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[KingJason13]

With the direction EA/Bioware have been heading over their last several games, I fully expect the DA3 sh*tstorm to be as large as the DA2 storm AND ME3 storm COMBINED!!!

Am I wrong?

Is there hope?

[Blastback]

Personally, I'm hoping that Bioware has learned from their recent missteps, and avoids making the mistakes they have recently.

[KingJason13]

greengoron89 wrote...

That depends on the quality of the game - it could either be seen as Bioware's comeback game if it's good enough, or it could be strike three if it's as crummy as DA2 and ME3.

I do know that all this talk of DA3 having multiplayer does not bode well - time and resources will be wasted working on that rather than being put into the actual game, likely leading to yet another ramshackle product put out before its time.

Multiplayer!? Say it isn't so...

[LPPrince]

Blastback wrote...

Personally, I'm hoping that Bioware has learned from their recent missteps, and avoids making the mistakes they have recently.

I hope the same, but I don't believe anything will change.

The days of ME1's and DAO's are long gone, and Bioware's new style just isn't my thing.

Skyrim, on the other hand. WHEW. YES. GIMME MOAR.

I was so blown away by it that I might actually give the next Fallout game a chance.

Go Bethesda.

Put it this way-

Bioware's direction- RMS Titanic
Bethesda's direction- RMS Carpathia

My only hope being that a German Submarine doesn't sink Bethesda.

Modifié par LPPrince, 11 mai 2012 - 04:28 .

[MingWolf]

I don't think DA3 will be their biggest backlash, for the simple reason that I don't think it's going to sell nearly as well as it's predecessors after what happened in DA2, which probably drowned out a lot of the hype. I suspect it won't have enough traction for backlashing.

Also, if what I hear is correct, DA3 is set in another Mage vs. Templar setting. If you've played DA2, you can make this as you will, but personally, I found it a little on the edge of uninteresting and distasteful. The possible inclusion of multiplayer into DA3 also gives me the impression that, like DA2, this game is trying to be something it wasn't meant to be.

[eroeru]

If they keep making games with the same level of thought into devising and conceptualizing both the specific and general Game, they'll fail once more.

[Jestina]

Seeing what multi-player has turned ME into, I don't have high hopes for DA3. Actually you forgot to add the MMO to the list of bombs.

I would say most of the blame is with EA though. EA's market is the casual audience and this is what Bioware has been shifted towards. The problem is that Bioware's fanbase was built on solid, mainly single player RPG's and they've been chasing them off in droves with the recent products.

[stysiaq]

I won't rage if DA3 will be crappy, because DA2 pretty much lowered my expectations to the minimum. If it will however combine the things DA:O did right (like the characters, dark setting or multiple player origins) with the things DA2 did right (classes are well balanced, can't think of anything else) I'll give it a shot

[KingJason13]

greengoron89 wrote...

KingJason13 wrote...

Multiplayer!? Say it isn't so...

'Fraid so.

You're right... It's going to be more painful than I expected!

[The Jackal]

If DA3 doesn't go as expected you can expect alot of gamers frustrate red and mad. I personally don't think they should have changed anything from the orgins. If swtor base dies down and they need produce another game. People will have to be highly convinced.

[Eternal Phoenix]

LPPrince wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Personally, I'm hoping that Bioware has learned from their recent missteps, and avoids making the mistakes they have recently.

I hope the same, but I don't believe anything will change.

The days of ME1's and DAO's are long gone, and Bioware's new style just isn't my thing.

Skyrim, on the other hand. WHEW. YES. GIMME MOAR.

I was so blown away by it that I might actually give the next Fallout game a chance.

Go Bethesda.

Put it this way-

Bioware's direction- RMS Titanic
Bethesda's direction- RMS Carpathia

My only hope being that a German Submarine doesn't sink Bethesda.

So Skyrim's one ending, almost linear plot, lack of consequences and the ability to master everything and every guild in one playthrough was a good thing? Skyrim doesn't represent a traditional RPG anymore than Dragon Age 2 does. Both games are action-RPG's which have strived from their roots to appeal to the casual crowd.

The Witcher 2 and Dark Souls however are both recent RPG's which feel like traditional RPG's and yet unique and innovative in gameplay at the same time. They have the essence of a traditional RPG and the combat of an action RPG.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 11 mai 2012 - 04:47 .

[sickpixie]

I doubt it, unless they go back on or fail to deliver what they've been saying about adding more noncombat gameplay and focusing less on fights and more on encounters where positioning and thoughtfulness matters. Those are two big appeasements.

[Eternal Phoenix]

KingJason13 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

KingJason13 wrote...

