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Sdrol117 wrote...

GPR is garbage. Anybody defending it fails.

Try it on a geth engineer with weapon damage passive and  ROF/damage spec hunter mode.  It can certainly hold its own on gold.

[GodlessPaladin]

Disciple888 wrote...

Axialbloom wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

datako12 wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Until someone shows me a screencap of using the GPR to achieve a decent score (150K+) on Gold, I'm gonna continue to believe that only noobs use the weapon.

150k isnt a decent score, 150k means you need to find a team of people that can actually play

150k is what I get on average, regardless of who I play with.  If I have to carry scrubs, I usually hit 170k-200k.

Sure you do...

From today.

Reapers White

Reapers Hydra

Cerberus Giant

Cerberus Ghost


Note, these are not even exceptional games.  I was playing with randoms in PUGs, no coordination, no mic.

Heres a game from yesterday where I straight up carried.

Geth Dagger

The total squad score is so high that I'm inclined to think those scores aren't from yesterday, but instead from when there was an XP bonus.  I've never seen a game where everyone had 100k+ points... let alone in pubs... except on the bonus XP weekends. 

The only times I've gotten over 200k were on the bonus XP weekends and when soloing.  Even if the entire rest of my team gets <30k points I still only get like 180k tops.  How do you explain the total squad score being so high?

Just Cav wrote...

@Disciple888:

Based on samples
compiled from games shared on the Bioware Social Network, a typical Gold
game will yield a total squad score of approximately 275,000 points.
That all of your games are breaking 400,000 total points is an
indication for me that your objective waves are never being completed in
a punctual manner. It is easy, then, to break 150,000 every time if
you're taking advantage of nearly fifteen minutes of limitless enemy
spawning. Additionally, that you're consistently scoring so much higher
than other players is an indication for me that you're probably more
worried about killing those limitlessly spawning enemies than assisting
your team in completing the objective. Incidentally, the same samples
that I mentioned earlier typically included four players whose scores
were very close (certainly no 50,000-point leaders), and in almost no
instances encompassed in these samples did any player break 100,000
points.

Bottom line: your results are contaminated.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 12 mai 2012 - 06:57 .

[dunx125]

I've been keen to try a GE build built around buffing the GPR. Something like 6/6/6/5/3, using hunter mode to buff fire rate, power recharge and general damage. class passive for power damage/capacity and headshot bonus. Has anyone tried this out?

[GodlessPaladin]

dunx125 wrote...

I've been keen to try a GE build built around buffing the GPR. Something like 6/6/6/5/3, using hunter mode to buff fire rate, power recharge and general damage. class passive for power damage/capacity and headshot bonus. Has anyone tried this out?

I'm curious what build Lance Dagger was using.  He certainly wasn't doing badly with his GPR build (though it was using up a lot of equipment.  Not sure how much of a difference it'd be without all equip IIIs).  I also suspect that his setup would be more effective against Geth than Reapers.

[Disciple888]

Sdrol117 wrote...

GPR is garbage. Anybody defending it fails.

Hey Sdrol, you were in my game on Reaper/White!  Didn't know you were a forumgoer.

[haisho]

To clarify, all Geth can be headshot and the GPR is pretty much a precision weapon.

Assuming you take all appropriate mods to make up for its lacking performance against armor and use HM, you do roughly 71 damage per shot with a ridiculous fire rate.
It isn't too bad against standard troops, but its shortcomings shine like a sore buttock with the heavy abundance of armor on Gold. In this case though, it's the sheer amount of health you have to tear through that you're just better off picking off anything unarmored while that guy with the Carnifex X deals with it.

EDIT: Oh, and score can be a bit skewed in results. Having a high score doesn't accurately demonstrate the competence of the rest of your team, sadly.
Not calling anyone out. Just saying it's a bit flawed as a benchmark for performance.

Modifié par haisho, 12 mai 2012 - 07:45 .

[Disciple888]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Axialbloom wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

datako12 wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Until someone shows me a screencap of using the GPR to achieve a decent score (150K+) on Gold, I'm gonna continue to believe that only noobs use the weapon.

150k isnt a decent score, 150k means you need to find a team of people that can actually play

150k is what I get on average, regardless of who I play with.  If I have to carry scrubs, I usually hit 170k-200k.

Sure you do...

From today.

Reapers White

Reapers Hydra

Cerberus Giant

Cerberus Ghost


Note, these are not even exceptional games.  I was playing with randoms in PUGs, no coordination, no mic.

