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[SinerAthin]

Wouldn't it be hard to catch people doing this?

[jpraelster93]

SinerAthin wrote...

Wouldn't it be hard to catch people doing this?

Its pretty obvious if they abuse it lol 

[NuclearTech76]

It is an exploit. Kind of like exploiting the AI to pull fifty grabs over cover on the geth. It isn't cheating like the credit glitch, IMO.

[InfamousResult]

jpraelster93 wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Just give it up jpraelster, that guy is a known troll.

I know he is

Also, I'm just going to ask you both once very kindly not to personally attack me.

[jpraelster93]

InfamousResult wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Just give it up jpraelster, that guy is a known troll.

I know he is

Also, I'm just going to ask you both once very kindly not to personally attack me.

That is such a troll statement

[Nicla Karsavina]

Descy_ wrote...

Accident, its fine. Purposefully, its cheating.

Hmm... I partially agree and I don't want to seem a pettifogger, but the question is: would you sue and jail someone for an immoral but lawful behaviour? I'd say you first need to change the law to avoid abuses. That's what I thought when they started banning the credit glitchers. If the system allows it, a formal sanction for "immorality" is totally arbitrary, and the authority seems totally out of control.
But of course nobody is talking about banning for this kind of things.

Anyway yes, you should avoid it, if you want to play honestly. 

[SinerAthin]

jpraelster93 wrote...

Its pretty obvious if they abuse it lol 

Remember that Bioware won't be there to observe the match in person

I'm just curious how it's going to show up on logs and stuff.

[N7-RedFox]

It's a glitch but it's bioware's problem because it's bad programming which needs fixing. It's not really a beneficial glitch if it sends to the lz while enemies are spawning there.

[UKStory135]

Nocturnalfox wrote...

Descy_ wrote...


FBWGG however, IS cheating. (To anyone who would say it isn't)

Fixed :innocent:

Fixed replies are obnoxious.

[InfamousResult]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

 It's not really a beneficial glitch if it sends to the lz while enemies are spawning there.

Given the way that enemies spawn in the game, this is practically never the case. The LZ is either completely empty, or only has one or two enemies who just spawned there because the "certain number of enemies on the field at a time" mechanic spawned them when their counterparts died. Either way, it is very beneficial, because it gives you a second chance- AWAY from the cluster of enemies that killed you- without using your medigel.

[NuclearTech76]

UKStory135 wrote...

Nocturnalfox wrote...

Descy_ wrote...


FBWGG however, IS cheating. (To anyone who would say it isn't)

Fixed :innocent:

Fixed replies are obnoxious.

Pretty much this. Geth is the only enemy that I could see someone abusing the exploit on because they don't have instakills. We're basically saying that using this exploit is cheating when the whole map/enemy combo is exploiting the AI.

[jpraelster93]

InfamousResult wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

 It's not really a beneficial glitch if it sends to the lz while enemies are spawning there.

Given the way that enemies spawn in the game, this is practically never the case. The LZ is either completely empty, or only has one or two enemies who just spawned there because the "certain number of enemies on the field at a time" mechanic spawned them when their counterparts died. Either way, it is very beneficial, because it gives you a second chance- AWAY from the cluster of enemies that killed you- without using your medigel.

Know your a troll but it doesnt always take you back to the lz

[UKStory135]

It is a glitch, and exploiting intentionally is cheating, but considering that the glitch spot is in a super high traffic area, I find it hard to see how they can throw the banhammer down really hard. I've it happen to me on accident three times. That is usually the door that I am using to make my escape when stuff gets real

As far as the hidey-hole on hydra is concerned: I don't think that getting to the spot is cheating, as long as you can get back down without the waterfall exploit. Getting up there is more funny, than useful.

[AldarionnEB]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

InfamousResult wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

If they dont want people doing it they should fix it but I doubt that will happen

You and I have already had this EXACT discussion, at least two or three times. You already know why that's not a viable argument for not punishing players, so please don't repeat this crap all over again.

