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[Gorath Alpha]

Slap Chop wrote...

256MB hard drive VGA monitor with 16-color display. How can I play this game?

What?  No way of knowing from that incomplete and erronneous question!  Unless, of course, you are merely a TROLL, trying to upset things.  There have been no Hdds that small, or displays that limited, still in operating condition for the past 8-10 years now.

Basic Hardware Specification Chart (Empty so far)

Processor Manufacturer: AMD / Intel
Processor Name / Type: Athlon 64 / Pentium / C2D / dual core / quad, etc.
Processor Speed:  ?.? Ghz (or AMD Performance Number)
Operating System / Service Pack: WindowsXP with SP #?, Vista ? (Oh, no!)
System RAM: ? ? GBs (MBs, if less than 1024)
Video (GPU) Manufacturer: ATI / Nvidia (only those two are supported, PERIOD)
Video Card Model: (examples) Radeon HD 3650 / Geforce 8600 GT
Video Card Driver Version: Catalyst ?.? / Nforce ??.??
 . . (use the numbers, not the word "latest")
Video Card onboard RAM: ? ? ? MBs
Sound Card Manufacturer:
Sound Card Model:

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Windows XP Minimum Specifications

OS: Windows XP with SP3
CPU: Intel Core 2 Single (or equivalent) running at 1.6Ghz or greater
AMD 64 (or equivalent) running at 2.0Ghz or greater
RAM: 1 GB or more
Video: ATI Radeon X850 256MB or greater (either this is wrong)
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT 128MB or greater (or this one is wrong)
DVD ROM (Physical copy)
20 GB HD space

IMO, the two cards should be the X800 Pro and the 6800 Vanilla (PCIe, with 256 MBs)

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 25 décembre 2009 - 07:57 .

[jujitsubear]

"Failed to detect a supported video card"

I guess my ATI Radeon 300X 128mb video card is not going to work?

[Gorath Alpha]

jujitsubear wrote...

"Failed to detect a supported video card"
I guess my ATI Radeon 300X 128mb video card is not going to work?

The Radeon X300 cards contain six year old silicon technology.  ATI was dividing up its engineers between the Xn00 generation update and the XBox360 GPU; only the X700, X800, and X850 got the newer designs, and it was only an incremental nudge, given that ATI was already so far ahead of nVIDIA with its Radeon 9700 / 9800 cards. 

They chose to use various grades of their 9600 to modify into the lower end X1050 through X600, with the X300 as the very bottom during the normal production life of the Xn00 generation (the X1050 was just the SE version X300, renumbered and put back into production during the X1 generation's production run).  The 9600 did not have the SM3 pixel shader functionality (and the X700 - upward only had the first notch of it).  You really shouldnm't expect much at all from a five year old video card, and that probably goes in spades for whatever old PC that such an old and slow video card is a part of, so to conclude a too-long comment, you are out of luck. 

I also wouldn't think that the PC that card is in could be any kind of  good candidate to upgrade the video card in.

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 27 décembre 2009 - 12:34 .

[Jurriaan]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

jujitsubear wrote...

"Failed to detect a supported video card"
I guess my ATI Radeon 300X 128mb video card is not going to work?

The Radeon X300 cards contain six year old silicon technology.  ATI was dividing up its engineers between the Xn00 generation update and the XBox360 GPU; only the X700, X800, and X850 got the newer designs, and it was only an incremental nudge, given that ATI was already so far ahead of nVIDIA with its Radeon 9700 / 9800 cards. 

They chose to use various grades of their 9600 to modify into the lower end X1050 through X600, with the X300 as the very bottom during the normal production life of the Xn00 generation (the X1050 was just the SE version X300, renumbered and put back into production during the X1 generation's production run).  The 9600 did not have the SM3 pixel shader functionality (and the X700 - upward only had the first notch of it).  You really shouldnm't expect much at all from a five year old video card, and that probably goes in spades for whatever old PC that such an old and slow video card is a part of, so to conclude a too-long comment, you are out of luck. 

I also wouldn't think that the PC that card is in could be any kind of  good candidate to upgrade the video card in.

Gorath
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Having very little knowledge of any of these cards, brands or even the used technology, I'm somewhat forced to ask how well my ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 512MB HyperMemory card on a Acer Aspire 5672WLMi series laptop (Intel Core Duo processor, 1.66GHz, 667 MHz FSB, 2MB L2 cache - all copied from the sticker!) will perform. It's been giving me issues recently and is, according to the DA:O configuration system, outdated/ outdated on drivers. Unfortunately I have been unable to find any sort of update for that card that works on the Windows XP OS. I've gone from a working game, to flickering screens, only to end up with a weird graphical gameplay. For some reason, everything is way darker (not the gamma level, checked that!) then before.