Heres a game from yesterday where I straight up carried.

Geth Dagger

The total squad score is so high that I'm inclined to think those scores aren't from yesterday, but instead from when there was an XP bonus.  I've never seen a game where everyone had 100k+ points... let alone in pubs... except on the bonus XP weekends. 

The only times I've gotten over 200k were on the bonus XP weekends and when soloing.  Even if the entire rest of my team gets <30k points I still only get like 180k tops.  How do you explain the total squad score being so high?

Just Cav wrote...

@Disciple888:

Based on samples
compiled from games shared on the Bioware Social Network, a typical Gold
game will yield a total squad score of approximately 275,000 points.
That all of your games are breaking 400,000 total points is an
indication for me that your objective waves are never being completed in
a punctual manner. It is easy, then, to break 150,000 every time if
you're taking advantage of nearly fifteen minutes of limitless enemy
spawning. Additionally, that you're consistently scoring so much higher
than other players is an indication for me that you're probably more
worried about killing those limitlessly spawning enemies than assisting
your team in completing the objective. Incidentally, the same samples
that I mentioned earlier typically included four players whose scores
were very close (certainly no 50,000-point leaders), and in almost no
instances encompassed in these samples did any player break 100,000
points.

Bottom line: your results are contaminated.

Random/Random gives you a 40% XP bonus.

[Ashen One]

The GPR is pretty damn effective on a Geth Engineer, or Geth Infiltrator if you take the weapon damage passives.

Obviously the weapon is meant to kill basic enemies and not so much the large armored enemies, and if you're complaining that the GPR sucks because you can't solo Reapers on gold with it, then I'll asssume you're a moron. Try it on Cerberus or Geth while using a GI specced for weapon damage. Aim for the head.

[Disciple888]

Ashen Earth wrote...

The GPR is pretty damn effective on a Geth Engineer, or Geth Infiltrator if you take the weapon damage passives.

Obviously the weapon is meant to kill basic enemies and not so much the large armored enemies, and if you're complaining that the GPR sucks because you can't solo Reapers on gold with it, then I'll asssume you're a moron. Try it on Cerberus or Geth while using a GI specced for weapon damage. Aim for the head.

"pretty damn effective" means it wouldn't be totally outclassed by other, better weapons.  Even if you spec it such and such, and get headshots, it doesn't take away from the fact that using a different weapon (Carnifex, Paladin, Mattock, Raptor, WIdow, Claymore) and scoring headshots would be MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.

[Ashen One]

Disciple888 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The GPR is pretty damn effective on a Geth Engineer, or Geth Infiltrator if you take the weapon damage passives.

Obviously the weapon is meant to kill basic enemies and not so much the large armored enemies, and if you're complaining that the GPR sucks because you can't solo Reapers on gold with it, then I'll asssume you're a moron. Try it on Cerberus or Geth while using a GI specced for weapon damage. Aim for the head.

"pretty damn effective" means it wouldn't be totally outclassed by other, better weapons.  Even if you spec it such and such, and get headshots, it doesn't take away from the fact that using a different weapon (Carnifex, Paladin, Mattock, Raptor, WIdow, Claymore) and scoring headshots would be MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.

The majority of those weapons are a great deal heavier.

I know versatility isn't really popular among the elitists, and bringing a second weapon is generally frowned upon by the people who say you only need one, (playing every class as if it's a power class, and stacking the odds in their own favor instead of playing random enemy random map) but it's light enough to make dual weilding practical. Try it on a GI, you might surprise yourself.

Probably not though, I'd assume you'd just QQ more about how ineffective the weapon is because you don't know how to use it.

[kinglewy00]

 Engineer + GPRs high firing rate + Disruptor Ammo = A lot of tech bursts.
OP, you should be the one being kicked.

Modifié par kinglewy00, 12 mai 2012 - 08:26 .

[Disciple888]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The GPR is pretty damn effective on a Geth Engineer, or Geth Infiltrator if you take the weapon damage passives.

Obviously the weapon is meant to kill basic enemies and not so much the large armored enemies, and if you're complaining that the GPR sucks because you can't solo Reapers on gold with it, then I'll asssume you're a moron. Try it on Cerberus or Geth while using a GI specced for weapon damage. Aim for the head.

