samb]

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

Like I tell my kid you didn't "find" anything, when he "found" an iPod. Ruben if you spent those found credits your guilty and get over it. You should have made a scene in the forums or EA support. To paraphrase Garrus: If you yell loudly enough about something, eventually someone is going to come over and see what all the fuss is about.

That is a stupid analogy. Your kid stole an iPod because he stole an iPod. So it's not stealing if he never listen to music on it?  
OP was found guilty of cheating because he made 6 million credits in a short amount of time. Not because he spent it.  You really think BW would take the time to see if he spent it or not or just ran a program and auto banned accounts that showed up?  You really think they look that closely to each case?  This isn't the supreme court here.
He contacted BW about what to do about the credits and didn't get any response. In fact, I think it was better for him to spend the credits since he was going to banned anyway. At least he got to play with some cool toys before it all ended. 

[Master Xanthan]

samb wrote...

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

Like I tell my kid you didn't "find" anything, when he "found" an iPod. Ruben if you spent those found credits your guilty and get over it. You should have made a scene in the forums or EA support. To paraphrase Garrus: If you yell loudly enough about something, eventually someone is going to come over and see what all the fuss is about.

That is a stupid analogy. Your kid stole an iPod because he stole an iPod. So it's not stealing if he never listen to music on it?  
OP was found guilty of cheating because he made 6 million credits in a short amount of time. Not because he spent it.  You really think BW would take the time to see if he spent it or not or just ran a program and auto banned accounts that showed up?  You really think they look that closely to each case?  This isn't the supreme court here.
He contacted BW about what to do about the credits and didn't get any response. In fact, I think it was better for him to spend the credits since he was going to banned anyway. At least he got to play with some cool toys before it all ended. 

If you leave before a game ends, do you lose all the credits you made in that match? 

[sTrYkZ1LLa]

That makes sense, all I'm saying to anyone in the future is cover your ***. So they won't ban you. Get witness, send emails, spam forums, pm moderators, whatever it takes to protect yourself.

[samb]

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

What's so inane about pointing out spending what's not yours is wrong. I'm sorry if he couldn't resist not spending the hacked credits even if he didn't get a response you think he was right to say o well there mine now? He could have went on about his business documenting his "problem" and spent only what he earned. Whatever you can't defend his actions, if you can lets hear it.

That is retarded. 
You are guilty of stealing when you take something that isn't yours, not when you use that stolen item. 

What is really inane about your logic is that I am only guilty of stealing if I use the money I stole?  So I can rob your grandmother and be caught with her purse but only be found guilty if I spent it?  Gosh I'll keep that in mind once the statue of limitations runs out next time. 

[Poison_Berrie]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

Maybe he didn't cheat. But he took advantage of a cheat of his own free will. That's the same as saying he didn't rob the bank, he only drove the getaway car.

More like he found some money that turns out to be stolen. He reports it to the police who don't bother to respond, but later put in him jail for stealing it once he starts spending it. 

Is he wrong to spend it. Well yes if in doubt whether the money is legit than you shouldn't, but should he be treated like he is the cheater, no. And shouldn't their own lethargic reaction counter into his punishment?

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 11 mai 2012 - 06:33 .

[ryoldschool]

samb wrote...

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

What's so inane about pointing out spending what's not yours is wrong. I'm sorry if he couldn't resist not spending the hacked credits even if he didn't get a response you think he was right to say o well there mine now? He could have went on about his business documenting his "problem" and spent only what he earned. Whatever you can't defend his actions, if you can lets hear it.

That is retarded. 
You are guilty of stealing when you take something that isn't yours, not when you use that stolen item. 

What is really inane about your logic is that I am only guilty of stealing if I use the money I stole?  So I can rob your grandmother and be caught with her purse but only be found guilty if I spent it?  Gosh I'll keep that in mind once the statue of limitations runs out next time. 

samb: I posted this like 6 hours ago.   6 Million credits is worth about $180 in microsoft points.  OP knew he should not have received them, but decided to spend them anyway.

In legal terms, you CAN go to jail for spending money that ends up in your checking account by some error.  Once they figure out what happened, they make you pay it back.   So, if the OP wants to pay bioware $180 that would make it ok.

[Hellfire257]

Good to see mob mentality at work again.

[Serenade22]

Well I made a new thread about my question, all answers and help are appreciated ^^

http://social.biowar...5144/1#11995228