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Does anyone else think DA3 will create Bioware's biggest backlash to date?


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ipgd wrote...

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Well the Asari are mammals so having a birth canal isn't that unlikely. The fact that there are any aliens that look similar to humans is the suprising thing for me.

Asari have vaginas canonically. They're in the game.


KILL IT WITH FIRE. Oh and EDI has a birth canal as well. Is she a mammal?

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1)  Ves.  You meet her about 5 minutes into the prologue, she's wearing a low cut top, as she walks in the door.  10 seconds later, we get an ass shot, as she turns around, in her impossibly skin-tight pants, and leaves.    Fast forward to Chapter 1.  You can talk to Ves.  What stories does she have to tell you?  Stories about sex of course.  Specifically, one where she talks, in detail,  about her decision to   not suck men's penises for a living.  And that's why she joined the Blue stripes.  Fast Forward to Chapter 2.  You can F**k Ves.   And that event  marks the  end of her significance in the game, as after you bed her, she ceases to have any notable role in the rest of the game's plot. funny, that.

Huh.  I've played both Roche's and Iorveth's path and though Ves is not my favorite character, I didn't see anything like this.

She talks about trying to be a barmaid and various other jobs- she's good at being a soldier, so that's what she's doing.  Nothing objectionable there.  She won't talk to you at all if you flatter her, because she's prickly that way.  You can fight her and again she takes it personally if you try to coddle her.   After the (completely optional) sex scene with her, you say she has no more relevance to the plot?  Did you miss... everything at the end of chapter 2 on Roche's path?

2) Philippa  Eilhart -  Lesbian chick.  Hot as any sorceress in the Witcher 2.  has a huge role in the plot.  But also has a lover, and, obviously, because we men want it, we get to see her  in action *twice*.  Once in a massage scene with another chick, and the second time in a BDSM scene with another chick.  I rest my case.

I won't argue that the lesbian whipping scene is overkill.  I sure didn't need to see it.  But Philippa otherwise is a great character.  You're taking small things you didn't like (or which you think prove some point) and blowing them out of proportion.  I don't even understand why.  What is your point?

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Addai67 wrote...

You're taking small things you didn't like (or which you think prove some point) and blowing them out of proportion.  I don't even understand why.  What is your point?



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Aeowyn wrote...
Apparently so since Theon's is more of a "glance" while Hodor appears full frontal in daylight yelling "Hodor" and Bran tells him to go get dressed. :P


And Hodor's Hodor was actually just a prosthetic!
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ipgd wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Well the Asari are mammals so having a birth canal isn't that unlikely. The fact that there are any aliens that look similar to humans is the suprising thing for me.

Asari have vaginas canonically. They're in the game.

And it looks like a clitoris of sorts?

Penises have already appeared in Mass Effect though, so it's fair!

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

You're taking small things you didn't like (or which you think prove some point) and blowing them out of proportion.  I don't even understand why.  What is your point?



Nothing describes the BSN better than the above, heh.:lol:

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Penises have already appeared in Mass Effect though, so it's fair!


Wait, what?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Penises have already appeared in Mass Effect though, so it's fair!


That's right, Udina is in all three games.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...
Apparently so since Theon's is more of a "glance" while Hodor appears full frontal in daylight yelling "Hodor" and Bran tells him to go get dressed. :P


Wow, I do not remember that scene at all. I don't even remember who Hodor is.

You monster!

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Penises have already appeared in Mass Effect though, so it's fair!


That's right, Udina is in all three games.


Pulling the trigger on that snake.......ah, good stuff. :D

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Maria Caliban wrote...
Penises have already appeared in Mass Effect though, so it's fair!


Until we see Krogan testicles, it will never be fair.

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Seagloom wrote...

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Was about to mention that.

P.S.
Did you bring the snacks?


Indeed. Popcorn, with and without butter, chocolates, and assorted candies. Also soda and booze.


One popcorn with butter and booze and one XL booze with some soda. What? It was a long day.

Oh and something about the "backlash" being fueled by a group who thinks spamming as many threads as possible with how horrible the game is and BioWare are makes their opinion more valid... or something like that.

Modifié par addiction21, 12 mai 2012 - 11:30 .


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Sajji wrote...

Lord of the Rings had worse than those pics.

Is Lord of the Rings dark fantasy?

Somebody could with absolute ease post mutilation and utter death from Skyrim.

Does that make Skyrim dark fantasy?

I brought up the topic of 'dark fantasy' because I had feedback for BioWare. Feedback that could help...albeit my ideas (very good ones) would never be implemented.

BioWare claimed that Dragon Age was 'dark fantasy' a while back while promoting Origins. Origins was an excellent game, but with the seemingly lack of identity Dragon Age has: make it true dark fantasy.

Take a fantasy RPG that has a truly dark atmosphere. Take the concept of that dark atmosphere, and apply it to Dragon Age.

Give Dragon Age a Dark Souls-esque atmosphere. Apply atmosphere-appropriate in-depth characters, plot, romances, themes, sub-themes, and keep the humor to a sadistic macabre minimal. Make romances not about love or passion, but about the ecstacy of an orgasm.

