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[Iakus]

 And this is why I suspect EC will be nothing but the original ending, only louder and slower so we ignorant plebes can "get it" 

But what Bioware soesn't seem to "get" is that if this is goodbye, they need to make it a goodbye we can feel good about.  It should be a leavetaking that makes us want to come back and visit again.  It should be a goodbye that we come away feeling good about, not mourning for.  

The endings we got, I am reminded of the scene in Serenity where Kaylee and Simon are getting ready to "hold the line" against the Reavers so Mal could get the message out.  As they're basically saying their goodbyes, regretting what could have been, Kaylee steels herself, says "To hell with this, I'm gonna live!"  The ending they were faced with was simply unacceptable.  She wanted something better, and was willing to fight for it.

If you're going to make something for yourself, you can go nuts and make whatever you want.  If you're going to make something for general consumption, it's important to make something the genral public will actually want to consume.  Artists who can't sell their work  end up becoming starving artists.

[Stevebo]

I quit reading when I saw "I think my Commander Shepard saved the universe."

after that it was all speculation and trying to make sense of things that just didn't fit the series. Cool that some people "get it" or at least can speculate they do but the ending left me with zero feeling of accomplishment, if anything I felt the ending minimized my entire experience.

[beyondsolo]

The best part of the article was the image of Princess Leia.

[Mev186]

Oh, wait... so we don't "get it"

No, Mr Webb. We get it.

The question is; do you get it ? I seriously doubt it.

[Ecrulis]

Mev186 wrote...

Oh, wait... so we don't "get it"

No, Mr Webb. We get it.

The question is; do you get it ? I seriously doubt it.

Agreed, I dont understand how people do not get that the final 10 minutes of the trilogy betrays everything there is about Mass Effect.

[kiyomizu]

Jenonax wrote...

That's a cheap shot, really.

Return of the King wasn't one long goodbye. Deathly Hallows wasn't. Amber Spyglass wasn't. The last part of a trilogy ties everything together but still has to follow basic narrative structure. The whole thing is not a denoument because guess what, it would be BORING!

Sorry, but this guy needs to go back to Writing 101. I have never heard something so silly from someone who's company is supposed to be leaders in interactive storytelling.

^This.  And it even fails as a 30 hour denoument due to the space magic used for the Normandy crash landing scene at the end. 

[Norrax]

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

Yeah, I've totally seen this coming.
Saying that "The whole ME3 was a giant ending! And it was affected by choices, so nobody lied, and everybody got it different"
Ok, can I get my third part of the trilogy then?

That's just cheap cheating.

this

[Heg28]

CELL55 wrote...

Well yeah, up until Reaper Kid, there was plenty of closure. Heck, you even made post-battle plans with your best friends when you were back on Earth. If the game had just ended with Anderson and you looking out at Earth from the Crucible, it would have been great. They wouldn't need to show an epilogue; we had already talked that out at home base on Earth.

The problem of course, is the Reaper Kid. With that short segment, everything is blown wide open again. Nothing is certain, no one has any idea just what the Nine Hells is going on.

All that closure gets ripped apart, because without the Mass Relays, all of your post battle plans are now impossible. With you dead, all of your post battle plans are now impossible. With one of three colors chosen, the situation has radically changed in a way that we are not shown, and your post battle plans are now irrelevant.

Pretty much this. I had a lot of closure during the game. I liked it a lot more than a 20 - 30 minutes end cinematic showing all consequences of my actions. You were right in the middle of everything happening.

In difference to the quoted post, I wouldn´t deem the ending as a huge failure just now. The ending is just too off. I am certain there will be coming something in the extended cut DLC. If it will be some sort of IT twist or anything else, I don´t know, but there will definitly be something. Just maybe this extended cut will give proper meaning to the ending and make this game series one of the best I´ve ever played, if not the best.

[antares_sublight]

iakus wrote...

 And this is why I suspect EC will be nothing but the original ending, only louder and slower so we ignorant plebes can "get it"

Exactly. The last 10 minutes just confused everything and cheapened the whole series.

[Panthro90]

It’s a goodbye alright. BioWare say goodbye to my money.

[Ecrulis]

Norrax wrote...

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

Yeah, I've totally seen this coming.
Saying that "The whole ME3 was a giant ending! And it was affected by choices, so nobody lied, and everybody got it different"
Ok, can I get my third part of the trilogy then?

