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#326
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OSUfan12121 wrote...

I'd rate it around a 6. A great thing can be ruined by an ending ESPECIALLY the last game in a series. If it was the 2nd game and they pulled this it could be expanded on but the last game its set in stone and ruins the whole trilogy.

I don't agree but I respect your opinion.

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napushenko wrote...

Mettyx wrote...

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Most professional reviewers ignoring the large collection of partly jarring problems is showing the sad stat of the whole system.


Exactly, I was astonished at the unprofessionalism and incompetency of most "professional" reviews for ME3. It really opened my eyes.


You know, there is a reason why they are "proffesional" and you are not ;) 




Yup, and because they are paid to review, they are often lacking in integrity.  Because I am not paid to review a game, I can be honest about it without worry of reprisal.

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you can also be totally subjective about it without any worry of reprisal.
and what do you mean they lack in integrity ? only thing i can associate with it is that they are paid by gaming companys to write good reviews and thats a serious accusation to make

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I was on the metacritic site the other day and noticed ME3's score

Currently it stands at...

Critic score 89%
User score 3.9

While i was going to put that down to all the peeps mad at the ending apparently it has now had 3011 user reviews so dismissing the poor score as a vocal minority doesn't really work.

Still going to wait for the non-spyware version of ME3 myself and if it doesn't happen well i can live without playing a game that badly rated by so many people

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you didnt played it ?

well, if you actually go in with open mind and not overmagnify every little thing you dont like you may enjoy it as a gdmn fine good game it is. at least until the final 10 minutes or so which you may or may not like. i dont know.  

btw, when you read some of the 0 - 1 reviews thing would get litlle clearer, and if someone has that many problems with like game not having holstering weapons option or a framed picture of some character on his desk, i really dont know how many games that individual can enjoy.

3000 is still a minority compared to how many copies game sold. not counting pirate versions so, who knows how many people out there enjoy their game or are just not that passionate about it to state their opinions on the internet.
i loved many many games and i would never even visit the game`s forum but bioware brings that best in me :)

Modifié par napushenko, 15 mai 2012 - 10:19 .


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Diablo III has a whopping 3.3 metacritic score.

Take a look at their "current games" list sometime. Any large publisher title is nigh guaranteed to have a score 6.0 or less by users. If you're a small "indie" publisher, expect something 7.0 or higher.

Metacritic; just as biased (in their own way) as the "gaming journals" that fans say are oh so awful.

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napushenko wrote...

you didnt played it ?

well, if you actually go in with open mind and not overmagnify every little thing you dont like you may enjoy it as a gdmn fine good game it is. at least until the final 10 minutes or so which you may or may not like. i dont know.  

btw, when you read some of the 0 - 1 reviews thing would get litlle clearer, and if someone has that many problems with like game not having holstering weapons option or a framed picture of some character on his desk, i really dont know how many games that individual can enjoy.

3000 is still a minority compared to how many copies game sold. not counting pirate versions so, who knows how many people out there enjoy their game or are just not that passionate about it to state their opinions on the internet.
i loved many many games and i would never even visit the game`s forum but bioware brings that best in me :)

No i didnt ( was the part about origins being a deal breaker for me not clear enough?) and i also did not claim to play it, review it or offer any sort of opinion on the game itself, i merely stated what  the current figures on metacritic are since as i also said i was on the metacritic site for a different game and was curious and lo and behold theres a thread here about it so thought i'd indulge my curiousity.

I also think dismissing the views of over 3k people (thats the population of a small town here in the UK) is a bit silly and it also ignores that not all of those 3k reviews are negative, roughly about 800 were positive, 200 mixed and the rest negative to give that score of 3.9.

The only truely accurate survey would be if you surveyed every gamer purchased but sadly that isn't really possible as many would most likely not want to take part.

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The taste in games may vary, but the facts don't lie, the sales of ME 3 were below expectations, less than 1.5 mil worldwide. Personally I'm glad that the gamers community took a stand after the games like ME 2, DA2, SWTOR, that marked the downfall of Bioware and they started to get documented before throwing the money away.

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EternalPink wrote...

I was on the metacritic site the other day and noticed ME3's score

Currently it stands at...

Critic score 89%
User score 3.9

While i was going to put that down to all the peeps mad at the ending apparently it has now had 3011 user reviews so dismissing the poor score as a vocal minority doesn't really work.

Still going to wait for the non-spyware version of ME3 myself and if it doesn't happen well i can live without playing a game that badly rated by so many people

Origin is not a big dwal but the game really is not bad at all and yeah sure 3000 people is the majority of all ME 3 players.:innocent::whistle:

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GaDun wrote...

