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[Mesgnk]

Hello my fellow gamers, I've encountered a bit of a problem if you've yet to guess. I just recently (this morning) upgraded my OS to Windows 7 from Vista and am now getting this error. The graphics card in this laptop is indeed integrated and a bit on the older end of the spectrum, however, less than 12 hours ago it was running this game perfectly fine.

So I come to ask you, has anyone else encountered this problem? I've made sure my drivers were up to date and uninstalled and reinstalled several different versions of Direct X to no avail.

Can anyone shed a bit of light on my dilemna.

Modifié par Mesgnk, 09 décembre 2009 - 05:18 .

[Tom Tinari]

Have you upgraded your video card drivers when you put windows 7 on? If so, are the drivers compatible with windows 7?

[JironGhrad]

Be aware, the minimum graphics card requirements for windows 7 aren't published on the box and may be higher than the minimum requirements for Vista (just as they are higher for Vista than for XP)

[Gorath Alpha]

Mesgnk wrote...

... The graphics card in this laptop is indeed integrated and a bit on the older end of the spectrum, however, less than 12 hours ago it was running this game perfectly fine.

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Sorry.  That statement you've written is a definite oxymoron (my italics added).  Either you do not have an IGP, as those are defined, or the game played quite poorly previously!  There is no IGP, NONE at all, that will play any recently released 3D game, even as leniently graphical as DA: O is, "perfectly fine".  That happens to be an absolute fact. 

The FACTUAL minimum is either an X800 Pro (XP) or an X1650 (Vista / Windows 7), for ATI, and a Geforce 6800 Vanilla (XP), or 7600 GT (Vista).  The officially published Radeons are wrong.  There is no onboard chip ever made that can match any of those, nor even the idiotic too-low versions (6600 GT, X1550) in the published official requirements.  

Now, if we agree that you enjoy playing games in severely reduced imagery, at herky-jerky animation speeds, what you have, besides an unsupported "tinker toy" of a video system (assuming you were correct, that the laptop only has IGP), is corrupted files in your Direct3D (here, assuming you have installed Dx9, as required by the game, after the Win7), or in the video driver files, or in the game.  The test for whether a device can perform SM-3 pixel shading functions uses Dx9, not Dx10 or Dx11.  Both ethe native Direct3D for the OS version, PLUS the Dx9 for the game, are required (Dx9 being the "native" final Direct3D for Windows XP). 

The reason for having divergent answers is that there are laptops in which you can switch between the onboard chip (low battery drain, low heat signature), and an actual video card also included, so when you are stationary, attached to your external power supply, and have the laptop placed so that it is getting maximum cooling airflow into and out of its vents, you switch to the real video card.  Direct3D shakes hands with the video card drivers, as well as PhysX, and all interact with the game, so any of the three (four, counting the game itself) can be out of whack and potentially result in the report about no usable video card being present.

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 30 septembre 2010 - 09:34 .

[Mesgnk]

Perhaps my definition of "perfectly fine" differs from your own. I've learned to be quite content playing games on the lowest possible video settings. That being said I did have some frame rate issues when running around particularly crowded areas.



Besides that, all that I can tell you about the card is its name "Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor", it's made by Nvidia, and it comes equipped with a measley 64MBs of memory.



Anyways, I've already tried reinstalling Direct X 9 with no luck. Should I try uninstalling and reinstalling the driver? Or would that just be a generally bad idea.



Thanks for your replies by the way.

[andysdead]

try reloading the driver.

[Mesgnk]

Reloading the driver didn't seem to help. I'm wondering if there exists a way to uninstall Direct X. Does anyone know?

[juvefan78]

Mesgnk wrote...

Besides that, all that I can tell you about the card is its name "Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor", it's made by Nvidia, and it comes equipped with a measley 64MBs of memory.

There's your problem right there. In the device manager, under "Disaplay Adapters,"  it's supposed to read "NVIDIA Geforce <model of card>,"  if you have the proper nvidia drivers installed. "Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor" means you are using Window's generic drivers.

Go here: www.laptopvideo2go.com/drivers. Some people have reported problems with the more recent drivers so you'll just have to see which version works for you.

[StrikeSaber47]

Mesgnk wrote...

Reloading the driver didn't seem to help. I'm wondering if there exists a way to uninstall Direct X. Does anyone know?

I kind have a feeling you are running a dedicated card (albeit a not so good one) but your drivers are very out of whack. Try to upgrade to DOX 185.85 via laptopvideo2go.com. They may not be the latest nVidia offerings but they are the most stable so far as modded laptop drivers go for DA: O at least and ME 1.

[InteruptZero]

Is your computer a desktop or a laptop?

[Forsakerr]

InteruptZero wrote...

Is your computer a desktop or a laptop?

in the first post he said he had a laptop ...

[InteruptZero]

My apologies I will try to pay closer attention next time.  Could we know more about this laptop, for instance the make and model, the type of cpu, how much ram, how large is your hard drive etc.  I have all ready read your description of the video card.  I agree with the earlier comment that the standard vga driver is just the windows default.  The error message "failed to detect..." is a pretty standard error message.  If I knew more about the make and model of laptop that would help me research the problem.