"pretty damn effective" means it wouldn't be totally outclassed by other, better weapons.  Even if you spec it such and such, and get headshots, it doesn't take away from the fact that using a different weapon (Carnifex, Paladin, Mattock, Raptor, WIdow, Claymore) and scoring headshots would be MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.

The majority of those weapons are a great deal heavier.

I know versatility isn't really popular among the elitists, and bringing a second weapon is generally frowned upon by the people who say you only need one, (playing every class as if it's a power class, and stacking the odds in their own favor instead of playing random enemy random map) but it's light enough to make dual weilding practical. Try it on a GI, you might surprise yourself.

Probably not though, I'd assume you'd just QQ more about how ineffective the weapon is because you don't know how to use it.

1) I only play Random/Random on Gold.
2) You can achieve 200% CD with Carnifex.
3) Taking it on GI serves what purpose?  GPS, Claymore, Falcon, Scorpion (so I've heard) are all much better options.
4) I know how the GPR works, and your condescension is hilarious.  Having tried it, and seen others try it, it's obviously not effective.  I mean, can you use it?  Sure.  But you're gimping yourself.  And I don't trust pub players even when they're rocking a Black Widow, let alone a ****ty weapon that on full auto against a Banshee is like flinging ice cubes at the sun.

[Astartes Marine]

Ashen Earth wrote...
The majority of those weapons are a great deal heavier.

I know versatility isn't really popular among the elitists, and bringing a second weapon is generally frowned upon by the people who say you only need one, (playing every class as if it's a power class, and stacking the odds in their own favor instead of playing random enemy random map) but it's light enough to make dual weilding practical. Try it on a GI, you might surprise yourself.

Probably not though, I'd assume you'd just QQ more about how ineffective the weapon is because you don't know how to use it.

I agree here, my Geth Engineer has the Pulse Rifle with Barrel and Piercing along with the Plasma SMG with Extended Clip and the Heat Sink mods (seems to fire forever due to that) and I'm still light enough to be tossing turrets out and casting Overloads left and right all the while being able to lay down accurate and constant fire at the enemy.

Sure I may not always top the scoreboard but that is entirely irrelevant.  All that matters is victory and survival for the team.

[Disciple888]

Astartes Marine wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...
The majority of those weapons are a great deal heavier.

I know versatility isn't really popular among the elitists, and bringing a second weapon is generally frowned upon by the people who say you only need one, (playing every class as if it's a power class, and stacking the odds in their own favor instead of playing random enemy random map) but it's light enough to make dual weilding practical. Try it on a GI, you might surprise yourself.

Probably not though, I'd assume you'd just QQ more about how ineffective the weapon is because you don't know how to use it.

I agree here, my Geth Engineer has the Pulse Rifle with Barrel and Piercing along with the Plasma SMG with Extended Clip and the Heat Sink mods (seems to fire forever due to that) and I'm still light enough to be tossing turrets out and casting Overloads left and right all the while being able to lay down accurate and constant fire at the enemy.

Sure I may not always top the scoreboard but that is entirely irrelevant.  All that matters is victory and survival for the team.

You would help the team more by doing more damage.  You can still lay down turrets and spam Overload while rocking a better weapon.

[Astartes Marine]

Disciple888 wrote...
You would help the team more by doing more damage.  You can still lay down turrets and spam Overload while rocking a better weapon.

Better weapons such as?

[Disciple888]

Carnifex or Paladin for casters. Raptor and Mattock are okay too. That's if you care about cool-down. I've seen a Geth Engineer solo Geth/Hydra/Gold rocking a Black Widow/Revenant, 200% CD is overrated.

EDIT: Falcon if you're hosting.

EDIT 2: Hornet too.

Modifié par Disciple888, 12 mai 2012 - 08:40 .

[GodlessPaladin]

Disciple888 wrote...

Random/Random gives you a 40% XP bonus.

Ah, of course.  I always pick my maps (but change pretty much every time) to ensure I don't get the same thing or get FBW/Geth ever (and because I never promote).  I entirely forgot about the XP bonus.  My bad!  

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 12 mai 2012 - 08:44 .

[kinglewy00]

Sdrol117 wrote...

GPR is garbage. Anybody defending it fails.

Nice Geth Pulse Rifle 2, bro.
Your opinion is valid.

[yodasith]

Disciple888 wrote...