The taste in games may vary, but the facts don't lie, the sales of ME 3 were below expectations, less than 1.5 mil worldwide. Personally I'm glad that the gamers community took a stand after the games like ME 2, DA2, SWTOR, that marked the downfall of Bioware and they started to get documented before throwing the money away.


say what ? 

http://www.eurogamer...-mass-effect-2s 

Mass Effect 3 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360) - ~1.18 million excluding PC 
Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (PS3, Xbox 360) - 582,000

So, lets say that with PC its like 1.5 million compared to little more over half a million. So, mass effect 3 sold 3 times more then second most sold game and twice as more as mass effect 2, yeah, really below expectations 

Modifié par napushenko, 15 mai 2012 - 10:55 .


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Shepard108278 wrote...

EternalPink wrote...

I was on the metacritic site the other day and noticed ME3's score

Currently it stands at...

Critic score 89%
User score 3.9

While i was going to put that down to all the peeps mad at the ending apparently it has now had 3011 user reviews so dismissing the poor score as a vocal minority doesn't really work.

Still going to wait for the non-spyware version of ME3 myself and if it doesn't happen well i can live without playing a game that badly rated by so many people

Origin is not a big dwal but the game really is not bad at all and yeah sure 3000 people is the majority of all ME 3 players.:innocent::whistle:

As your putting words in my mouth fancy putting some money in my wallet at the same time.

I am curious how you managed to get "yeah sure 3000 people is the majority of all ME 3" from my post, pretty sure i just said don't dismiss 3k views, i didn't even mention/estimate or guess a possible size for the ME3 player base.

Perhaps maybe creating a post based on what someone has ACTUALLY said rather than the words you put in there mouth in the future might work better.

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OSUfan12121 wrote...

I'd rate it around a 6. A great thing can be ruined by an ending ESPECIALLY the last game in a series. If it was the 2nd game and they pulled this it could be expanded on but the last game its set in stone and ruins the whole trilogy.


+2

As for people downrating Diablo 3 because they can't instantly log on during launch...  Well that's stupid.  At least people who deflated their reviews on ME3 finished the game.

And honestly, what do people expect on launch day?  Every online game has issues on launch.  Heck, nearly every Steam launch has issues regardless of mode.  Its just the simple concept of flow.

Why would a company pay for server room they'd only be using for maybe a few hours in the game's entire lifetime?  Once those few hours pass, people can log on and off freely since the flow has been equalised.  Throwing a hissy fit is childish - you shouldn't really be up at midnight trying to play the game anyway, especially midweek!  Reminds me so much of the people complaining they didn't instantly get in on the Mists of Pandaria beta...  Patience is a virtue!

I mean I haven't even got my copy of D3 that I ordered yet, since all the websites oversold on preorders.  That irritated me, but I'm not giving them grief over it.  Just being patient.

EternalPink wrote...
As your putting words in my mouth fancy putting some money in my wallet at the same time.


Don't feed him.  Same sort of person who thinks 60,000 people aren't a big enough number to care about either.

Modifié par Andromidius, 16 mai 2012 - 12:07 .


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Andromidius wrote...

As for people downrating Diablo 3 because they can't instantly log on during launch...  Well that's stupid.  At least people who deflated their reviews on ME3 finished the game.



Even more stupid is finishing the game you just rated 0 and 1. Id throw that sht from the airlock and never look back instead spending 30-40 hours playing it and then whining on forums and ratebomb them all over their place. 

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Metacritic gave diabloe 3 a 3.9 out of 10.

Guess they just hate new release games that aren't 100% god sent devine than.

Modifié par xsdob, 16 mai 2012 - 12:50 .


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This metacritic thing is a joke. Perhaps it had good intentions at one time but the sheer idiocy over rankings for the last two BioWare games is so telling that it can't be taken serioulsy even in the slightest.

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xsdob wrote...

Metacritic gave diabloe 3 a 3.9 out of 10.

Guess they just hate new release games that aren't 100% god sent devine than.


Or maybe it's because a ridiculous number of people paid $60 for a game,  got home,  and can't play it?  Not even single player. 

But I guess that doesn't matter does it.  It's not what's in the box,  it's not even if you can play it,  it's all about the name on the box right?  If the name is big enough then everyone should just rate it 10/10 no matter what.

A year ago I really wondered how the industry ended up in the state it's in.  I recently have determined I can definitively say why now.


This metacritic thing is a joke. Perhaps it had good intentions at one time but the sheer idiocy over rankings for the last two BioWare games is so telling that it can't be taken serioulsy even in the slightest.