Multiplayer!? Say it isn't so...

'Fraid so.

You're right... It's going to be more painful than I expected!

We don't even know how this multiplayer is going to function though. Baldur's Gate had multiplayer and so did Neverwinter Nights but it was campaign multiplayer. That article states the multiplayer was reportedly seen was some sort of arena where players could team up to fight against monsters and AI humans. So long as the single player is as long as the past two games were and DA3 doesn't have the fatal flaws of DA2 then I couldn't care if they include the optional multiplayer or not.

And I mean if that's the only multiplayer mode then what's the problem? Multiplayer would then allow players to fight alongside other players and form their own teams with their own strategies and classes. The multiplayer would have an emphasis on team-work. Meanwhile single player remains untouched and is the focus.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 11 mai 2012 - 04:53 .

[Eurypterid]

The outcry/backlash seems to get worse with every release (While some of it is valid criticism, I personally think much of it is hyperbolic). So yeah, I think it will probably be ugly. Multiplayer won't bother me as long as it has no influence on the single player portion.

[Vez04]

If BioWare really want me to come back to the DA franchise again, they will better have to bring back pretty much awhole ton of features DA: O had, and also do something spectacular that will shock all with ''**** yes!'' this is how DA2 should have being/looked, feeling.

Else if that dosent happend, the franchise i couldent care less about anymore.

Modifié par Vez04, 11 mai 2012 - 05:54 .

[LPPrince]

Elton John is dead wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Personally, I'm hoping that Bioware has learned from their recent missteps, and avoids making the mistakes they have recently.

I hope the same, but I don't believe anything will change.

The days of ME1's and DAO's are long gone, and Bioware's new style just isn't my thing.

Skyrim, on the other hand. WHEW. YES. GIMME MOAR.

I was so blown away by it that I might actually give the next Fallout game a chance.

Go Bethesda.

Put it this way-

Bioware's direction- RMS Titanic
Bethesda's direction- RMS Carpathia

My only hope being that a German Submarine doesn't sink Bethesda.

So Skyrim's one ending, almost linear plot, lack of consequences and the ability to master everything and every guild in one playthrough was a good thing? Skyrim doesn't represent a traditional RPG anymore than Dragon Age 2 does. Both games are action-RPG's which have strived from their roots to appeal to the casual crowd.

The Witcher 2 and Dark Souls however are both recent RPG's which feel like traditional RPG's and yet unique and innovative in gameplay at the same time. They have the essence of a traditional RPG and the combat of an action RPG.

I enjoyed Skyrim tremendously.

I did not enjoy Dragon Age 2 tremendously.

That's the short of it.

[The Jackal]

It will be the perfect storm if D3 fails. I really do hope it doesn't fail. But with DA2 was their first stumble. They should have just made orgins 2, and mass effect 3 is their ending is as bad as people say.

[bEVEsthda]

No, I don't think DA3 will be a big backlash.

[LPPrince]

Yeah, DA2 was the first strike.

ME3 was the second.

All eyes are on the DA team for DA3, which in all honesty should be DAO2 from my standpoint.

Strike three, they're out.

[Russalka]

Possibly. But I imagine the current problems could only empower people to nitpick over every detail if there is no single horrible thing to focus all the hatred towards in the future.

[KingJason13]

Elton John is dead wrote...

KingJason13 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

KingJason13 wrote...

Multiplayer!? Say it isn't so...

'Fraid so.

You're right... It's going to be more painful than I expected!

We don't even know how this multiplayer is going to function though. Baldur's Gate had multiplayer and so did Neverwinter Nights but it was campaign multiplayer. That article states the multiplayer was reportedly seen was some sort of arena where players could team up to fight against monsters and AI humans. So long as the single player is as long as the past two games were and DA3 doesn't have the fatal flaws of DA2 then I couldn't care if they include the optional multiplayer or not.

And I mean if that's the only multiplayer mode then what's the problem? Multiplayer would then allow players to fight alongside other players and form their own teams with their own strategies and classes. The multiplayer would have an emphasis on team-work. Meanwhile single player remains untouched and is the focus.

True. One of my favourite parts of the Baldur's Gate series was co-op'ing during the main campaign...

My problem with MP isn't so much that, however, as it is with the threat of MP cutting into the SP budget... And MP abuse by forcing MP on the SP'ers by tying it into the SP campaign... Sadly, I just can't see that NOT happening.

[atlatl]

Yeah, this will be BioWare's make-or-break game IMHO.
They must be very careful in making promises they can't deliver on.

But I still believe there is hope for DA3 & BioWare.

Modifié par atlatl, 11 mai 2012 - 05:32 .