Anyone able to point me in the right direction will be worshipped for the rest of the upcomming year.


Edit:

Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Name / Type: dual core
Processor Speed:  1.66 Ghz
Operating System / Service Pack: Windows XP with SP 3
System RAM: 2 GB
Video (GPU) Manufacturer: ATI
Video Card Model: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 up to 512MB HyperMemory
Video Card Driver Version: I have no idea where to find this, so I'll just give you a list of what I did find!
   ATI Cataclyst Control Center version 1.2.2475.36837
   .NET Runtime version 1.1.4322.2443
   Driverversion 8.31.0.0

Video Card onboard RAM: ?? - I have a card, not onboard?
Sound Card Manufacturer: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Sound Card Model: Absolutely no idea..

Modifié par Jurriaan, 27 décembre 2009 - 01:47 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Jurriaan wrote...

Having very little knowledge of any of these cards, brands or even the used technology, I'm somewhat forced to ask how well my ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 512MB HyperMemory card on a Acer Aspire 5672WLMi series laptop (Intel Core Duo processor, 1.66GHz, 667 MHz FSB, 2MB L2 cache - all copied from the sticker!) will perform. It's been giving me issues recently and is, according to the DA:O configuration system, outdated/ outdated on drivers. Unfortunately I have been unable to find any sort of update for that card that works on the Windows XP OS. I've gone from a working game, to flickering screens, only to end up with a weird graphical gameplay. For some reason, everything is way darker (not the gamma level, checked that!) then before.

Anyone able to point me in the right direction will be worshipped for the rest of the upcomming year.


Edit:

Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Name / Type: dual core
Processor Speed:  1.66 Ghz
Operating System / Service Pack: Windows XP with SP 3
System RAM: 2 GB
Video (GPU) Manufacturer: ATI
Video Card Model: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 up to 512MB HyperMemory
Video Card Driver Version: I have no idea where to find this, so I'll just give you a list of what I did find!
   ATI Cataclyst Control Center version 1.2.2475.36837
   .NET Runtime version 1.1.4322.2443
   Driverversion 8.31.0.0

Video Card onboard RAM: ?? - I have a card, not onboard?
Sound Card Manufacturer: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Sound Card Model: Absolutely no idea..

Everything about that laptop is marginal for this game, especially the video card.  The game will probably "run", but you will have to choose a relatively low screen resultion, and put up with slowness in mob scenes.

ATI was still updating its XP drivers for the X1n00 generation last time I checked (I have an X1950 Pro).  They had begun to support mobile versions a year ago, but I personally would never waste any time with a laptop like yours trying to play a game like this on it.  Laptops, even those with actual internal add-in video cards, just can't receive video upgrades, either.  Sorry to bear the bad tidings. 

Gorath
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[Jurriaan]

Thanks for the quick reply. I reckon it's about time to upgrade or look after a new PC, other then trying to upgrade the laptop. Having no video upgrades is plain aweful :-(.



As for the gaming experience itself, I've had very little trouble with lag, slowgame play or hidious graphic. After the driver upgrade/ reinstall attempts I was only left with a few laptop bootup errors and a rather darker game then before. Darker in the terms of visual perspective that is; as if the gamma level is tuned way down. The flickering is gone, which means the game should actually run semi-well on this machine. I use maxed out graphical settings aswell as the default resolution (I think?).

[broooom]

Hello everyone i am having the same problem......Failed to detect a supported video card..
Tho i searched to find if there were any other topic mentioning my card i wasnt able to get some results....
The list below is the details of my computer and as i saw cards above 9500 radeon should be able to play DOA....
Am i doing anything wrong ??

Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.40GHz
ATI Technologies Inc.   RADEON 9700 PRO   CATALYST 09.11
SoundMAX Digital Audio
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
DirectX 9.0c (Mar2009) or later

Sincerely ,

Broooom

[Gorath Alpha]

You didn't read that anywhere that Bioware or I wrote it. All of the Radeon 9n00 cards from 9600 (bottom end, should have carried a 9300 or 9400 number) through the 9800 XT on the top, had only the SM2 pixel shaders from Dx9.0"a", beneath DA: O's minimum.

[broooom]

First of all thanks for the quick reply.