That's just cheap cheating.

this

Seriously, just more PR BS as they scurry about damage control because somehow no one had the forsight to say Hey this "ending" may ****** off a huge portion of the fan base.

Even more shocking is the response "you people are just too stupid to understand it.

God, alienating your entire fan base lesson 1: call them all stupid.

[Peranor]

Finally the truth has been revealed to us! Why didn't they just come out and say this from the start?
"Guys, the whole game is the ending doh!"

Someone call BioWare and tell them to stop working on the EC! There is no need for it anymore. We have been provided deeper insight by the overlords. We can now go back to feeding them with our money and shut up!

[xxskyshadowxx]

The more of this stuff I read, the more I realize that the EC DLC is going to be a collossal failure....and in all likelyhood there will be an announcement that BioWare plans to merge with "Our game is GOOD, you just don't understand it!" Lexis Numerique.

[dreamgazer]

ReggarBlane wrote...


Duane Webb: Co-director of Production at BioWare. Franchise Project Manager for Mass Effect.

He is referring to this article.
My Mass Effect 3 Ending Lasted 34 Hours. It Was Wonderful.

I'm not a "pro-ender", in that I feel the last moments of the game needed to be less cryptic and perhaps less interpretive, but I vehemently agree with this. 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 11 mai 2012 - 07:55 .

[Ecrulis]

xxskyshadowxx wrote...

The more of this stuff I read, the more I realize that the EC DLC is going to be a collossal failure....and in all likelyhood there will be an announcement that BioWare plans to merge with "Our game is GOOD, you just don't understand it!" Lexis Numerique.

Exactly the people running the show, never did, still don't understand why everyone is so upset

Bioware we understood you're endings just fine, and we understand them to be nonsensical and retarded.

It seems the people at Bioware are the ones who "don't get it"

[Zered]

Well I didn't touch ME3 for like a month so I was starting to accept things the way they are, but hey! A short visit to the BSN and I want to rage again because one more time someone from bioware reminds me that I'm retarded. Why? Because:
1)I don't get it
2)They don't care what I think because THEY ALREADY HAVE MY MONEY!!!

The worst thing is that I've lost all hope about EC ending...

[revo76]

so he left open citadel for 34 hours ?

Wow.

So if we're not separating final and the rest of the game, then i should say this:

The game is piece of crap, useless thing, i'm sorry for my 70 dollars.

Why ?

Because game was perfect with everything, until the final, last 10-15 minutes, and if we're considering game as whole final, the above is my comment about it.

[Illusive]

anorling wrote...




Finally the truth has been revealed to us! Why didn't they just come out and say this from the start?
"Guys, the whole game is the ending doh!"

Someone call BioWare and tell them to stop working on the EC! There is no need for it anymore. We have been provided deeper insight by the overlords. We can now go back to feeding them with our money and shut up!

So deep and artistic ...  ... I am in awe, Bioware

[SirCroft]

Hey, check out my invisibility cloak! Only smart people can see it!

[hawkens982]

When I saw that article's title, I thought the author finally grew a quad and finished the game after 34 hours of staring at the beam right before Marauder Shields. But after reading the article in its entirety, it also felt like an ME3 ending.

[Ecrulis]

michalooo wrote...

Well I didn't touch ME3 for like a month so I was starting to accept things the way they are, but hey! A short visit to the BSN and I want to rage again because one more time someone from bioware reminds me that I'm retarded. Why? Because:
1)I don't get it
2)They don't care what I think because THEY ALREADY HAVE MY MONEY!!!

The worst thing is that I've lost all hope about EC ending...

Sadly I never really had much hope for the EC to begin with, I fully expect there to be massive handwaving at the NUMEROUS plot holes, followed by bioware further trying to shove synthesis down our throats as the "good choice" because you know if only us poor simpletons understood sythesis wed be worshiping the ground bioware walks on <_<.

[Drake-Shepard]

if the 'whole of ME3 was the ending' then why introduce a new character and concept at the 'very end of the ending game'...and resolve it in 14 lines of dialogue!!

Modifié par Drake-Shepard, 11 mai 2012 - 08:12 .

[TheLostGenius]

It's true. The game is a conclusion that ends the entire story arch.

[Ecrulis]

Drake-Shepard wrote...

if the 'whole of ME3 was the ending' then why introduce a new character and concept at the 'very end of the ending game'...and resolve it in 14 lines of dialogue.

just to add, thus negating everything weve done in the previous games and completely destroying a once great villain in the process.