No. Nothing annoys me more than seeing two Geth Engineers in my lobby rocking Geth Pulse Rifles. I know I'm pretty much gonna hafta solo the game.

that were you are wrong. with the geth. they get a bonus for useing geth weapons. i have at lest one geth on both geth and its this weapon  Geth Pulse Rifles with armor persing mod Assault Rifle Piercing Mod and Assault Rifle Extended Barrel

i play my Geth Engineers as more a help role. my prime weapon is aas right now a N7 Valiant. and as backup weapon being  Geth Pulse Rifles. also try to stay close to the team i am with to help them

[Astartes Marine]

I do have a Pulse Rifle X and Plasma SMG X if that makes any difference.  To this day I'm not entirely sure what the levels affect other than max reserve ammo caps.

Disciple888 wrote...
Carnifex or Paladin for casters.

I do not have the Paladin, and I'm sick of always using the Carnifex on every bloody class.

Disciple888 wrote...
Raptor and Mattock are okay too.

Both heavier than the relatively light Geth weapons and not buffed by Geth specific skills.  Still good weapons, but I use them on other classes that are more aggressive and front line combat focused like the Soldier and Sentinel.

Disciple888 wrote...
I've seen a Geth Engineer solo Geth/Hydra/Gold rocking a Black
Widow/Revenant,

I assume they carried both at the same time?  I could never do that with an Engineer class, and I do find that the 200% is useful. 

Disciple888 wrote...
EDIT: Falcon if you're hosting.

I hated that thing the last time I tried it, heard it got buffed though so I might have to use it again.

Modifié par Astartes Marine, 12 mai 2012 - 08:46 .

[Ashen One]

Disciple888 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The GPR is pretty damn effective on a Geth Engineer, or Geth Infiltrator if you take the weapon damage passives.

Obviously the weapon is meant to kill basic enemies and not so much the large armored enemies, and if you're complaining that the GPR sucks because you can't solo Reapers on gold with it, then I'll asssume you're a moron. Try it on Cerberus or Geth while using a GI specced for weapon damage. Aim for the head.

"pretty damn effective" means it wouldn't be totally outclassed by other, better weapons.  Even if you spec it such and such, and get headshots, it doesn't take away from the fact that using a different weapon (Carnifex, Paladin, Mattock, Raptor, WIdow, Claymore) and scoring headshots would be MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.

The majority of those weapons are a great deal heavier.

I know versatility isn't really popular among the elitists, and bringing a second weapon is generally frowned upon by the people who say you only need one, (playing every class as if it's a power class, and stacking the odds in their own favor instead of playing random enemy random map) but it's light enough to make dual weilding practical. Try it on a GI, you might surprise yourself.

Probably not though, I'd assume you'd just QQ more about how ineffective the weapon is because you don't know how to use it.

1) I only play Random/Random on Gold.
2) You can achieve 200% CD with Carnifex.
3) Taking it on GI serves what purpose?  GPS, Claymore, Falcon, Scorpion (so I've heard) are all much better options.
4) I know how the GPR works, and your condescension is hilarious.  Having tried it, and seen others try it, it's obviously not effective.  I mean, can you use it?  Sure.  But you're gimping yourself.  And I don't trust pub players even when they're rocking a Black Widow, let alone a ****ty weapon that on full auto against a Banshee is like flinging ice cubes at the sun.

1) Good for you.
2) Lol, Carnifex. The Carnifex is better for armor, but crap against shields compared to the GPR with a GI. (when HM is specced for RoF and you can actually hit your target in the head)
3) Why carry only 1 weapon on an infiltrator? I can make good use of the GPR, and still have the weight capacity available to bring another weapon as well because it's lightweight. However, bringing a Falcon, or Scorpion ect. with my GPS X is just stupid. Different weapons are better suited to different situations.
4) You obviously don't know how the weapon works, seeing as you're talking about trying to kill Banshees with it. I can use it to great effect, and I wouldn't consider it "gimping myself". I get the sense that you haven't actually tried it out yourself, but are just repeating what other people say on this forum. If you're using an AR on armor that isn't a Revenant X with the AP and EB mods at rank V with Inferno, Warp, or AP ammo, you're probably retarded.

[Disciple888]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Random/Random gives you a 40% XP bonus.

Ah, of course.  I always pick my maps (but change pretty much every time) to ensure I don't get the same thing or get FBW/Geth ever (and because I never promote).  I entirely forgot about the XP bonus.  My bad!  