It couldn't possibly be the sheer idiocy that went into the last two "Bioware" games could it?  Who could possibly have a complaint about the Awesome button,  reused maps,  teleporting waves of enemies,  stories that make no sense,  outright lies made by employees,  invisible linear corridors,  using the same plot point 4 times in a game,  pointless leveling systems,  autodialogue,  etc,  etc.

It's a "Bioware" game,  it's automatically perfect.

Both DA2 and ME3 would've been panned by reviewers 15 years ago when they reviewed games and not advertisers. 

Bioware is in quotes because Bioware is just a brand name Electronic Arts puts on their non-sports divisions.  Those last two games you were refering to are made by Electronic Arts.

Modifié par Gatt9, 16 mai 2012 - 02:09 .


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Oh, so gatt, what your saying is that fifteen years ago, there was nO advertising to consider, no bias or conflict of interest involved, only consoderation being the responsibility to the readership and games were never ever given false status due to outside influence. I'm calling bs right there.

You are operating under the assumption that things have changed so drastically in that amount of time. I encourage you to look up one man, Randolph Hurst. This has been going on forever. Media bias is not new. It would also appear that we now have a new term as well, user bias. Metacritic is loaded with. I have said before and I say again, take all critique witha grain of salt. The term buyer beware is not new as well.

Now, since you have come here to vent your biases, let me share with you mine. I know what a bad game is brother. ET. That's a bad game. Koolaid man. Bad game. I remember playing Oregon trail dude. All roads lead to dysentery. This game is so far and away from that it's absurd. However, metacritc begs to differ, and that's why it can't be taken seriously.

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EternalPink wrote...

I was on the metacritic site the other day and noticed ME3's score

Currently it stands at...

Critic score 89%
User score 3.9

While i was going to put that down to all the peeps mad at the ending apparently it has now had 3011 user reviews so dismissing the poor score as a vocal minority doesn't really work.

3011 users might not be a lot of people.

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As a stand-alone game, a solid 7.5...maybe 8. In retrospect and relative to the whole series - 5.5, maybe a weak 6.

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I'm saying the bigger the title the higher the anticipation and expectations and the greater every single flaw will seem when it comes out.

It happens a lot, with movies and with games.

This is what my post says, all that it deserves a perfect score thing is all you gatt.

Thanks for speculating.

Modifié par xsdob, 16 mai 2012 - 05:43 .


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I rated ME3 3/10 and i will do it again. Because i never had depression caused by a game. I don't really care what it may or may not deserve by this point.

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xsdob wrote...

Metacritic gave diabloe 3 a 3.9 out of 10.

Guess they just hate new release games that aren't 100% god sent devine than.



lol gamers are pathetic

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ME3 was enjoyable up until the last five minutes, then in the second playthrough you realize how the plot progression is basically set in stone (i.e all your decisions in the past only amount to cameos). This not only killed the replayability of ME3, but the previous two games as well. That's something special in itself.

And man, Diablo 3. The single player part of the game has all game logic handled by the server (so if you have a spotty connection, you get lag in single player or outright disconnected). You're essentially playing a MMO, without the MM part. Little wonder people are hating on it so much.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Metacritic gave diabloe 3 a 3.9 out of 10.

Guess they just hate new release games that aren't 100% god sent devine than.



lol gamers are pathetic

Well, it's cause most ppl can't play the damn game, cause Blizz decided that some levels/characters/AI will be stored on their servers. And that requires more bandwidth.

And, well, cause gamers are trolling - if you actually read their reviews, you would have known how Max Payne 3 ends. Seriously.

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napushenko wrote...

GaDun wrote...

The taste in games may vary, but the facts don't lie, the sales of ME 3 were below expectations, less than 1.5 mil worldwide. Personally I'm glad that the gamers community took a stand after the games like ME 2, DA2, SWTOR, that marked the downfall of Bioware and they started to get documented before throwing the money away.


say what ? 

http://www.eurogamer...-mass-effect-2s 

Mass Effect 3 (PC, PS3, Xbox 360) - ~1.18 million excluding PC 
Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (PS3, Xbox 360) - 582,000

So, lets say that with PC its like 1.5 million compared to little more over half a million. So, mass effect 3 sold 3 times more then second most sold game and twice as more as mass effect 2, yeah, really below expectations 


Again talking without any knowledge, yer a true troll, glad to meet you (kidding, I'm not) read the post on IGN about this matter, selling 900 k copies in first month double as ME 2 means nothing, as someone comment on IGN, they spent a fortune on advertising.