So could you please tell me in details what should i do or what can i do to solve the problem or is my problem unable to be solved..?



Sincerely ,



Broooom

[Gorath Alpha]

Sorry, but you do not have a suitable PC to invest any upgrade time or money into. You need a new CPU, a new mainboard, 3 or 4 GBs of new RAM, a new power supply, and a new video card.  I am making the assumption that the case, keyboard, mouse, speakers, and the storage subsystems are acceptably modern, but the rest is just too old and far too obsolete. 

Windows XP Minimum Specifications
OS: Windows XP with SP3
CPU: Intel Core 2 Single (or equivalent) running at 1.6Ghz or greater
AMD 64 (or equivalent) running at 2.0Ghz or greater
RAM: 1 GB or more
Video: ATI Radeon X850 256MB or greater (either this is wrong)
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT 128MB or greater (or this one is wrong)
DVD ROM (Physical copy)
20 GB HD space

(Note: IMO, the two video cards above should be the Radeon X800 Pro, and the Geforce 6800 Vanilla, at least, maybe the 6800 GS)

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 07 janvier 2010 - 03:28 .

[broooom]

Thanks again Gorath for your time.



So problem solved....A new pc is the solution



Sincerely ,



Broooom

[broooom]

Thanks again Gorath for your time.

So the problem is solved....A new pc is the solution



Sincerely ,



Broooom

[broooom]

Oops i am sorry for the double post...

The Internet paused and i thought it didnt send the message.

[Jurriaan]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Sorry, but you do not have a suitable PC to invest any upgrade time or money into. You need a new CPU, a new mainboard, 3 or 4 GBs of new RAM, a new power supply, and a new video card.  I am making the assumption that the case, keyboard, mouse, speakers, and the storage subsystems are acceptably modern, but the rest is just too old and far too obsolete. 

Windows XP Minimum Specifications
OS: Windows XP with SP3
CPU: Intel Core 2 Single (or equivalent) running at 1.6Ghz or greater
AMD 64 (or equivalent) running at 2.0Ghz or greater
RAM: 1 GB or more
Video: ATI Radeon X850 256MB or greater (either this is wrong)
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT 128MB or greater (or this one is wrong)
DVD ROM (Physical copy)
20 GB HD space

(Note: IMO, the two video cards above should be the Radeon X800 Pro, and the Geforce 6800 Vanilla, at least, maybe the 6800 GS)

Gorath
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Couldn't help but wonder, but would the update of such a system cost more then let's say, a new PC? Surely the parts on their own should be enough cost pressing to make it worth over a complete new system. If that's not the case however, I'd love to hear so! Currently pending on wether to upgrade my current PC, which is simliar to the system mentioned by broom, or just go for a complete new one.

Thanks!

Modifié par Jurriaan, 08 janvier 2010 - 09:12 .

[Gorath Alpha]

The question is a very good one.  If you know what you are doing, and don't just take whatever looks best, or is offered at the lowest price, the ready-made PC was assembled with parts that cost the seller a fraction of what the private individual has to pay for the parts.  It's just a case of quantity discounting. 

However, a devoted game player ends up having preferences for particular grades and brands that have offered the best service in the past.  I want an Asus or a Gigabyte mainboard, not ECS (Elite), so I pay extra for them.  I prefer Hdds with large amounts of cache on board, and pay extra to get them.  I don't want some brand-specified part that is neither fish nor fowl like the new GT 220 video card is (not a gaming card, quite, yet more expensive than a gaming card -- but WHY?)

I would end up spending more for fewer parts (reusing the case, display, keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc.), but I would believe that the service I will get will be superior. 

Nevertheless, when asked to perform an upgrade that cost the minimum, by someone with a tight budget, I could set aside such preferences, and use that ECS mainboard if it offered the needed features at the usual low-ball price that ECS will sell at, since it's not exactly a "bad" brand, just a difficult company to get service from.  I could definitely make the upgrades more inexpensively than the cost of a new system.

A formerly active member of the forums kept a fairly active track of various parts, and often replied with an entire setup of upgrades all at once.  I haven't seen him here since he set up a "Group" of his own here on the new forums ("Flem1", if anyone wants to chime in with the name of the group). 

Added in an Edit here:  I looked him up, the search worked, and he is still saying he will assist with a DIY project here:

social.bioware.com/group/151/

There were twin series of "upgrade for $400" message threads ongoing at NWN2's forums by Kiwi, and at the TES4 forums by Brass, that were updated on a monthly basis, both of which assumed a Dell Dimension as the starting point, and therefore, an unsalvageable / unusable case. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 avril 2010 - 10:50 .