It's all good.  I'm pretty sure you're a way better player than me, lol.  It was just hilarious that people were getting so upset that I was claiming a score of 150K+, when I'm using an Infiltrator?  And then to claim a Geth Engineer with a GPR will outscore any class.....

[GodlessPaladin]

Disciple888 wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Random/Random gives you a 40% XP bonus.

Ah, of course.  I always pick my maps (but change pretty much every time) to ensure I don't get the same thing or get FBW/Geth ever (and because I never promote).  I entirely forgot about the XP bonus.  My bad!  

It's all good.  I'm pretty sure you're a way better player than me, lol.  It was just hilarious that people were getting so upset that I was claiming a score of 150K+, when I'm using an Infiltrator?  And then to claim a Geth Engineer with a GPR will outscore any class.....

Yeah...

[Disciple888]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The GPR is pretty damn effective on a Geth Engineer, or Geth Infiltrator if you take the weapon damage passives.

Obviously the weapon is meant to kill basic enemies and not so much the large armored enemies, and if you're complaining that the GPR sucks because you can't solo Reapers on gold with it, then I'll asssume you're a moron. Try it on Cerberus or Geth while using a GI specced for weapon damage. Aim for the head.

"pretty damn effective" means it wouldn't be totally outclassed by other, better weapons.  Even if you spec it such and such, and get headshots, it doesn't take away from the fact that using a different weapon (Carnifex, Paladin, Mattock, Raptor, WIdow, Claymore) and scoring headshots would be MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.

The majority of those weapons are a great deal heavier.

I know versatility isn't really popular among the elitists, and bringing a second weapon is generally frowned upon by the people who say you only need one, (playing every class as if it's a power class, and stacking the odds in their own favor instead of playing random enemy random map) but it's light enough to make dual weilding practical. Try it on a GI, you might surprise yourself.

Probably not though, I'd assume you'd just QQ more about how ineffective the weapon is because you don't know how to use it.

1) I only play Random/Random on Gold.
2) You can achieve 200% CD with Carnifex.
3) Taking it on GI serves what purpose?  GPS, Claymore, Falcon, Scorpion (so I've heard) are all much better options.
4) I know how the GPR works, and your condescension is hilarious.  Having tried it, and seen others try it, it's obviously not effective.  I mean, can you use it?  Sure.  But you're gimping yourself.  And I don't trust pub players even when they're rocking a Black Widow, let alone a ****ty weapon that on full auto against a Banshee is like flinging ice cubes at the sun.

1) Good for you.
2) Lol, Carnifex. The Carnifex is better for armor, but crap against shields compared to the GPR with a GI. (when HM is specced for RoF and you can actually hit your target in the head)
3) Why carry only 1 weapon on an infiltrator? I can make good use of the GPR, and still have the weight capacity available to bring another weapon as well because it's lightweight. However, bringing a Falcon, or Scorpion ect. with my GPS X is just stupid. Different weapons are better suited to different situations.
4) You obviously don't know how the weapon works, seeing as you're talking about trying to kill Banshees with it. I can use it to great effect, and I wouldn't consider it "gimping myself". I get the sense that you haven't actually tried it out yourself, but are just repeating what other people say on this forum. If you're using an AR on armor that isn't a Revenant X with the AP and EB mods at rank V with Inferno, Warp, or AP ammo, you're probably retarded.

1) damn bro, u mad?  You're the one who claimed "elitists" like me don't play Random/Random.
2) You have Overload if you're a Geth Engineer.  Why are you shooting at shields?  Are you RETAAARDEEED?  lmao
3) um, because I don't need a useless backup?  And D4rk50ul might disagree with your opinion on the Scorpion.
4) .... uh no, I was the one who started this topic, remember?  And it's from my personal experience playing Gold, if someone shows up with a GPR, I'mma hafta revive their ass 20 times before the match is done, and they're gonna kill nothing.  Don't worry, bro, if we ever play together, I'll carry you too .

[GodlessPaladin]

Ashen Earth wrote...
3) Why carry only 1 weapon on an infiltrator? I can make good use of the GPR, and still have the weight capacity available to bring another weapon as well because it's lightweight. However, bringing a Falcon, or Scorpion ect. with my GPS X is just stupid. Different weapons are better suited to different situations.

 Can't speak for Disciple, but I know I don't take an extra weapon because switching weapons takes FOREVER in this game and I never actually need a "backup weapon."  If I run out of ammo I use a clip pack.