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Sweet Zeus do I love this thread. Been smiling through four pages. Gotta love that guy. 

I'd like to take one moment to go out on a cereal serious limb to defend William C. Dietz (the writer of ME: Deception). I can't speak for the book in question but general I have liked his work in the past. Legion of the Damned and Shatterpoint (a star wars novel) were enjoyable to read.  


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Because every character becomes laughably incompetent in cutscenes just so Kai Leng can accomplish anything.


I didn't understand when he failed to be shot by four armed soldiers (one of whom considered the greatest living soldier in the galaxy) and especially by Thane when he had him dead to rights. It was like (going full nerd since we were just talking about LOTR in a different thread) the Witch King holding onto Eowyn's neck after kicking her ass, seeing a bird flying off in the distance and letting her go simply because he was distracted for a half second. Didn't make any sense for a trained killer to actually KNOCK A GUY DOWN and then fail to knock him down with a bullet two seconds later. 

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-He's part of some of the most ham-fisted/poorly executed cutscenenes in the game, reason enough.
His death scene alone is so rage inducingly retarded it could cause a stroke (let's not check his body and look away as he stumbles up, grunting)

Modifié par Nauks, 11 mai 2012 - 09:50 .


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I thought Kai Leng was cool in the novels (deception doesn't count)

he was a total tool in the game though. Biowares fault

Modifié par DLClol, 11 mai 2012 - 10:08 .


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because on the bsn it is cool to hate on things. I loved running my omni blade through him. Racist bastard got what was coming.

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The only novel that Kai Leng was in, He was quite cool. A True Racist unlike Ashley.

Cerberus In Mass Effect 3 is just about bad writing. Then again Mass Effect 3 has a lot of bad writing.

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The Protheans wrote...

On the citadel his performance was nothing short of terrible(gets chased away by a few guys)

This.  After the door opened and it was Bailey and not him I was convinced that Bailey was on TIM's payroll, since there was no way Kai Leng would have let them live.  Alas, the reason he survived was much stupider than that: Because Bioware™.

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I don't hate Kai Leng, he's simply a mildly irritating pest. Like a tick.

What I do hate is how every one of the seasoned reaper-killing soldiers on my team seems to go into a coma when he shows up. That includes Shepard. "Hmmm, bullets don't seem to be working on this guy. I know! More bullets!"

Funny how even when Saren shoots himself in the brain, Shepard still tells his/her team to check and make sure he's dead, but Mr. Immune to Bullets goes down with no discernible death blow and Shepard not only turns his/her back but gets nice and comfy in TIM's chair.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

because on the bsn it is cool to hate on things. I loved running my omni blade through him. Racist bastard got what was coming.


Yeah that must be the reason why nearly everyone dislikes a space-ninja sword wielder that is ridiculous in every scene he is in., and completely out of place in the ME Universe. Because it's cool.

I think you just post to annoy people half the time.

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Sodapop VII wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

because on the bsn it is cool to hate on things. I loved running my omni blade through him. Racist bastard got what was coming.


Yeah that must be the reason why nearly everyone dislikes a space-ninja sword wielder that is ridiculous in every scene he is in., and completely out of place in the ME Universe. Because it's cool.

I think you just post to annoy people half the time.


Indeed, Kai Leng's visual style seems more in line with StarCraft or Deus Ex than it does with Mass Effect.

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HyperGlass wrote...

Not to say I like him but aside from the obvious murders he's committed why else do people hate Kai Leng? I thought myself that he was going to be quite a badass villian but in the game.....no. Just no.



Because he was silly.

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Kai Leng is an Author Insert Mary Sue.

Those are ALWAYS horrific.

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He's a douchbag wannabe-ninja. He's the type of trope that tries to act cool and instead it comes off as forced, like he was the geeky kid at the back of the class who greased back his hair, wore a leather jacket and gave girls the "collar-flick-finger-guns" just to seem more impressive. When we all know he's had more swirlies than haircuts to actually take him seriously.

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He's story is static. You can't affect it like you can with other characters. He'll just do his cut scenes despite whatever choices you have made. You don't even get different dialogue options like you do with the Illusive Man.

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ManiacalShen wrote...

tekkaman fear wrote...


Apparently in one of the novels he had to prove how awesome he was so he broke into Andersons apartment and ate his cereal. 


You... you can't be serious.

It was in Deception.

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I've said it before and I'll say it every time this thread pops up, Kai Leng is like the Team Rocket of Mass Effect.

I hate him, I hate his silly cut-scene powers, and I truly wish they had done something, anything better than his presence in the game. Disregarding Deception I get the impression he was an actual competent threat in the books (I've not read them yet), yet he is nothing of the sort in the game. He is poorly written and poorly implemented in gameplay.

If they truly wanted us to be defeated by him on Thessia or anywhere, why not just go for a full cut-scene and not let us fight him in-game? We can crush him in the fight and then lose in the cut-scene because the plot dictates. Why couldn't they come up with a way of him beating Shepard and company in a competent fashion? We've destroyed gunships before in-game (three of them IIRC) so they should have done something unexpected that we couldn't stop.

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HyperGlass wrote...

Not to say I like him but aside from the obvious murders he's committed why else do people hate Kai Leng? I thought myself that he was going to be quite a badass villian but in the game.....no. Just no.


Well, he is more of a menace. His voice, his tone, his presence... even the councilors, powerful people that they are, are scared of Leng. I hate him for being the spineless, slippery bastard who killed Thane and stole Vendetta from Thessia. I don't hate him for any other reason.

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Plus, he stole our cereal... Mistake of an outsider.

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1. Bioware tried too hard to make him look badass.

2. His utterly ridiculous plot armor. Whenever he's in a cutscene, everyone around him suddenly loses about 100 IQ points.

3. His characterization overall is very shallow. We barely know anything about him except HE'S A NINJA!!!!!

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His gunship buddy on Thessia is a bigger threat than horribly space ninja. That sucker can't be killed at all, has an uber powered chain gun and spot light, and does all the hard work. Leng just took my Black Widow shots like a boss and didn't get close at all.

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Because his taunting was the most annoying thing ever, that and the fact he brought a sword and a gunship to a gunfight... he's just a bas**rd

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Sesshaku wrote...

Because he uses blades.....on space......with sunglasses (joking).....i don't know it just felt pretty cheap, like the stereotype of a badass evil minion. Didn't care about him that much though....i hated way more the ending.


Explain how one is capable of being "on space."

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Sousabird wrote...

Because his taunting was the most annoying thing ever, that and the fact he brought a sword and a gunship to a gunfight... he's just a bas**rd


And you should be able to shoot that gunship out of the sky, spotlight or no spotlight especially if you have a Widow or Black-Widow Sniper rifle.  Read the codex on those bad boys.  Those ARE heavy weapons.

-Polaris

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Ninja with cartoon nemesis traits protected with plot armor killer of thane.
Hilarious email spooff.

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Because he ate my freaking cereal man.