[CID-78]

I agree. almost all prebuilt system are junk, especially when it comes to the motherboard, the core component of the computer and they just put in some cheap crap that doesn't allow any upgrades or has low performance. the only time you can earn on buying a prebuilt system is if it's the first computer you get. ie you need everything from keyboard to monitor. otherwise buy a new set of pieces and reuse the old that is still acceptable condition.

[qimmiq]

About upgrading the PC. Here's what I did, for anyone that find it useful. I've bought my PC case (a-open 601 IIRC) in 2004 and is still quite good enough. I've bought it for an AMB K7 2200+ with a Radeon 9800 pro.
Then I upgraded that to core 2 duo 6550 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.8GHz + nvidia 8600GT with new mainboard + new 2GB memory + new power 450W supply (with a processor connector).
I got about 30fps at 1280x1024 with medium texture settings and no anti alias.It's playable but not so smooth when there's a lot of activity, dropping to 15 fps. At 1920x1200 it dropped to 5-12fps.
Because I own a 24" 1920x1200 screen I wanted to run the game at that resolution so another upgrade was in order. Radeon HD 4890 1GB. I've tried it using the 450W power supply. I smelled burned dust like 2KW electric heaters coming out of the powersupply and knew it was running into the limit of its ability and reset the PC within 20 mins. So I upgraded it to a 650W power supply and is running on max. settings 40-60fps, amazingly smooth. I've added a low noise case fan, that's all.
For a budget system I'd go no lower than a Nvidia 8600GT or equivalent. Rather a 9600gt or equivalent with a dual core proc. at least 2.4 GHz. And 2GB for XP seems enough, add 1GB for vista and Windows 7.
For those who use laptops and run into trouble with AMD/ATI video cards not being recognized try mobilitymodder drivers, which can convert normal drivers for desktops for laptops.
http://www.hardwareh...com/modtool.php
Hope this helps..
<edit: removed CRs>

Modifié par qimmiq, 09 janvier 2010 - 07:10 .

[Gorath Alpha]

That was very good, Gimmiq, so why not pop in and out of the Edit mode, saving the result, so that all the extra "apparent" CR's disappear from the text?

I've tested the member Search again, and it found Flem1's profile, from which I found his Group's Link (as referenced previously):

http://social.bioware.com/group/151/

[Feanaro100]

I've the precise same problem and I did an downgrade from 7 to windows server 2008[Can be used as workstation OS] and at first hand I could play the game flawless but today I suddenly got that error my specs are as following:



ATI Radeon HD 4890 videocard

AMD Phenom II X3 @ 3.2 Ghz

2048 Mb ram

Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P motherboard

WDC 500Gb harddrive



I hope you guys can find any fix soon, thanks in advance

[qimmiq]

@Feanaro100

I would put a backup back from before the problem happened. I wouldn't recommend using a server platform to run games. A server is optimized for running background processes efficiently. A Game is a foreground process. Anything the server does in the BG stutters the game most likely. And security updates may cause conflicts as a server is more stringent than a workstation OS.I doubt bioware has tested this game on 2008 server.

[warren camp]

i dont suppose any amount of updating for my ATI Radeon x600 hyper memory will be enough to run the game i will have to upgrade wont i

[Gorath Alpha]

Yes, you certainly will. Consider this: it's only a clone of the Radeon 9600, but with PCIe instead of AGP.  The 9600 was new in 2003, closing in on seven years ago.  You akready got every bit of value out of that thing some time before three years ago, and have been trailing along a mile behind the tech front ever since. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 25 janvier 2010 - 10:36 .

[warren camp]

Tyvm bro, i figured so but was just wanting to make sure, thanks agian

[Gorath Alpha]

The current equivalent of the X600 you had would be the HD 4350, which officially is too slow for formal tech support. An HD 4670 is still a value leader in its class, available at excellent prices. The HD 5670 is newer, but priced higher, and thus is not quite as good a value on a dollars per frames, or frames per dollar, whatever, comparison basis.

Good luck, and have fun with the game!

[Lpss_colonel_Vet]

I just bought the game and am trying to run it on a,

windows 7 ultimate / in compatibility mode xp sp3

with a

Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150

512KB L2 cache, 1.66GHz

1GB DDR2

160GB HD

if there is any way to run on this system let me know asap please even if i have to dual boot xp i will