Rich deep characters and story can still be a main focus. Also include good loot and a clean but sophisticated UI.

I would buy that Dragon Age game. I'd praise it all the time. I would also call that dark fantasy.

Take some feeling of atmosphere from Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem as well. Maybe just a hint of that Lovecraft tingle to go with the rest.

But alas...what will be the result: "Arch-mage, the Templars are being meanies. Waaaaaaaaaaahhh!" (Frown-face)


The Lord of The Rings and Skyrim have decapitations but nothing along the lines or rape, killing children who are possessed by demons, racism (TES contains racism between the races but nothing along the lines of where elves are kept in alienages as a result), blood magic or the grotesque of the Darkspawn (excluding DA2).

Dragon Age: Origins did have a dark atmosphere in places like The Deep Roads and The Circle Tower. Ostagar had a dark atmosphere and most of the places in Awakening were dark in atmosphere. It shouldn't be Dark Souls in atmosphere because Dark Souls is set in a world where there is little hope and where demons rule. Dragon Age on the otherhand is set on a world which has seen great wars but at the same time there is always hope and some places of refuge.

And no, making romances about orgasms does not equal dark fantasy. In fact I would question who was behind the game if the romances were just about seeing someone reach their climax. Sounds like something a hormonal teenager would want.

Definition of Dark Fantasy.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 12 mai 2012 - 11:32 .


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Elton John is dead wrote...
And no, making romances about orgasms does not equal dark fantasy. In fact I would question who was behind the game if the romances were just about seeing someone reach their climax. Sounds like something a hormonal teenager would want.


You must not know many teenagers.

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Oh, gosh. I just realized you two actually have BSN groups for yourselves. Wow, just wow. Lol.

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android654 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...
And no, making romances about orgasms does not equal dark fantasy. In fact I would question who was behind the game if the romances were just about seeing someone reach their climax. Sounds like something a hormonal teenager would want.


You must not know many teenagers.


I know plenty enough at collage to know that all they talk about is sex and CoD.

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android654 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...
And no, making romances about orgasms does not equal dark fantasy. In fact I would question who was behind the game if the romances were just about seeing someone reach their climax. Sounds like something a hormonal teenager would want.

You must not know many teenagers.

Pretty sure teenagers want climaxes, both giving and receiving.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
Penises have already appeared in Mass Effect though, so it's fair!

Until we see Krogan testicles, it will never be fair.

Wrex is the best. :mellow:

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 12 mai 2012 - 11:30 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

android654 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...
And no, making romances about orgasms does not equal dark fantasy. In fact I would question who was behind the game if the romances were just about seeing someone reach their climax. Sounds like something a hormonal teenager would want.

You must not know many teenagers.

Pretty sure teenagers want climaxes, both giving and receiving.


Don't know whwere your from, but in the U.S. they're fragile as sh*t, and are more concerned with a  ____friend, and most of them barely know what they're doing. People tend to be more sex obsessed as they get older.

Modifié par android654, 12 mai 2012 - 11:35 .


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Oh, gosh. I just realized you two actually have BSN groups for yourselves. Wow, just wow. Lol.


To be fair, he created it to parody mine.

I did not create mine, someone else did as a fun joke 2 years ago or such. But it made people believe that I have a serious personality cult going on, amassing followers and making them worship me or something.

My natural charisma aside (:P), it had always been a joke, nothing serious.

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android654 wrote...

Don't know whwere your from, but in the U.S. they're fragile as sh*t, and are more concerned with a  ____friend, and most of them barely know what they're doing. People tend to be more sex obsessed as they get older.


You must be from some other US than I'm from.Image IPB

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Alright, I think we're waaay off-topic now, and well into political discussion. Which we don't do on these forums - so let's either bring it back on-topic, or it'll get locked.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

android654 wrote...

Don't know whwere your from, but in the U.S. they're fragile as sh*t, and are more concerned with a  ____friend, and most of them barely know what they're doing. People tend to be more sex obsessed as they get older.


You must be from some other US than I'm from.Image IPB


Take a look at your average 15 year old. They talk a lot of s*it, but the second some girl or guy drops ateention in the slightest, they're a river of tears. The social experiment of that age is more important than just cumming. People learn to separate those two whent hey get a little older.

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John Epler wrote...

Alright, I think we're waaay off-topic now, and well into political discussion. Which we don't do on these forums - so let's either bring it back on-topic, or it'll get locked.


*blinks* where?

Penises? :P

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android654 wrote...

Don't know whwere your from, but in the U.S. they're fragile as sh*t, and are more concerned with a  ____friend, and most of them barely know what they're doing. People tend to be more sex obsessed as they get older.


When I was a teenager, I wanted a girlfriend, didn't know what I was doing, and was emotionally vulnerable... but I was still interested in sex. One does not negate the other.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

John Epler wrote...

Alright, I think we're waaay off-topic now, and well into political discussion. Which we don't do on these forums - so let's either bring it back on-topic, or it'll get locked.


*blinks* where?

Penises? :P


Well politicians are usually dicks.