No I will repeat it because it needs to be said these issues have been known since launch yet they still arent fixed spend less time banning and more time fixing especially since for each patch they have to pay ms money so wouldnt it make more sense to make sure their patches do what they are supposed to 

Just give it up jpraelster, that guy is a known troll.

Says the known troll.

In any game, glitches will exist where it's possible to break the game, and any intentional use of those glitches is against the EULA. Nobody is saying they should ban people for accidentally using the glitch. If it happens, it happens, and I seriously doubt BioWare will ban anyone who only has a couple of occurences over the course of a large number of matches.

The argument that "they haven't fixed it so it's OK to use it" is also a logical falacy, jumping to a conclusion that makes absolutely no sense. Occam's Razor says that if they have not fixed it, they do not have the means to currently fix it. ME3 MP is a first for this company. BioWare has never done a mult-platform multiplayer game before, and the team may well be under staffed and unable to fix some of these issues with any alacrity because they either don't have the funding, or the experience of how to handle this type of situation.

In any event, intentional mis-use of the product is against the EULA, regardless of whether or not the means for misuse is ever corrected by the company putting out the product. You agree to abide by a set of rules when you sign in. Breaking those rules intentionally warrants punishment. If you feel the risk is worth the reward that's your choice, but if you take the risk, you have noone to blame but yourself when you are banned for it.

Modifié par AldarionnEB, 25 juin 2012 - 04:10 .

[Leisure Muffin]

Mr. Sandman wrote...

There is also one on Firebase Goddess when you go to the room with a elevator and the big med box. If you happen to die near the elevator you will fall of the map and go to the place you start. I had that happen twice but never actually tried doing it on purpose.

Cheater.  Banned.

[UKStory135]

dcal31 wrote...

Does anyone else wind up glitches under the landing zone, completely breaking the game, or does the game just particularly hate me?

That happened to me on Saturday.

Modifié par UKStory135, 25 juin 2012 - 04:09 .

[RGFrog]

It's been there since day one. It's not cheating unless you purposely stand there just for the free revive.

Just enjoy it and get back into position asap.

[InfamousResult]

jpraelster93 wrote...

Know your a troll

Okay, I'm just going to stop you. Again.

Explain to me how I'm a troll.

Explain to me how that post you called me out on was "a troll statement".

I honestly don't think you know what a troll is. I honestly believe you just saw that other guy say the word "troll", and you thought it was cool, and you just decided to start slapping it on every reply to me. Which is a personal attack, and is against the rules, so stop.

[JerZey CJ]

UKStory135 wrote...

Nocturnalfox wrote...

Descy_ wrote...


FBWGG however, IS cheating. (To anyone who would say it isn't)

Fixed :innocent:

Fixed replies are AWESOME!

Fixed that for ya:lol:

[Nickle]

It is not cheating. They can not ban you for this.

[InfamousResult]

Nickle wrote...

It is not cheating. They can not ban you for this.

Care to elaborate why you think this?

Modifié par InfamousResult, 25 juin 2012 - 04:31 .

[ToaOrka]

I've had it happen a few times, never on purpose though. I'd be running out of the room to get some ammo and a Prime's rail gun will curve around corners just to hit me and take me out after his stupid turret destroyed my shields, and then as soon as I get ready to gel, I get teleported to the LZ. And I was OK with that I guess.

[Derek Hollan]

Please refrain from accusations of trolling.  If you suspect actual trolling please inform a moderator of the offense.

As far as this discussion.  Thomas Abram will be reviewing it for our official stance.  FBW is under review.  That is all I can say at this time.

Cheers

[mikepaul]

Apparently, map repair is an expensive thing, with lots of data to download once it's fixed. That expense seems to be in the way of getting this removed, so we're all on the Honor System about abusing it.

Play randoms, use it very very sparingly, and when/if it's fixed forget about it...

[Beerfish]

Heh heh heh FBW...spawn point change!
Move the combines and the hoe to a new map Martha!