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#76
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Sajji wrote...

From what I hear its getting two or three new areas with more bosses...they said somewhere midgame so probably after Blighttown. More areas, more scattered npcs, New enemy types and more loot, and the aforementioned bosses. Multiplayer is getting tweaks but it should be the same: other players on server appear as ghosts, leave messages for others, dimension raids and summons to the world to help...if you so choose. I'm getting X Box Live and I'm gonna play mp after I beat it once.

I have nothing but good to say about it. After enjoying TW2 I put this in and didn't know if I'd like it or not. I love it. I adore the challenge, although TW2 was also a challenge, albeit not as much so, but it geared me up and conditioned me. After 12 hours I've died at least 30 times, but never cheaply. It's trial and error and its soooo satisfying when you make progress. I also like how I can almost never rest easy...potential death is around every corner and its so reinvigorating, to say the least. I'm in pursuit of better loot and I'm going to go back and farm souls and Humanity in a little. Also taking notes on where the super high levels are as I suspect they are guarding some bigtime goodies, and will obtain later.

The AI is smart. Very smart...best I've seen in a while.


I thought Demon's Souls was harder personally. But Dark Souls is definitely the better game.

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I never had the pleasure of playing Demon's Souls, although i do want to watch a let's play of it sometime.

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If you have both a console and a high end PC, would you pick PC over console? I do that for certain games, but overall I feel guilty buying PC games since it makes me feel like I bought a PS3 for nothing.

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I want to play this(most likely will not mind you) to judge for myself if a poor combat system is why the game is deemed a "challenge".From what I have seen the combat looks unresponsive and clunky,almost second rate.Mind you the fact it is a straight console port is more likely the reason I will not buy.My platform is not second rate and should not be treated as such.Why developers treat the PC like the lowest common denominator is appauling,in reality it's the other way around.

Modifié par kingtigernz, 15 mai 2012 - 04:14 .


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Tirigon wrote...

termokanden wrote...

We need developers that actually take advantage of the PC platform


The Witcher 2.

CDP did a great job with the PC version and the ported Xbox version.That is what I want to see,optimization for each platform.I just wish other developers would care as much about the different platforms and what the customers on that platform expect.

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kingtigernz wrote...

I want to play this(most likely will not mind you) to judge for myself if a poor combat system is why the game is deemed a "challenge".From what I have seen the combat looks unresponsive and clunky,almost second rate.Mind you the fact it is a straight console port is more likely the reason I will not buy.My platform is not second rate and should not be treated as such.Why developers treat the PC like the lowest common denominator is appauling,in reality it's the other way around.


It's only unresponsive when you have zero stamina. As to be expected. The stamina bar isn't there to be cute and pretty.

Modifié par Sajji, 15 mai 2012 - 04:33 .


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Of course, if you don't like grinding and non-cupcake opponents, its not for you, either.

The high res pretty cutscenes offered by other games may be more appropriate.

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Sajji wrote...

Of course, if you don't like grinding and non-cupcake opponents, its not for you, either.


Can you elaborate on the "grinding" part?

Do you mean there are a lot of boring quests, like kill 10 rats in some NPC's basement, or deliver a package to someone, etc.?

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naughty99 wrote...

Can you elaborate on the "grinding" part?

Do you mean there are a lot of boring quests, like kill 10 rats in some NPC's basement, or deliver a package to someone, etc.?


Nothing of that sort. The Grinding in Dark Souls isn't derived from quests. Souls are the currency by which your character levels up, which is only attainable by killing monsters/bosses - typical RPG fair. Your goal is to continually move through the bosses of the different areas. Depending on your skill/build/confidence, you won't ever have to play with grinding in mind (though you can if you choose). My first playthrough, the only hardcore grinding I ever did was to obtain enough souls to upgrade my weapons initially, which wasn't even necessary.

In your typical MMO, grinding is merely a generic pattern by which your character continually earns XP. Grinding in Dark Souls is substantially more interesting since it's not designed only with leveling up, but also to become familiar with your enemies' tactics and practice different strategies to make it to that all-important boss encounter.

Modifié par Il Divo, 15 mai 2012 - 05:29 .


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You dont have to grind in Dark Souls.
If you are good with controller you can complete the game without leveling yourself up.
Or just play and spend no extra souls are needed.

If you want to go for Platinum trophy and get every spell/weapon it will feel a bit grindy, but not as close as any MMORPG

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http://m.youtube.com...h?v=Ach_m3-cKVg


Gamespot review.

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kingtigernz wrote...

I want to play this(most likely will not mind you) to judge for myself if a poor combat system is why the game is deemed a "challenge".From what I have seen the combat looks unresponsive and clunky,almost second rate.Mind you the fact it is a straight console port is more likely the reason I will not buy.My platform is not second rate and should not be treated as such.Why developers treat the PC like the lowest common denominator is appauling,in reality it's the other way around.


The combat system is the best part of the game. A little slow paced, but fluid and smooth all the way(provided you haven't run out of stamina). Weapons actually have weight and impact to them(the difference in swing speed between a Greatsword and a Dagger is substantial and so is the knockback). You can wield all weapons one handed(doubles the strength requirement) or two handed(increases damage output). Far superior to any other ARPG out there(mind you: I don't think it will work well with keyboard+mouse, so you better buy a controller).