Modifié par InteruptZero, 10 décembre 2009 - 04:52 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Minimum for Windows XP

Video: ATI Radeon X850 256MB or greater (this is clearly wrong)
NVIDIA GeForce "6600 GT" 128MB or greater (and this one is more wrong)

(Note: IMO, the practical choices for the two video cards above should be the Radeon X800 Pro, and the Geforce 6800 GS, at least, for small textures - it will take a Radeon X1650 XT (or X1800 GTO, same thing, almost) for medium or better textures)

Here is the appropriate "above" minimum ranking list, from great to barely acceptable:

- ATI Radeon HD 5900 series
- nVIDIA Geforce GTX 480
- ATI Radeon HD 5800 series
- nVIDIA Geforce GTX 470
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX275 - 280 - 285 - 295 - 460 and 465
- ATI Radeon HD 5700 series
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX260
- ATI Radeon HD 4800 series
- NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
- NVIDIA GeForce 9800 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 8800 series
- ATI Radeon HD 5600 series
- ATI Radeon HD 4700 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 9600 series
- ATI Radeon HD 3800 series
- ATI Radeon HD 4600 series
- ATI Radeon HD 2900 series
- ATI Radeon X1950 series
- ATI Radeon X1900 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 7900 series
- ATI Radeon X1800 series
- ATI Radeon X850 series     ( ATI Official Minimum Card )
- NVIDIA GeForce 7950
- NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2
- ATI Radeon X800 series
- ATI Radeon HD 3690  
- NVIDIA GeForce GTS 240
- NVIDIA GeForce 7800 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS
- NVIDIA GeForce GTS 220, GT 230 
- ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
- ATI Radeon HD 3650  
- NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
- NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra
- ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro 
- NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GS
- NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
- ATI Radeon X1650 XT
- NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
- NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS
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Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 octobre 2010 - 11:00 .

[Mesgnk]

juvefan78 wrote...

Mesgnk wrote...

Besides that, all that I can tell you about the card is its name "Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor", it's made by Nvidia, and it comes equipped with a measley 64MBs of memory.

There's your problem right there. In the device manager, under "Disaplay Adapters,"  it's supposed to read "NVIDIA Geforce ,"  if you have the proper nvidia drivers installed. "Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor" means you are using Window's generic drivers.

Go here: www.laptopvideo2go.com/drivers. Some people have reported problems with the more recent drivers so you'll just have to see which version works for you.

Thanks for your help everyone, this ended up being my problem. Found the name of the card after reverting back to Vista, and from there the drivers were only a quick google away, not to mention a re-upgrade back to Win 7.

[Kurryman]

Im using something called 'Driver Robot', hopefully it will work after i update my video card... Should someone who made the game help us?

[Kurryman]

I have an ATI Radeon 9550/ X1050 series.

[Kurryman]

Ohh, and it has 180mb...

[Kurryman]

Where do u update ur drivers from?..

[JironGhrad]

Kurryman wrote...

I have an ATI Radeon 9550/ X1050 series.

This is not a supported graphics card.  Time to get a new system I'd suggest, as the Radeon 9550s are around 6-7 years old now. In fact, I bought one for my wife, TWO full upgrades ago in 2005. 

[Gorath Alpha]

JironGhrad wrote...

Kurryman wrote...

I have an ATI Radeon 9550/ X1050 series.

This is not a supported graphics card.  Time to get a new system I'd suggest, as the Radeon 9550s are around 6-7 years old now. In fact, I bought one for my wife, TWO full upgrades ago in 2005. 

The Radeon 9600 is that old.  Then, while the Xn00 generation that followed it was current, the market was in some sort of budget mood, and people held on AGP longer than expected.  ATI ran out of 9600 SE models for the partners to build to sell for $40, however, in the meanwhile, their FABs were already moved away from the 150 nm dies.  Rather than create an enitirely new die, they modified the X300 SE die, back to AGP, and named it a 9550, in spoite of it having no series relationship to their 9500. 

Another generation after that, the bottom end of the X1n00 generation was a rather decent card, for business, the X1300.  They needed to sell those for $45 - $50 at the time, and nVIDIA was selling their 7200s cheaply enough for their partners to sell those for $35.  ATI fell back on the same older design (the X300 SE, which was a 9600 in its prior life), calling it the X1050.  That was only four years ago.  At about the same time, the ATI chipsets were moving from an Xpress200 IGP (and Xpress1100), based on the X300, to the Xpress1250, based on the X1300, making the Xpress1250 technically better than the X1050 card, although it was still somewhat slower (I've edited this sentence because I am not quite certain where the Xpress1200 fits copared to the X1300, after all). 

Some people were still holding back from Vista and from PCIe (mostly businesses), and the 9550 wasn't witdrawn from production when the HD 2n00 generation was released, even though there were AGP versions of the 2400 & 2600 available, as there had been of the X1300 and X1600 / 1650.  New 9550s were still being churned out as few as maybe three years ago, along with the X1050s. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 avril 2010 - 10:42 .

[JironGhrad]

They were still making the 9550 3 years ago?! That's tragic. But it sure does explain a lot. Still time to buy a new system though since those are all AGP.

[Gorath Alpha]

JironGhrad wrote...

They were still making the 9550 3 years ago?! That's tragic. But it sure does explain a lot. Still time to buy a new system though since those are all AGP.

There are even some semi-generic brands that appear after the last backlog of product is flushed into the overstocks and surplus markets.  That's where Newegg got so many late-available X1650 Pros last spring (those were worse than the reference card as far as type of VRAM and other specs, but Newegg was selling them for less than $50, down with the HD 3450s that they outperformed).

Gorath
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[Scottlander]

ok same problem ...i have an intergrated video card as well. am i going to have to upgrade to a newer card or is there a way to play

[Gorath Alpha]

Yes you will, and no you cannot. It was on the game box, as a warning. Sorry if it was a spoiled present as a result!

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/128343

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 25 décembre 2009 - 06:20 .

[Slap Chop]

256MB hard drive VGA monitor with 16-color display. How can I play this game?