Modifié par WarlordXVII, 15 mai 2012 - 07:12 .


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There is absolutely zero need to grind in Dark Souls, plain and simple. Especially after the new patch that basically doubled your soul gain, and humanity. Even before that, still not needed.Currently you'll be hard pressed to not get to lvl 80 at your first playthrough.

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Theres no need, unless you want to get at a higher level before tackling other areas.

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jesuno wrote...

The creators said that minimal effort would be put into implementing the k+m, and that they recommend using a gamepad.

Source


Well, that certainly did a fine job at extinguishing any interest I might have had for that title...

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Haplose wrote...

jesuno wrote...

The creators said that minimal effort would be put into implementing the k+m, and that they recommend using a gamepad.

Source


Well, that certainly did a fine job at extinguishing any interest I might have had for that title...


Sorry :(, I was looking forward to the PC version as well.

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Sajji wrote...

Theres no need, unless you want to get at a higher level before tackling other areas.


Good to know.

In most games, I usually enjoy the lower level gameplay the most, when everything is dangerous, so I often install mods that slow down the leveling process. Certainly I have never had any interest in "power leveling" or collecting OP equipment.

When you become too powerful in a game and everything is easy, the game becomes boring IMO.

I'll have to wait and see on this one. I've been hoping for a PC port for some time, but I'm not getting it if GFWL is incorporated.

Modifié par naughty99, 15 mai 2012 - 11:48 .


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naughty99 wrote...

Sajji wrote...

Theres no need, unless you want to get at a higher level before tackling other areas.


Good to know.

In most games, I usually enjoy the lower level gameplay the most, when everything is dangerous, so I often install mods that slow down the leveling process. Certainly I have never had any interest in "power leveling" or collecting OP equipment.

When you become too powerful in a game and everything is easy, the game becomes boring IMO.

I'll have to wait and see on this one. I've been hoping for a PC port for some time, but I'm not getting it if GFWL is incorporated.


I like early levels, too...mainly because its the core of character building and you still perceive this vast potential of where you want to be. You would not have to worry about not being able to find challenge at any given point. It's an absolute given if youre an explorer you'll run into level 40's and 50's at level 2 or 3...you will not survive. The thing is with this game is that if you get hit, you'll see a lot of health disappear. And if you leave yourself open, the better AI will counter and you'll die from their critical hit, and if not from the stab itself, most certainly from bleeding damage.

I've found exploration absolutely exhilerating. In most games I have confidence and knowledge that whatever I come across can be managable, at least. But you never know in this game. Constantly you'll come across new enemies and situations...and then when you LEAST expect it, youll die from a booby trap or you'll round a corner and get rammed into a wall or sandwiched, or picked up and killed very violently and grotesquely (eaten, knawed).

Did you watch the Gamespot review I posted?

When this game grabs you, it pulls you in and there is no going back. If you like true, legitimate challenge, it will be a welcome refreshment.

Modifié par Sajji, 16 mai 2012 - 03:25 .


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Definitely getting it. I've always wanted this game, but I don't have a console.

I had to settle for Skyrim. :(

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 I support this thread. Dark Souls is a masterpiece.

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Uhm, lemme think about it...nope.

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I've been eagerly awaiting this game, but GFWL reduces the value tremendously IMO.

I'll have to wait to buy it when the price drops to around $10 or less.

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jesuno wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

jesuno wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

jesuno wrote...

GFWL, limited keyboard and mouse, crap textures, and probably zero change of mods or support? Nope.


Wait what do you mean by limited keyboard and mouse?


The creators said that minimal effort would be put into implementing the k+m, and that they recommend using a gamepad.

Source


That is ****ing stupid.


The
bad thing is that the headlines will read "PC gamers do not support
good games" instead of "PC gamers do not support bad ports."

Well, I agree. This IS ****ing stupid! And the outcome will be, as always, a bad reputation as said above.

I had hopes to play this title but incoming news gather like a storm to sink that ship before it sail.
DRM, lack of support, porting WITH known bugs (no intention to correct/patch 'em), low res textures - just straight up port. It maybe wouldnt be bad if not for my certainty that the porting will be lost in translation - meaning we will encounter more bugs and glitches...

That is not how you wanna expand to other platform.

You want to appeal to the part of gamers that were dying to play your game on their platform of choice. And then you throw 'em some leftovers and wait for the reaction... and then they will **** about how ungrateful gamers are, they were asking for this, now they dont like it? Oh the horror, the injustice, the entitlement!

Motherfu.....

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I have no problem with DRM and I don't mind the controls, UI, graphics settings, etc., not being 100% optimized for PC. I do hope it has at a minimum the ability to remap keybindings, because I play with a number pad.

My main problem is that it's very complicated to install GFWL games, because despite already being logged in to your Steam account, you have to make several new accounts for hotmail, microsoft gamer something or other, etc. If I will need go through all that hassle I'll just wait until it's on sale very cheap.

I don't mind buying games through Origin or Steam, but who wants to deal with secondary or tertiary levels of registration, making new email accounts you will never use, etc.? 

Modifié par naughty99, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:19 .


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Last i heard, the port is capped at 30FPS. If they can't even be bothered to fix that, then god knows what else they didn't optimize. I'm not going to buy a terrible port just because the devs caved to gamer petitions.